Late night musings about same sex marriage.

many churches around the world struggle still with same sex marriages - some will and some won't perform them? - the bible says this? - but modern society says something different?
 
Rich said:
smiley said:
It must be hormonal surely ? - isn't there a tab that will fix it?

Pepper - clearly smiley's comments fall into the troll category. I suspect he/she is just looking to start some sort of conflict. I won't comment on his drivel again, it would be a waste of time.
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So, you too ? Just because his opinion/comment doesn't fit your narrative [and / or mirror the opinion of others here] , you consider it drivel, and choose to ignore him ? You accuse him of desiring a conflict ?

That says more about you than it does about him.
 

rgp said:
So, you too ? Just because his opinion/comment doesn't fit your narrative [and / or mirror the opinion of others here] , you consider it drivel, and choose to ignore him ? You accuse him of desiring a conflict ?

That says more about you than it does about him.
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Your perception of my comment holds little significance to me. Are you new to the world of online forums? They're teeming with trolls eager to stir up trouble.
 
Rich said:
Your perception of my comment holds little significance to me. Are you new to the world of online forums? They're teeming with trolls eager to stir up trouble.
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Well ....... back atcha regarding comments . And no, not new @ anything.

Once again, can we not have a different opinion, without being labeled ?
 
I recognize there has been conflict in this thread, but I'm having a little trouble trying to understand why. I've considered going back to the beginning to trace the source of the acrimony, but I don't care that much. At this time, I think it's easier to accept that people may just be programmed to disagree on issues ranging from serious to trivial.
 
Ah but most humans just cannot resist expressing a personal opinion of other peoples lives be they religious or sexual or based on race. Many of us seem to feel superior to others for some strange reason? I have a European friend who speaks fluent Thai has lived there for many years on and off and even more so now feels he is in a greater position to criticize them as a nation of "others"?
 
It's unfortunate that humans are forced to live in communities, and so we are very much aware of what everyone else is doing. I know a homosexual couple who live perfectly ordinary lives and the local people have just accepted them as what they are. A lot of the hostility towards 'gay' people arises because they make a big issue of being gay. People get sick of being constantly reminded that someone is gay.
 
Lavinia said:
A lot of the hostility towards 'gay' people arises because they make a big issue of being gay. People get sick of being constantly reminded that someone is gay.
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I think it's a two edged sword. I believe it turns some people off, but much less these days. On the other hand, the gay parades and attention getting was part of the early 70s battle for equality. I don't know how effective the "in your face" strategy actually was, but the acceptance of gay sexuality was maybe the fastest societal attitude change I have ever witnessed in my life time. Those guys actually did it in less than 50 years, even in spite of strong political resistance, they have gone from blatant repression to near equality.

But like you, I don't need to see too much openly affectionate behavior in public from any couple, straight or gay. Sometimes the phrase, "Get a room," is appropriate under any circumstances. But I'm not going to make too big a fuss over how others want to be seen. That's mostly their business.
 
Pepper said:
Disgusting remark. Not calling you disgusting, but disgusting remark. BTW, are you also @Joey and one other guy whose name I forgot? The three of you sound exactly the same, all the time. J'accuse
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I was just going to bring this up on another thread... the third account is "davey" and yes, same person. It's very confusing. Especially with two of the accounts both posting to the same thread this morning. @Pepper
 
I wonder why "getting all the benefits" is more important than legally showing, publicly, one's love and commitment to another through marriage.
 
I wonder what effect this has on children. In the case of Elton John and his partner, they used a surrogate to provide them with two children. Other same sex couples have adopted children. It's too early to say yet, but I wonder how the children feel. Hopefully, the 'parents' have done the sensible thing and made sure that they have plenty of attention from a close relative of the opposite sex.
 
Twostep said:
Have you ever dealt with major purchases, health issues or retirement without having a ring on the finger so to say?
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I understand the dilemma. You can only "tighten your belt so much." There is help for those in a tight bind, (I've had to except "government cheese, etc." (I receive medicaid) & was grateful for it.
 
I think two persons who choose to bind themselves in a legal manner should be allowed to do so. Regardless of their sex or sexual orientation. I resent the implication that “marriage” needs to happen in a church…and that those churches get to exercise their subjective opinions as to who gets to participate. I am a heterosexual female who gets along and relates much better to my female friends. Someday maybe I will marry one of them.
 
My thought is that "marriage" is between a man and woman. It is "Civil Union" between two of the same gender. Neither has to be performed in a church.
 
your thoughts are not what constitutes legal marriage.

Marriage certainly does not need t o be in a church here in Australia to be a legal marriage - and i n fact majority are not now - but marriage has same legal responsibilities and benifits (topic of thread) whether between gay or straight people.
There is no "civil union"
Although of course people can live together in de facto relationships or non sexual relationships, without being legally married.
 
January said:
your thoughts are not what constitutes legal marriage.

Marriage certainly does not need t o be in a church here in Australia to be a legal marriage - and i n fact majority are not now - but marriage has same legal responsibilities and benifits (topic of thread) whether between gay or straight people.
There is no "civil union"
Although of course people can live together in de facto relationships or non sexual relationships, without being legally married.
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D'ya fink that the rate of divorces and separations have increased from say the 15Century or 16 ;17 etc etc - cos that statement up there just makes it easy for everyone so inclined to jump in and out of bed at anytime they please with ongoing co-cospirators? who pays for the kids heh - the social workers??
 
not sure what point you are making quoting my post to say that Joey or how my statement about marriages being in places other than churches and people being able to live together without being married makes it any easier or harder for people to jump i n and out of bed anytime they please 😵‍💫 😵‍💫
 

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