Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, Fatally Shot by Cop in Columbus
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I think medical help for this problem is way overdue and ignored completely.
Not that it's any of my business, the young lady being a minor, but I wonder why she was in foster care? It's not easy to put one's child in foster care for common behavioral problems. Tried to find out why, but couldn't. I guess because it's a Family Court matter, and they don't give information. Want to find out only because I'm curious, not because of any blame thing.
Remy
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I wondered this also. I'm not putting the mother down for this, there could be reasons.
I stayed with two families when I was young because my mother couldn't care for me at the time after leaving my bio-dad and she became ill. These two events had no ill effect on me. The one family treated me like their own and I remember fun trips to the beach. These were people my mother knew, it wasn't a foster care situation.
This was also not a old school or school yard 'knife fight' like some are trying to spin. The cop was too far away for a taser and it may not have worked through the clothes and too far away to tackle this woman. That knife would have been in the woman in pink already.
There have been protest marches in Columbus since this happened and still today (Monday). The chants are about police killing "our babies" with Ma'Khia's name chanted along with others. A reporter on our local WOSU station said that some people admitted they came out to protest if Chauvin had been found not-guilty and stayed to protest Ma'Khia's death.
From what I've read, this all happened at the foster home where she was living. It was a party for the foster mother and the two other teen girls, the one in pink and the one on the ground, were previously fostered in that home. They had come back for the party and criticized Ma'Khia for not keeping the home tidier to help her foster mother. Then the fight.
From what I've read, this all happened at the foster home where she was living. It was a party for the foster mother and the two other teen girls, the one in pink and the one on the ground, were previously fostered in that home. They had come back for the party and criticized Ma'Khia for not keeping the home tidier to help her foster mother. Then the fight.
AnnieA
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I read that the foster mother said that too and that she was at work at the time. Both Ma'Khia's aunt and her younger sister (who also lived in this foster home) said the girls had called their biological father and grandmother and that they were both present when the police arrived. The only man I saw in the footage was the guy in the gray hoodie. If that's her father (and have seen it posted several places that it is), then his behavior goes a long way towards showing why the girls were in foster care.
It's not as simple as "Medical Help." A woman has to want medical help.
I've dated a couple of women who were absolute psychos & I wasn't aware of any menstrual connection so I just broke it off.
One woman I was seeing mentioned it. I spent 4 hours in a bookstore trying to find information that would help. I bought 4 books written by female doctors who also had severe problems with it. She didn't open ONE of them.
Doesn't it though? When I saw that grown man swing his foot all the way back to brutally kick a girl on the ground, I thought, he was the type of father who taught his kids to, "Stick up for yourself!" "Fight back!" "Don't let her talk to you like that!"
When did we quit valuing the peacemakers and teaching kids to let things go and walk away? Girls in particular are being taught to be aggressive and praised for acting like the worst sort of man.
AnnieA
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Found the link below on a black forum. While they (and I) don't like the racist tone of the author, most on the forum believe it's the truth due to references and put a lot of blame on Ma'Khia's father, Myron Hammonds, to the point some think he should face charges related to Ma'Khia's death. She went into violent action when he arrived on the scene; prior to his arrival, she was standing with the group near the house. He could have subdued her, yet apparently incited her and joined the fight by kicking the young lady on the ground in the head.
There have been a lot of articles criticizing the foster system for failing Ma'Khia, but not many outlets addressing her parents. That's she's the child of a father with an extensive criminal history who had a warrant out for his arrest at the time of her death as well as a mother who in two different years was charged with domestic violence ...one incident also included child endangerment and intent to harm..... has more to do with her behavior that led to her death than the foster system or the reaction of the policeman who shot to prevent a knife in the throat of Ma'Khia's intended victim. Ma'Khia has several biological relatives besides her parents speaking to the media blaming this that and the other, yet they didn't take her in. Foster children who had lived in the home she was living in thought well enough of the foster mom that they were at the house to prepare for the foster mom's birthday. It seems to have been a good home based on that, but even in the best foster care, I don't see how foster parents can possibly be equipped to heal a child from her background.
First and foremost, Ma'Khia's parents failed her. Where the system failed her was failing to order (as far as I know) inpatient treatment to identify possible biochemical psychiatric issues as well as extensive talk therapy and group work to deal with the trauma of her family of origin. Even if all that is available for a child in her situation (I don't know if it is), she would've still have to have wanted to do the work to heal.
https://tbdailynews.com/makhia-brya...-video-and-has-extensive-criminal-background/
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There have been a lot of articles criticizing the foster system for failing Ma'Khia, but not many outlets addressing her parents. That's she's the child of a father with an extensive criminal history who had a warrant out for his arrest at the time of her death as well as a mother who in two different years was charged with domestic violence ...one incident also included child endangerment and intent to harm..... has more to do with her behavior that led to her death than the foster system or the reaction of the policeman who shot to prevent a knife in the throat of Ma'Khia's intended victim. Ma'Khia has several biological relatives besides her parents speaking to the media blaming this that and the other, yet they didn't take her in. Foster children who had lived in the home she was living in thought well enough of the foster mom that they were at the house to prepare for the foster mom's birthday. It seems to have been a good home based on that, but even in the best foster care, I don't see how foster parents can possibly be equipped to heal a child from her background.
First and foremost, Ma'Khia's parents failed her. Where the system failed her was failing to order (as far as I know) inpatient treatment to identify possible biochemical psychiatric issues as well as extensive talk therapy and group work to deal with the trauma of her family of origin. Even if all that is available for a child in her situation (I don't know if it is), she would've still have to have wanted to do the work to heal.
https://tbdailynews.com/makhia-brya...-video-and-has-extensive-criminal-background/
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Murrmurr
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All children in foster care have a multitude of free services available to them, especially teens, and especially mental health services for teens from dysfunctional biological families. The problem is that states and counties get the cheapest mental health services possible. None of the counselors have a PhD, and in a lot of counties the director of MH services doesn't have one either. They have a cookie-cutter system with one-size-fits-all MH treatments. Mental health services within the foster care system are deplorably ineffective.
As cheap as they are, they aren't worth the expense. The real costs come down the road when these kids live on welfare and/or start using drugs, begin a life of crime, and wind up in prison.
FastTrax
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Cops can't catch a break no matter what they do nowadays. She was already in the act of committing violent crimes with a weapon on victim number one then started committing more violent crimes against victim number two to which the police officer rightfully discharged his service weapon to neutralize the ongoing threat and save victim number two's life. So who's the individual at fault here? I mean seriously.
1. The attacker
2. Victim #1
3. Victim #2
4. The knife
5. The cop who saved at least two lives
6. Society at large
Thanks for reading.
1. The attacker
2. Victim #1
3. Victim #2
4. The knife
5. The cop who saved at least two lives
6. Society at large
Thanks for reading.
JimBob1952
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Annie, just so you know, tbdailynews isn't a Black news site. It's a far-right site put out by someone who calls himself "Turtleboy." That's not to say the information is incorrect, just to identify where it's coming from.
The mayor of Columbus has already said we are all responsible (at fault)
FastTrax
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Typical.
AnnieA
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I know. I explained that in the first sentence of my post (#35) ...."Found the link below on a black forum. While they (and I) don't like the racist tone of the author"....
No one on that forum liked the author's (Turtleboy) racist opinions, but the posters thought that his research and core information was good based on the sources he included.
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JimBob1952
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Ah, I understand. Thanks for the explanation. No one seems interested in the "back story" on any of these incidents, but without the back story the incidents wouldn't take place.
Butterfly
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I think this is hogwash. It is the same type of sexist hooey that was used historically to argue that women shouldn't get the vote, that they could not serve in combat or hold positions of responsibility.
Butterfly
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Which is just another way of saying that no one is responsible for anything.
FastTrax
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All the females in my family and there were many called the dreaded curse "Ladies Day". Of course being men we dreaded that Ladies Day was our curse since we endured being cursed at, beat up and run off for the better part of week. Well anyways that's the way I see it. So yes there could be something to it.