Let's take another swipe at the Multiverse concept

smiley said:
in walked a "being" surround in this beam/oval of light - no words were spoken and it moved down the hallway and disappeared out through the locked sunhouse at the back? - they were both teetotallers? - mulitverse visitor wot??
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Nah, that guy is always around. He just likes giving people a thrill.
 

Any and all of the above ideas are possible, maybe even probable. The sad thing is, we primitive beings who are alive now will never know the answer. But some day, if our "intelligent life" on this planet doesn't blow ourselves up first, the answer will be known.

One concept I have read about is that the entire universe evolved from that tiny speck with zero dimensions called a singularity. It exploded, and particles went zooming off in all directions, probably at the speed of light. (Or faster?) Some day, the reverse will happen. Gravity will kick in, and everything in the universe will collapse back into another tiny speck. Black holes are probably involved somehow.

And it will happen again and again. It's been happening forever. (The concepts of beginning and end have no meaning here. It could be like a mobius strip.)
 
Sunny said:
Any and all of the above ideas are possible, maybe even probable. The sad thing is, we primitive beings who are alive now will never know the answer. But some day, if our "intelligent life" on this planet doesn't blow ourselves up first, the answer will be known.

One concept I have read about is that the entire universe evolved from that tiny speck with zero dimensions called a singularity. It exploded, and particles went zooming off in all directions, probably at the speed of light. (Or faster?) Some day, the reverse will happen. Gravity will kick in, and everything in the universe will collapse back into another tiny speck. Black holes are probably involved somehow.

And it will happen again and again. It's been happening forever. (The concepts of beginning and end have no meaning here. It could be like a mobius strip.)
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I too believe that the universe had no beginning, and will have no end. It's an unimaginable concept. Actually they've proven in recent times that astral bodies are actually picking up speed, in contrast to what was believed years ago. So it's not about to collapse upon itself. Maybe it'll just completely fly apart...😃
 
Sunny said:
Any and all of the above ideas are possible, maybe even probable. The sad thing is, we primitive beings who are alive now will never know the answer. But some day, if our "intelligent life" on this planet doesn't blow ourselves up first, the answer will be known.

One concept I have read about is that the entire universe evolved from that tiny speck with zero dimensions called a singularity. It exploded, and particles went zooming off in all directions, probably at the speed of light. (Or faster?) Some day, the reverse will happen. Gravity will kick in, and everything in the universe will collapse back into another tiny speck. Black holes are probably involved somehow.

And it will happen again and again. It's been happening forever. (The concepts of beginning and end have no meaning here. It could be like a mobius strip.)
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It's not a given that the universe will collapse, which would mean that time will flow in the opposite direction (backwards). Right now scientists think that dark energy is winning the battle over gravity and that the universe expansion rate is accelerating.
 
I remember a time in an absence of information, when I thought the universe was static in size. Then many years ago, I learned that it was expanding. I've never heard a theory that it was collapsing. I think there was a time, when people thought it may possibly run out of steam and collapse. Somehow that increasing speed at which it is expanding, means it won't collapse. But I don't understand why that means that it won't collapse. But I don't think any of this has anything to do with a multiverse.
 
No, I meant Quack-pots!
All this conjecture about forever multiverses is basically just meaningless B.S.

A Quack-pot is a screwball by / of any color or other physical definition!
Man is not able to exist for long decades in space and lite/no gravity.
Full of greed for profiting on US Taxpayers, this is all that's happening.
Werner Von Braun designed a Space station with gravity. Why it never happens?
Selfish greed and total B.S.
 
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papa tiger said:
No, I meant Quack-pots!
All this conjecture about forever multiverses is basically just meaningless B.S.
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Yeah, but it's not unusual around here. Some of the best of the 200 or so episodes that make up the Stargate SG1 Sci Fi series are about parallel universes, multiverses, out of phase dimensions, and fringe theoretical science, some now disproved, but popular 20 years ago. And time travel? BS, but still fascinating fun, with the potential of dealing with so much "what if" complexity, starting with the grandfather paradox.
 
See I know the differences between Quarks & Quacks. Still the forever thing, may be FuzzyBalls.
You know forever has to be something. You just can't represent Forever as nothing.
Without something, say (fuzzyballs) ya got nothing, thus forever can't exist as something that's happening.

So Fuzzyballs propel the expansion of forever, make up everything that means forever, forever.
If Forever is a creation and it likes to create, then forever will go on expanding, creating forever.

A group of scientists can claim they understands what they see but are they really seeing forever or just an illusion?
What the Fuzzyballs want? Ya stare into a Telescope and view the ancient past, nothing like what's it like today.
So what is actually at the current time, Fuzzyballs that's what / why.

Why does the Big Bang that, they believe started it all, a great show of hands, its fuzzyball exaltation of something happening
that they caused, because they could / can!

Remember "The Cat that Walks thru Walls" in Heinlein. He didn't understand near light speed and got smoked.
 
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A group of scientists can claim they understands what they see but are they really seeing forever or just an illusion?
What the Fuzzyballs want? Ya stare into a Telescope and view the ancient past, nothing like what's it like today.
So what is actually at the current time, Fuzzyballs that's what / why.

Why does the Big Bang that, they believe started it all, a great show of hands, its fuzzyball exaltation of something happening
that they caused, because they could / can!

Remember "The Cat that Walks thru Walls" in Heinlein. He didn't understand near light speed and got smoked.
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I'm not sure, but you may take your version of theoretical physics more seriously than most physicists take theirs. ;) Still walking through a solid wall has got to be some trip. It's a fascinating idea. Come on now; You know you want it too.
 
Risk is a fool's choice when you understand the rules and probabilities.

Thinking that when the thing gets fast enough and big enough another one pops
because there is so much space for it to happen again. Then the truck again goes
whammo and stuff blasts out from that pop. The Fuzzyballs continue their trips.
The reason is because of the stretching of space demands something fill in the
emptiness of eternal expansionism. You see expansion is the rule #1.

I believe the probability is continuous expansionism demands constant bangs throughout Eternity.
Why would Lord Fuzzyballs want just one chance to get it right when it's just a form of entertainment?
This just happens to be our physical time, and we get to view its physical passage of time for a blink in forever.

Things really get interesting if the Oceans are getting darker due to added depth and more water bubbling.
 
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We are here due to certain facts and processes., which over time led to life emerging on earth. And we realized that given the vastness of the universe, those same facts and processes could enable life to develop in other parts of the universe. I don't see why the facts and processes that led to our universe, couldn't create another universe.
 
Sort of Fuzzy buddy but we / our tiny lil universe is just a small part of so much vastness and the reason for expansion.
Where can anyone call Eternal, Forever, Immortal, never ending or beginning have to be a human decision, it's sort of dumb
I think to actually be a believer of a beginning. . Thats Human arrogance to think that way. The world is flat; the universe is flat:
More stupidity! 1 universe, so diabolical!

Ahh, "Forever is everywhere." Most likely Everywhere doesn't know it all either, it's just happening constantly everywhere.

That's my beliefs. Forever is forever. Creativity is its number 2 rule. Number 1 Rule is Expansion for Creativity.
"Forever is Forever," (the Name of the Place.)
Sure, most likely there is more than one "Forever is Forever" too.

MSN

In just a few Decades our Brainiac's will figure out how to Nuke our Fuzzy Buddies and "Q" whammo it all goes all over again.
 
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A groundbreaking cosmological theory is taking the scientific community by storm, suggesting that the universe did not originate from a single Big Bang. Instead, this bold idea proposes that the cosmos has evolved through multiple, rapid bursts of energy known as temporal singularities. In a new paper published in Classical and Quantum Gravity, Dr. Richard Lieu, a physics professor at The University of Alabama in Huntsville, introduces a fresh perspective on the universe’s expansion. According to Lieu, the cosmos is not the product of a one-time Big Bang. Rather, it has grown through a series of ultra-fast, step-like bursts that release energy and matter across the entire universe.

Lieu’s model is a departure from conventional thinking. It challenges the widely accepted idea that dark matterand dark energy are responsible for the universe’s mysterious behaviors. Instead, Lieu proposes that these temporal singularities—unseen and untouchable by current observation techniques—are the driving force behind cosmic evolution. One of the most exciting aspects of Lieu’s model is that it offers an explanation for the universe’s expansion without relying on dark matter or dark energy—two elusive concepts that have long been used to explain phenomena like cosmic acceleration. According to the physics professor, temporal singularities create what’s known as negative pressure, a type of energy density that causes the universe to expand at an accelerating rate.

In this model, the singularities fill the universe with energy and matter, yet because these bursts happen at such incredible speeds, they are invisible to us. The theory suggests that the reason dark matter and dark energy have never been observed is that they exist only during these bursts. Once the singularity fades, these forces vanish, leaving behind the galaxies and structures we see today. Lieu’s theory also dismisses the idea of exotic concepts like “negative mass” or “negative density,” which have been proposed in other cosmological models. Instead, he focuses on the idea that these rapid, recurring bursts of energy could provide all the necessary components for the universe’s expansion.
 
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A groundbreaking cosmological theory is taking the scientific community by storm, suggesting that the universe did not originate from a single Big Bang. Instead, this bold idea proposes that the cosmos has evolved through multiple, rapid bursts of energy known as temporal singularities.
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This is interesting. Most theoretical physics is.
 
What I especially like given the James Web Telescope discoveries, about these new cosmological hypotheses are how it smacks so many rigid scientists in the face that were so certain the last decades about the Big Bang Theory. Has much to do with the way science is taught in universities. Same kind of rigid attitudes with scientists on panspermia and brain consciousness.

Like Einstein, I've always leaned towards an infinite 3-dimensional space steady state universe. Our local universe may be the result of some kind of Big Bang explosion, but IMO it just isn't the only one and the ideas that there was no time or anything before that or beyond its edge, is likely incorrect. The Big Bang itself may be due to some unknown physical phenomenon causing an explosion once black holes becomes ultra large. In other words, they may have a limit.
 

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