Loneliness, does this apply to you?

Phil, probably has a lot to do with how big the city has gotten and how many big companies have relocated their headquarters here. It's low- to medium-COLA compared to other major cities, lots of very good universities (Tech and Emory among them) and transpo in and out of the area is good.

I think you're right. Wilkes Barre, the little place I'm currently in (PA) has a lot of the same attitude - they resent outsiders coming in but they like the dollars they bring. It's an uneasy alliance at best.

As for me? I'm a native Yooper; not many of us leave, and when we do, not many are successful at staying away.

Is that UP?
 

Thanks CeeCee , I can't help being ignorant.
i've been there, driven all the way up the Michigan peninsula!
 
I'm not thinking about the future, too much to digest. I do know if I'm left alone I won't be living closer to my daughter, too much of the me, me, me and the grandkids are the same.
 
I will remain here, as long as I can, on my own; I am too selfish now to contemplate anything else.
but, at times, I do find it hard......
 
LOL! A Yooper is a native of the upper peninsula of Michigan. UP. Yooper. We call people who are natives of the lower peninsula "trolls" because they live "under" the bridge. That would be the bridge at the Straits of Mackinaw that connects the upper and lower peninsulas.

Yoopers are rare; the population of the UP is probably less than 300,000.
 
I drove up and down once, to pick a teenager up from a summer camp. I must admit, there wasn't a lot of life to see; scenery quite nice though!
 
If I could afford the price of real estate and for the fact of having to leave my family, I'd move to California in a minute, I can think of several small beautiful coastal towns that I'd love to live in.

I pay nearly $100 per vehicle to register and Texas has been in droughts in recent years too, so thats not the problem...I envy anyone that lives there.
 
LOL...I love that though...it's like friends talking in a group ...sometimes the subject changes or goes off track!
I've always thought the exact same thing. It is more natural to be all over the place.

About California, years ago I was hitching down the coast with a friend, 1971 I think was the year, as soon as we got to California the "vibe" changed. We had one creepy ride into the Redwoods and when we got dropped off, we stood there on the shoulder of the road for awhile, still heading South. We just looked at each other and crossed the road and started heading back up North.
 
California isn't for me either, and I tried it in two different places - LA and San Francisco. Just couldn't find the right vibes.

As we love to say, You missed it. Once, oh so long long ago it was a wonderful golden land. Now it is Kalifornica all the way. I only stay because I'm stubborn and live in the past. As REM sang so well, "I remember California . . ." Actually, like that in more places around the world than not as change is the only constant and not always for the better.
 
As we love to say, You missed it. Once, oh so long long ago it was a wonderful golden land. Now it is Kalifornica all the way. I only stay because I'm stubborn and live in the past. As REM sang so well, "I remember California . . ." Actually, like that in more places around the world than not as change is the only constant and not always for the better.

Yeah, see, I was out there in the late '70's, and to be fair to LA I was living in South El Monte. In fact, I suspect I was the only non-Hispanic there, but I never had any problems and I was renting a nice house with a gorgeous pool for something like $250/mn.

'Frisco was nice but very expensive - sort of like NYC with hills.

Maybe it's because I'm mainly an Easterner, and I spent so much time in NYC, but I just didn't get the same sort of good feelings in California that I got in NY. The funny thing is, now I wouldn't want to live in NY if you paid me.
 


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