Ladies Do you Consider men wolf whistling at you Sexual Harassment?

"Certainly not something to joke about." I may be wrong Shalimar, but I think Debby knows I wasn't meaning anything but a teasing remark about her disguise.
 

Shalimar said:
That must have been an uncomfortable experience for you, Debby. Certainly not something to joke about.
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At the time I was probably shocked, horrified, embarrassed, whatever. But in looking back, I don't think I was actually too surprised because the pet shop was located in an area of the city that had a number of scuzzy bars. My first job at a tiny little ''hole in the wall precious gems wholesaler was a couple blocks away which is why I was there at all. So maybe I mumbled something about 'being off shift' and then walked/ran back to the little hole in the wall and felt safe again with little Mrs. Hess alongside as we counted the jewels.

I guess at one time it was a better end of downtown because it did have a beautiful old theatre there where the gentry probably went for an evenings entertainment, but by that time it had gone down hill a lot.


I can remember getting flashed a couple times and groped in the stairwell at the office I worked in as well . But you know, when you're in your teens back in that time, most girls didn't say much about incidents like that. You kept your mouth shut and just tried to avoid nasty places or people.
 
I hear you, Debby. Those were the days when bad things did not happen to good girls. :mad: Yeah right! Not certain that much has changed. In Canuckistan, aka Harperville, the stats for rape conviction are appalling.
 
Debby said:
At the time I was probably shocked, horrified, embarrassed, whatever. But in looking back, I don't think I was actually too surprised because the pet shop was located in an area of the city that had a number of scuzzy bars. My first job at a tiny little ''hole in the wall precious gems wholesaler was a couple blocks away which is why I was there at all. So maybe I mumbled something about 'being off shift' and then walked/ran back to the little hole in the wall and felt safe again with little Mrs. Hess alongside as we counted the jewels.

I guess at one time it was a better end of downtown because it did have a beautiful old theatre there where the gentry probably went for an evenings entertainment, but by that time it had gone down hill a lot.


I can remember getting flashed a couple times and groped in the stairwell at the office I worked in as well . But you know, when you're in your teens back in that time, most girls didn't say much about incidents like that. You kept your mouth shut and just tried to avoid nasty places or people.
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Sad but so true, events such as that were quite frequent back in the day for me as a kid and in my teens, I remember some of those incidents very vividly. One of the homes I lived in the police had to be called on a few occasions as there would be several men performing in sync at separate ends of the roof across the way from our residence facing our windows. This roof thing happened during my youth when I was between ages 8-10. I've been groped many times including in my teens and later adult years including being followed harassed beyond belief and still do get harassed once and a while now while in my 50's. Some might think it's cute, it's not.
 
April, I am so sorry you had the experiences you did. My own non existent childhood was riddled with abuse. This stuff is traumatic, and follows you throughout your life. No wonder so many women have trust issues. When will we be taken seriously?
 
AprilT said:
Sad but so true, events such as that were quite frequent back in the day for me as a kid and in my teens, I remember some of those incidents very vividly. One of the homes I lived in the police had to be called on a few occasions as would be several men performing in sync at separate ends of the roof across the way from our residence facing our windows. I was this roof thing happened in my youth when I was between ages 8-10. I've been grouped many times including in my teens and later adult years including being followed harassed beyond belief and still do get harassed once and a while now while in my 50's. Some might think it's cute, it's not.
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Hey April, as you mention being harassed even when you were/are in your fifties, I was reminded of when I had to walk past a group of road repair guys who were having a smoke break on the Walmart sidewalk just last year. Gosh I'm 60, haven't had any notice that way in years (I live in a very rural area and don't get out much except for weekly grocery shopping) and yet, walking past that group, I still felt uncomfortable. It stays with you doesn't it?
 
Hey, Debby, I ain't no spring chicken either. When I first moved into the Tombs five years ago, I was accosted in the elevator by some old man who was shopping for a new sex buddy, since it appeared his girlfriend was tired of him. He groped my butt as I left the elevator. I slapped him, and threatened to rreport him to the condo board. Ewww. Not a nice welcome to a senior's building! His excuse was, I should not 'advertise' by wearing tight jeans. Really??? I tore him a new one, as my son would say.
 
Debbie, yes, it truly does follow you, to this day, I'm not fond of passing work sites or groups of men in general. I don't harbor bad feelings toward men as a group, I just don't like that feeling I get when I am about to pass a gathered group and it reflects to back to those experiences, for me, no where near the same today, but still happens once and a while.

Take a look, happens all over


very disturbing this man is touching and rubbing himself against women in a store, stuttle, but you can see it some of the women feel somethings not quite right, but, aren't sure they just move.

 
How gross and tacky Shalimar! and good for you standing up to Mr. McCreepy! Good thing there are good guys out there for us to marry otherwise two options: The human 'family unit' would have disappeared as women decided they didn't want to bother or the world would be populated by super-nasties :D. But thank goodness there are enough nice guys to outweigh the others! We love you nice guys!

As to your videos April, also gross and tacky! Dreadful behaviour from men who have no respect or self control! Yech.
 
April, Debby, I still experience discomfort around men I don't know. It is not logical, but these types of learned responses are almost impossible to completely overcome, even after my exposure to many kind and trusting men.
 
Thanks for your support, Debby. At the time I was shocked, I thought I was too old for that stuff. Apparently perversion knows no age limit, who knew. He avoids me now, which is awesome. Fortunately, men such as he are in the minority, I am blessed with colleagues and friends of the male gender who truly light up my life. Big mushy teddy bears, each and everyone! Thanks, guys, for the joy you bring to this woman's life!
 
This 20 year old student has got the right attitude in my opinion.

An Oxford University student has written a heartfelt letter to a man who sexually assaulted her.
Ione Wells has spoken out about the attack in April in an open letter, published in the university's newspaper, the Cherwell.
She wrote that she would not let the attack change her and would come out of it stronger.
Ione also used the letter to argue that attacks are never the victim's fault, with the hashtag #NotGuilty.
The 20-year-old was attacked as she walked home from Chalk Farm London Underground station early on Saturday 11 April.

More here.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/artic...---oxford-university-student-published-letter
 
Bee, that is the most powerful statement I have ever heard. It brought me to tears. I am going to take a copy of it to my local women's sexual assault counseling office, as well as to where my colleagues work. Bless you for sharing this with us. I am overwhelmed. Blessed be the strength of women, blessed be our humanity in spite of everything. :love_heart:
 
Shalimar said:
Bee, that is the most powerful statement I have ever heard. It brought me to tears. I am going to take a copy of it to my local women's sexual assault counseling office, as well as to where my colleagues work. Bless you for sharing this with us. I am overwhelmed. Blessed be the strength of women, blessed be our humanity in spite of everything. :love_heart:
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Shalimar, if it helps then I am pleased for you.
 
How did we get from "Wolf Whistles" to rape??? IMO.... a wolf whistle... is not harrassment... it's a compliment.. Dirty words... filthy inuendos... touching... pawing.. groping... and at the end of the spectum rape... NOT a compliment.
 
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