Las Vegas votes to make it a crime to sleep on city sidewalks

The solution is simple: The rents are too damn high. People weren't homeless in the fifties, sixties. It was very rare to be without a place to live. That doesn't mean the place was a "good" place, or desirable in any way except for having a roof over one's head. Even the "bums" had a single room, maybe the width of a bed, but they usually did have that option.

In 1980 I met a woman at work who had been to PRChina several times, which was uncommon for the late 1970's. She told me foreigners were not allowed in train/subway stations at night. She took the risk with several others to find out why. The stations were mobbed with the homeless. I believe it was Peking (Beijing). That's how the socialist paradise hid their homeless. It was an embarrassment, a disgrace. I had never heard of such a thing. And now, look at us. It's a reprehensible shame. It is a sign of a third world country.
I was thinking the same thing, we never saw homeless people in the 50’s or 60’s who are they, where are they coming from? I know some of them are Veterans n that is our biggest shame of all!🙁
 
There are about 3.5 million homeless folks in the US. We can solve this without any new government spending at any level. Just pass ordinances that every senior citizen with a spare bedroom take into their own home 1 homeless person per unused bedroom.

I no longer have a home, so I'm off the hook. How about you? Are you doing your part?
 

Homelessness has a variety of reasons why it’s rampant in many cities. BTW, Seattle also has a very huge problem with homeless people on the streets. Money is probably the number 1 issue with fixing the problem. A lot of our major cities are either broke or a lack of money is being set aside to deal with this problem.

A lot of homeless people wouldn’t move into a house even if the opportunity was offered. Some don’t want to work, some are mentally ill, some are unemployable due to various reasons, some just want their freedom, some can’t find suitable employment, a number of reasons come to mind. I don’t see it going away anytime soon.

Houston has done a good job narrowing the number of homeless on the streets, but like someone has stated, they have done it over time. Evidently, someone on their council made it a point to have X amount of dollars set aside each year. But, even so, the problem will still exist. These people seem to move around. They come north in the summer and go south in the winter.

I don’t have the answer. I wish that I did. But, I wish that I could cure cancer too.
 
I think that homeless people started showing up following the Great Depression. Many people just never recovered. Of course most were men and were called Hobos. The traveled by train. Today, with the many natural disasters from repeated flooding and forest fires, a great many people find themselves without a home, and without a hope. Then again the population has risen some as well. Sort of a perfect storm for homelessness.
 
Why was this post deleted ? By the poster, or the admins?........frustrating when all ya read is ....deleted.
Sorry after I posted it I realize it could be scrutinized as political, so I deleted it and inserted deleted. I have had some that did meet the rules and regulations and they just vanish...poof.
 
I think that homeless people started showing up following the Great Depression. Many people just never recovered. Of course most were men and were called Hobos. The traveled by train. Today, with the many natural disasters from repeated flooding and forest fires, a great many people find themselves without a home, and without a hope. Then again the population has risen some as well. Sort of a perfect storm for homelessness.
And, if that wasn’t enough, we have also seen a rise in drug addicts and mental defectives out there. I don’t mean to sound insensitive or callous, but the perception is reality in this instance. How do you deal with a homeless person when you are talking about helping them and they are asking for some money to buy a bottle?
 
And, if that wasn’t enough, we have also seen a rise in drug addicts and mental defectives out there. I don’t mean to sound insensitive or callous, but the perception is reality in this instance. How do you deal with a homeless person when you are talking about helping them and they are asking for some money to buy a bottle?
Yeah, and the "cracks" keep widening instead of closing, as support from family, church, and government dry up, only to be replaced with "lip-service". Not many want to "feel your pain".
 
Not sure what all Houston is doing, but the restraints of helping folks need to be relaxed.
I so wanted to start a little soup kitchen thing this winter, even something at the far reaches of the wally world parking lot, near where a rather sizeable hobo camp on a vacant parcel has sprung up.
Just set up our four burner propane Camp Chef off our pickup, and ladle out my wife's glorious soup.
Turns out I'd be arrested.
Looks like another year doing the once a week volunteer thing.
It just seems so feeble.
I may sit in on some city counsels, see what's brewing in the homeless subject
 
a little dirty laundry;

My daughter has been homeless for years now.
She made a valiant stab at recovery
It didn't take
We brought her down here this summer to get her dried out
She couldn't do it
Wanted to be where her 'friends' are
I have no answer to this mind set
Very frustrating
 
So then, answering the original post/title,
people who are homeless would be supposed to find more hidden, even more dangerous, places to sleep?

And they couldn't report if they are assaulted, or get medical help for it, or they'd be arrested?
And this would be so that the wealthy tourists would not "see" them?

:oops::cry:
 
Not sure what all Houston is doing, but the restraints of helping folks need to be relaxed.
I so wanted to start a little soup kitchen thing this winter, even something at the far reaches of the wally world parking lot, near where a rather sizeable hobo camp on a vacant parcel has sprung up.
Just set up our four burner propane Camp Chef off our pickup, and ladle out my wife's glorious soup.
Turns out I'd be arrested.
Looks like another year doing the once a week volunteer thing.
It just seems so feeble.
I may sit in on some city counsels, see what's brewing in the homeless subject
Gary,

We have similar restrictions where I live too.

One local group has started cruising around without actually setting up and handing out sack lunches with a couple of sandwiches, a piece of fruit, cookies, etc... They solicit the grocery donations from local markets that have food reaching the best by date. They also hand out small items like socks, aspirin, plastic painting tarps, etc... Up until recently they even had an MD that would ride along providing basic medical advice and treatment to those that needed it.

Don't give up on your idea you will find a niche that works for you.
 
a little dirty laundry;

My daughter has been homeless for years now.
She made a valiant stab at recovery
It didn't take
We brought her down here this summer to get her dried out
She couldn't do it
Wanted to be where her 'friends' are
I have no answer to this mind set
Very frustrating
Gary.......I know of a few excellent rehabs here in the East that may be able to help her. I have seen the results of their work and it has been mostly positive. The first rule to becoming sober is that the addict, (or in this case, the alcoholic), must want to be clean and have a very strong desire to stay dry. Otherwise, it's a useless cause. If she ever heads this way and has decided that enough is enough, let me know and I will do what I can to point her in the right direction. All that I ask is that she is ready to make the commitment because, (I am sure that you know), initially, there is a lot of suffering getting clean or dry.

I've learned from speaking with rehab doctors and addictionologists that the main reason recovery usually doesn't work is because the addict or alcoholic wasn't ready. They think they are, until they get into the program and then find out what they have to go though is not for them.
 
The first rule to becoming sober is that the addict, (or in this case, the alcoholic), must want to be clean and have a very strong desire to stay dry. Otherwise, it's a useless cause.
She's a meth addict.
Heroin is also involved
Had an extensive phone conversation with her last night.
There's a massive program in Portland Oregon called 'Central City'.
Our hope is she enters that program.

let me know and I will do what I can to point her in the right direction. All that I ask is that she is ready to make the commitment
That's the reason we had her down here, 300 miles from her 'friends'
I'll surely tell her about this.
Thank you, 9

Yes, she has to get low enough to know she has to have help...in order to stay alive
 
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It's a sad state of affairs when we are more outraged that people live/camp/sleep in the streets than we are that they are homeless to begin with. No, I don't have the answer. Just saying...

The reason that is so...is because they the bums, effect a larger amount of people than themselves and in a negative way. When we the masses , cannot walk down a sidewalk without moving in & out between tents, or avoid the sidewalk all together ........that's a problem. We paid for the sidewalk, and walking to work from the parking garage when the entire area smells like human waste....that's a problem.....jus'sayin'

And BTW......I don't have the answer either.
 
I agree that it's a problem, but who's to say that the homeless never paid taxes? Taxes that should be helping them now.


It's been at least 35 years since I've been anywhere in Europe, but back then there were public toilets everydamnwhere in Germany. Why aren't we doing this?

Lots of questions. No answers ☹
 
She's a meth addict.
Heroin is also involved
Had an extensive phone conversation with her last night.
There's a massive program in Portland Oregon called 'Central City'.
Our hope is she enters that program.


That's the reason we had her down here, 300 miles from her 'friends'
I'll surely tell her about this.
Thank you, 9

Yes, she has to get low enough to know she has to have help...in order to stay alive


Talked to a friend just the other day about his son, my godson. He did the drug thing for a few years, actually tells his dad that Scientology ! got him off those. Now he is involved with the Hare-Krishna , and trying to make his name known, find success, writing music in Nashville . What makes a kid/now a man [41] do that?

My point is, what makes anyone do what they do? Drugs, alcohol, cults , religion,....virtually anything just outside the norm.......or way outside the norm ? Sad to say I doubt we will ever know, and perhaps sadder yet, we will likely never be able to correct.

Only they know, and only they can turn themselves around.
 
I agree that it's a problem, but who's to say that the homeless never paid taxes? Taxes that should be helping them now.


It's been at least 35 years since I've been anywhere in Europe, but back then there were public toilets everydamnwhere in Germany. Why aren't we doing this?

Lots of questions. No answers ☹


But the current tax payers do not know that they did, and assume that they did not.....therefore in many a persons mind they deserve no help from taxes .
 
Ewwww. It's been a good many years since I had to be in the city for work. At that time, the homeless weren't there. I wonder whatever became of the people who lived in Hoovervilles or the tent cities of the Reagan years?
 
Yes there are homeless and housing affordability issues. But there is also a lack of enforcing vagrancy laws that should've been used the minute the first camper in a public place showed up. By leaving a living on the streets as a viable option too many will chose it and/or always consider it an option even with a home and job spending like there's no tomorrow.

Still have to deal with the chronic homeless like addicts, mentally ill etc. But there are too many variables in play now too including places like Disney California when 15-20 dollar an hour employees have to live out of their car. These companies need to be paying a livable wage and the employees should be demanding it ie unions. Not a total union guy but they definitely have their place. But that's just a slice of the issue and that's the problem.
 
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She's a meth addict.
Heroin is also involved
Had an extensive phone conversation with her last night.
There's a massive program in Portland Oregon called 'Central City'.
Our hope is she enters that program.


That's the reason we had her down here, 300 miles from her 'friends'
I'll surely tell her about this.
Thank you, 9

Yes, she has to get low enough to know she has to have help...in order to stay alive
Meth and Heroin users have the worst time of trying to kick it. It just keeps pulling the user back in. I have seen both types of addicts while going through withdrawal and if you ever want to see shear agony, all that you need to do is to watch about 15 minutes of a person withdrawing from 1 of these 2 drugs. Fentanyl is the other one that owns the addict.

It's a shame, it really is. And, nothing more is upsetting than when someone says, "It was their choice, so they have to own it." Well, that may be true, but that type of mentality won't solve or fix any problem, especially an addiction. I have seen addicts addicted to anything from drugs, to sex, to movies, to TV, to gaming, to food and on and on. A person can literally become addicted to almost anything. I feel for them, even though I really don't know what they are going through, but I try to help with what I know or have learned.

There is a boatload of crime that happens while people are either drunk or on drugs. If we could stop just 10% of this epidemic, this country would be a whole lot better off. Not to mention, the amount of money they would have in their pocket. I truly believe in what Pastor Billy Graham said on TV years ago. It was something like, "It's up to each of us to leave the world in a better place than the way we found it." Pretty profound, I think.
 


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