Man kills Family of 5 Neighbors in TX

Old Salt said:
Just what I was going to write: I am sick and tired of all the "thoughts and prayers." Finally do something about your incredibly insane gun laws! They were meant for militias and for far less effective rifles, not those incredible rapid fire weapons!
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That's 100% right on the nose. I have been reading those "our thoughts and prayers go out to the families" for years. Politicians and leaders in society love to say that statement. I think some of the US Presidents especially loved to say that line.

The trouble is that "talk is cheap." Thoughts and prayers aren't worth a bag of beans. If you are an elected leader of your country, state, province or where ever, DO SOMETHING! Stop the cheap talk. Everybody seems to be just interested in money and keeping the status quo but nobody seems to have the guts to actually make a difference. What a wonderful encouragement for crazies, loonies and natural born killers. It's open season on their fellow man/woman.

No one can control natural weather such as tornados or hurricanes but guns violence can be controlled. Yet the politicans sit around, give meaningless talks but yet are really a bunch of "do nothings" when it comes to stand up for gun control. Hang in there! More violence coming very soon as the weather warms up!
 
Packerjohn said:
That's 100% right on the nose. I have been reading those "our thoughts and prayers go out to the families" for years. Politicians and leaders in society love to say that statement. I think some of the US Presidents especially loved to say that line.

The trouble is that "talk is cheap." Thoughts and prayers aren't worth a bag of beans. If you are an elected leader of your country, state, province or where ever, DO SOMETHING! Stop the cheap talk. Everybody seems to be just interested in money and keeping the status quo but nobody seems to have the guts to actually make a difference. What a wonderful encouragement for crazies, loonies and natural born killers. It's open season on their fellow man/woman.

No one can control natural weather such as tornados or hurricanes but guns violence can be controlled. Yet the politicans sit around, give meaningless talks but yet are really a bunch of "do nothings" when it comes to stand up for gun control. Hang in there! More violence coming very soon as the weather warms up!
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Trouble is most legislators are so afraid of losing their jobs that they don't dare to make any law restricting weapons' possession to hunting rifles and maybe a revolver. I personally wouldn't even allow revolvers for ordinary citizens but at least those mass shootings would be greatly reduced!
 

CarolfromTX said:
Story says the shooter was firing his weapon in his front yard, and the neighbor came out to ask him to stop. Shooter, who was said to be drunk, retaliated by shooting the neighbor’s family. WHY the HELL didn’t they call the police instead?? If my neighbor is discharging a firearm, I’m calling the police. Period.
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From what I understood from one news report I saw is that the police were called on this man before regarding the same issue. Who knows, maybe they did nothing or maybe they took too long to respond the other times. Sometimes police take their sweet time responding to calls in certain neighborhoods. Regarding your comment about immigrants, how many of the mass shootings in the last year or so were done by illegal immigrants?
 
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Answer me this, my American friends: why do you believe that every citizen is entitled to purchase and keep a weapon (especially rapid fire assault weapons) when your second amendment clearly states:

The preamble to the Second Amendment mentions service in a militia as a reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

The end result of having ignored this is that most of you feel you have to buy a weapon because everyone else has one, which makes you vulnerable if you don't!
 
Old Salt said:
Answer me this, my American friends: why do you believe that every citizen is entitled to purchase and keep a weapon (especially rapid fire assault weapons) when your second amendment clearly states:

The preamble to the Second Amendment mentions service in a militia as a reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

The end result of having ignored this is that most of you feel you have to buy a weapon because everyone else has one, which makes you vulnerable if you don't!
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This American friend doesn't believe that. I'm sure there are many more who are with me on this, and many more who are not.
 
Old Salt said:
Answer me this, my American friends: why do you believe that every citizen is entitled to purchase and keep a weapon (especially rapid fire assault weapons) when your second amendment clearly states:

The preamble to the Second Amendment mentions service in a militia as a reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

The end result of having ignored this is that most of you feel you have to buy a weapon because everyone else has one, which makes you vulnerable if you don't!
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I have read somewhere (don't ask me for a reference) that the current interpretation of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment comes down to an argument about the significance of the punctuation (a comma). On such a flimsy matter rests the safety, and even the lives, of millions of people.
 
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Warrigal said:
I have read somewhere (don't ask me for a reference) that the current interpretation of the meaning of the 2nd Amendments comes down to an argument about the significance of the punctuation (a comma). On such a flimsy matter rests the safety, and even the lives, of millions of people.
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Yes, I've read that too! But any reasonable person would not squabble over the comma but clearly see the meaning behind that statement! Unless they are NRA members!** Sorry, a cheap shot!

edit: **or a Supreme Court Judge!
 
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seadoug said:
This American friend doesn't believe that. I'm sure there are many more who are with me on this, and many more who are not.
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Sorry, I am straying into areas these days that I usually avoid! I am cranky from lack of sleep and U.S. affairs are none of my business.

I was set off by a remark in one of the posts about illegal immigrants. It reminded me of the contempt people had for DPs in my day! Poor people who had to flee the Russians and didn't have passports to prove their worth as someone's citizens! Ended up in miserable camps for years, waiting for someone to take pity so that they could return to normal lives!
Do you see any similarities?

I am generally mild mannered but injustices and contempt of others do get my blood boiling!
 
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Warrigal said:
I have read somewhere (don't ask me for a reference) that the current interpretation of the meaning of the 2nd Amendments comes down to an argument about the significance of the punctuation (a comma). On such a flimsy matter rests the safety, and even the lives, of millions of people.
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That's was Scalia's "brilliant" mind at work. :ROFLMAO:
 
Old Salt said:
Answer me this, my American friends: why do you believe that every citizen is entitled to purchase and keep a weapon (especially rapid fire assault weapons) when your second amendment clearly states:

The preamble to the Second Amendment mentions service in a militia as a reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

The end result of having ignored this is that most of you feel you have to buy a weapon because everyone else has one, which makes you vulnerable if you don't!
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I think some of the more radical gun enthusiasts are the ones that make the news. I own no gun and never will. Many more like me in the U.S..

I think my stepfather has 3. A rifle, a shot gun and a low gage (if I'm using the right terminology) pistol. I don't know WTF I'm going to do with them when he dies. I wish he had gotten rid of them years ago. More burden for me. He hunted when younger and then stopped. He grew up very, very rural so guns would have been the norm I guess. The rifle is supposed to be very old but I haven't seen it in years.
 
Old Salt said:
Answer me this, my American friends: why do you believe that every citizen is entitled to purchase and keep a weapon (especially rapid fire assault weapons) when your second amendment clearly states:
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I'm an American who doesn't. And I agree with your interpretation as to what the Constitution says, however our Supreme Court does not, and they are who gets to decide...
Remy said:
I don't know WTF I'm going to do with them when he dies.
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You can do what I do with our guns. Keep them unloaded and under lock and key and don't keep ammunition in the house. Then slowly give them away to friends and family you know to be responsible gun owners. I'll probably be gun free by the time I die, that's the plan. I used to hunt, but don't any longer. So I have no need for a gun.
 
Alligatorob said:
I'm an American who doesn't. And I agree with your interpretation as to what the Constitution says, however our Supreme Court does not, and they are who gets to decide...

You can do what I do with our guns. Keep them unloaded and under lock and key and don't keep ammunition in the house. Then slowly give them away to friends and family you know to be responsible gun owners. I'll probably be gun free by the time I die, that's the plan. I used to hunt, but don't any longer. So I have no need for a gun.
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I would not know who to give them to. There is no family left in the rural area my stepfather grew up in. His niece and husband recently sold the hundreds of acre ranch that she inherited from her dad and moved into town. They were the last in the area. His nephew is in Oregon and is retired college teacher. I don't think he wants them. Since my mother isolated us from his side of the family, I don't know them.

I can look into the laws. If I took them to the local gun show, I know I'd probably get ripped off. The rifle was old when my stepfather was young and a family friend helped him buy it. But I don't know anything about it.

In the end, putting them someplace with no ammo is what I might end up doing.
 
Remy said:
I would not know who to give them to. There is no family left in the rural area my stepfather grew up in. His niece and husband recently sold the hundreds of acre ranch that she inherited from her dad and moved into town. They were the last in the area. His nephew is in Oregon and is retired college teacher. I don't think he wants them. Since my mother isolated us from his side of the family, I don't know them.

I can look into the laws. If I took them to the local gun show, I know I'd probably get ripped off. The rifle was old when my stepfather was young and a family friend helped him buy it. But I don't know anything about it.

In the end, putting them someplace with no ammo is what I might end up doing.
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I keep reading about Government places that will buy back your weapons! I am not sure if that's in Canada or the U.S.??? I wouldn't recommend leaving your weapons somewhere without ammo. A hood might just pick them up and buy the ammo. One more potential killer on the street!
 

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