Many Burglaries in Scotland not investigated

I'm sure that Scotland has some crime...just as virtually every nation on the planet. If there were a truly crime free nation, it would probably be called Utopia, or Heaven. Crime is usually determined by the environment people live in. Some of our inner cities are little more than zones of Anarchy, with gunfire going off at all hours of the day and night. On the flip side, where we live, the weekly police report usually consists of a couple of DUI's, a nuisance barking dog, and an occasional petty theft.

I might have you beat. I took a walk the other day,.....stopped and leaned against a tree to rest and a cop pulled up and asked if I was okay/needed a ride home.
 

I refuse to live behind bars or in a gated community.
Too often our fear makes us prisoners when we could live as free as a bird.
 

In many latin countries burglar bars on the windows are common. The practice has migrated to Miami.

Yep I lived for 10 years in a beautiful gated community in Spain..I still have my house there...but yes indeed my home has burglar bars on it, as do just about every house in the towns and cities of Spain and also Italy. I was shocked the first time I ever saw them, which was actually way back in the late 80's in Frankfurt Germany..At first i thought it wa a design , I didn't fully realise what they were to prevent burglary I was very surprised that burglary should be so rampant that they would be needed. however fast forward a few years and when we bought in Spain it was exactly the same scenario...so we had to get used to locking shutters and grills everytime we went out and in reverse everytime we came home..even if we were just popping out to go shopping after the attempted burglary as I explained in my previous post. That was a time consuming nuisance, and coming home on visits to the UK it was such a pleasure to drive home through the country lanes towards home from the airport and just see not a single house with shutters and grills..and just shining glass windows and doors.

I've seen them on American homes as well now..on TV...and recently I had to visit a northern English city in the course of my work and saw many many little houses in a poverty stricken area where they had burglar bars and steel outer doors to protect them ..that was very sad. .

Thankfully thus far there's no need for anyone to have them here where I live....and hopefully that will always remain the case..
 
There are a couple of MacMansions in the side street next to my house. You cannot walk up the path to knock on the front door because of a high fence and locked gate. As well as deterring any burglars they say Keep Out to the neighbours and present a very unfriendly image.

In comparison, I left home this morning to go to church and neglected to shut the front door. When I came home some 4 hours later having been out for lunch the house was undisturbed. Not the first time that has happened either.
 
I've seen them on American homes as well now..on TV...and recently I had to visit a northern English city in the course of my work and saw many many little houses in a poverty stricken area where they had burglar bars and steel outer doors to protect them ..that was very sad. .

Thankfully thus far there's no need for anyone to have them here where I live....and hopefully that will always remain the case..

In the U.S. you find them in a poverty stricken area where they had burglar bars and steel outer doors to protect them . Not too many found here in ruralTexas..
 
Do they export all that Scotch Whiskey, or drink it themselves? Crime is easily successfully accomplished if the victim has, er.....consumed a bit too much! :eek: imp

Obviously a lot of it is exported or you wouldn't be able to buy it in the US and just about every other country.
 
There are a couple of MacMansions in the side street next to my house. You cannot walk up the path to knock on the front door because of a high fence and locked gate. As well as deterring any burglars they say Keep Out to the neighbours and present a very unfriendly image.

In comparison, I left home this morning to go to church and neglected to shut the front door. When I came home some 4 hours later having been out for lunch the house was undisturbed. Not the first time that has happened either.


Yep that's the downside to owning an expensive property warrigal...you not only lock out the bad folks, you alienate potential new friends in your neighbourhood.. of course on a gated community you already have neighbours within...but sometimes that can cause it's own problems..

yep I'm fortunate that like you.I have on occasion..( just a few days ago in fact)..gone out and left all my windows open and the back door unlocked ..(not the front door)....and come home and found nothing amiss at all...but I wouldn't like to test it on a regular basis.. :eek::D
 
I'm sure that Scotland has some crime...just as virtually every nation on the planet. If there were a truly crime free nation, it would probably be called Utopia, or Heaven. Crime is usually determined by the environment people live in. Some of our inner cities are little more than zones of Anarchy, with gunfire going off at all hours of the day and night. On the flip side, where we live, the weekly police report usually consists of a couple of DUI's, a nuisance barking dog, and an occasional petty theft.

Of course every country has crime. No one ever implied or stated there was no crime in Scotland.

I stated that in MY local area nobody can remember a crime ever being committed here, and many of my neighbours have lived here 40+ years. We often forget to lock the doors and never lock the car in our driveway. Sometimes my husband leaves the keys in the car. Vandalism or fights by drunk kids in the town are the usual crimes. But we live ten miles from town.
 
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Of course every country has crime. No one ever implied or stated there was no crime in Scotland.

I stated that in MY local area nobody can remember a crime ever being committed here, and many of my neighbours have lived here 40+ years. We often forget to lock the doors and never lock the car in our driveway. Sometimes my husband leaves the keys in the car. Vandalism or fights by drunk kids in the town are the usual crimes. But we live ten miles from town.

1 ditto.gif..We live in a rural area (15-20 miles from large metro) and leave most everything unlocked. We also have watchful neighbors up and down our road.
 
View attachment 23268..We live in a rural area (15-20 miles from large metro) and leave most everything unlocked. We also have watchful neighbors up and down our road.

We are in a coastal community so my immediate area is houses with big gardens and either stone walls or tall hedges. Forests behind us, loch in front. There's not a huge space between houses. But it is easy to see what is going on in the road. It's dead quiet at night so any unusual noise would be heard.

We forgot to tell our next door neighbour we'd be gone for two months last winter and that our friend would be checking on the house, watering plant etc. When our friend came to check the neighbour came out and asked him who he was and what he was doing!
 
I remember hearing that after the Christmas Holiday do not leave the large boxes with what the gift contained (computer,TV, expensive items..etc) out in the open for the garbage collector.If you do, it lets the would be thief see what is inside your castle!!
 
I remember hearing that after the Christmas Holiday do not leave the large boxes with what the gift contained (computer,TV, expensive items..etc) out in the open for the garbage collector.If you do, it lets the would be thief see what is inside your castle!!

Yep I've always been wary about that sort of thing too Ken, I always ensure that cardboard boxes et al are flattened completely and address labels before ensuring they're completely in the wheelie bin..sometimes I take them myself to our local recycling site and get them industrially shredded.
 
I remember hearing that after the Christmas Holiday do not leave the large boxes with what the gift contained (computer,TV, expensive items..etc) out in the open for the garbage collector.If you do, it lets the would be thief see what is inside your castle!!

We are never home at xmas but we do always flatten boxes and put them in our recycle bin.
 
I've seen them on American homes as well now..on TV...and recently I had to visit a northern English city in the course of my work and saw many many little houses in a poverty stricken area where they had burglar bars and steel outer doors to protect them ..that was very sad. .

Thankfully thus far there's no need for anyone to have them here where I live....and hopefully that will always remain the case..

Yes, I have also noticed the bars on some homes and also some (smaller) stores – in areas with older homes that haven’t been taken care of. I’m in a suburb of a large city, and there are no bars on windows here nor have I seen them in any other suburb.

But many “efficient” burglars and burglary rings don’t target those areas where there are bars on windows. They go for the nice areas where residents obviously are successful to some degree. A local news station had a man on who used to lead a burglary ring, served time in prison, and is now a security consultant. It was really interesting to hear him tell why and how burglars break into certain homes.
 
I remember hearing that after the Christmas Holiday do not leave the large boxes with what the gift contained (computer,TV, expensive items..etc) out in the open for the garbage collector.If you do, it lets the would be thief see what is inside your castle!!

Yes, it's like shouting "Hey! Lookeeeee! We got a new TV, computer, etc. Come rob us."
 
We've had decorative bars on our windows and doors for years now. It give us peace of mind if we go out of town for a couple of weeks, and when I was home alone in the past at night, I could sleep securely with all my windows and doors open for air if I wanted to. There's a lot of people who have them where I live for various reasons.
 
Sadly and very unfortunately it's the same all over the UK :( you're just given a crime number and told to report it to your insurance company if no-one had been physically hurt when your home during the burglary. All the more reason to ensure that our homes have the best security possible..but even that won't prevent the most determined .

Unreported and uninvestigated crimes like burglary lead to other problems. By not investigating burglary it perpetuates other crimes and propels criminal organizations no matter how small. In the states burglaries are frequently committed by junkies looking for drug money. So their thefts help perpetuate the drug trade, culture and/or criminal element. Let alone feeding their personal habits illegally and on somebody else's dime.

Also many police districts and/or leadership under report things like theft to say they are doing a good job statistically. A reported stolen purse could be classified as a "missing" purse. Now petty thieves after thinking they got petty theft down pat they will escalate and expand their behavior into crimes that have far more consequences for their victims and themselves.

And 'insurance'-ick. The mere existence of insurance alone perpetuates inflation and opens the door to all sorts of fraud. The last time we tried to get theft insurance the agent wanted to photograph every room themselves for inventory seems harmless but it is an invasion of privacy and some of the hoops one must jump through for "insurance". I doubt if fraudulent claims were at a reasonable number insurance customers wouldn't have to go through all that.

The crime here is not investigating the crime.
 
Most of us in the US would be happy to trade our crime rates for yours in Scotland.

Yep, I'm sure you would. No gun crime either. ONE mass shooting in 1996. Gun laws tightened up and nothing has happened since. At least not in Scotland but there have been a couple in England.
 
Yep, I'm sure you would. No gun crime either. ONE mass shooting in 1996. Gun laws tightened up and nothing has happened since. At least not in Scotland but there have been a couple in England.

Here is a chart someone developed that attempted to adjust for the differences in populations when comparing and developing a rate. UK in this list but some rather astonishing changes in rates when adjusted per population.

I would just post the charts but they won't copy and past.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/348...ntries-like-in-us-one-chart-proves-him-wrong/
 
Here is a chart someone developed that attempted to adjust for the differences in populations when comparing and developing a rate. No UK in this list but some rather astonishing changes in rates when adjusted per population.

I would just post the charts but they won't copy and past.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/348...ntries-like-in-us-one-chart-proves-him-wrong/

Bob, you do know that UK is the abbreviation for United Kingdom don't you? And this thread is about burglary in Scotland, not shootings, and not the UK overall.
 


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