Mass State Police Are Trying To Surround Group of Armed Men

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This has crossed the various wires and I will summarize. A group of armed men in military style uniforms and gear, calling themselves the Rise Of The Moors, fled into the woods from a traffic stop by state police. The incident happened around 1:30 a.m. when a state trooper came across a group of 8 to 10 people refueling on the side of the I-95 highway in Wakefield, a suburb of Boston. Officials said they made two arrests and the rest of the group,fled into a wooded area that is now surrounded by police. It was reported that a section of I95 was closed off.

I am guessing this is some variant of the "sovereign citizens" movement.

Edit Update: I've learned this appears to be some nationalist group of "sovereign citizens". I've no proof of that, though.
 

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JonDouglas said:
This has crossed the various wires and I will summarize. A group of armed men in military style uniforms and gear, calling themselves the Rise Of The Moors, fled into the woods from a traffic stop by state police. The incident happened around 1:30 a.m. when a state trooper came across a group of 8 to 10 people refueling on the side of the I-95 highway in Wakefield, a suburb of Boston. Officials said they made two arrests and the rest of the group,fled into a wooded area that is now surrounded by police. It was reported that a section of I95 was closed off.

I am guessing this is some variant of the "sovereign citizens" movement.

Edit Update: I've learned this appears to be some nationalist group of "sovereign citizens". I've no proof of that, though.
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They've closed off part of I 95 and have a shelter in place order for Wakefield and Reading. Police have arrested 9 people.
 
Warrigal said:
Rise of the Moors?

Sounds to me like they are preparing to take on the white supremacists om battle?

You have big problems over there IMO.
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Not to make light of the situation but we've had various groups fighting each other since before the founding of the country. I won't give you a history lesson but some that come to mind are: native American groups vs. colonists, French vs. English, colonials vs. English, Shay's Rebellion, the Whiskey Rebellion, the Civil War, Hatfields vs. McCoys, police vs. Bonnie & Clyde, etc. This really is nothing new. Also, this sovereign citizen movement doesn't get too far on the streets or in the courts. See video below of one of these critters.


Edit Note: The treatment of various groups like the Sovereigns, varies from state to state and city to city. Some places are so politically sensitive that the politicians and police are afraid to even stare offenders down (only a slight exaggeration), let alone up hold the laws.
 
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Warrigal said:
Apart from a couple of mutinies and a few bushrangers, Australian history has been rather uneventful.
That is unless you look at it from the perspective of the indigenous peoples.
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You guys were a PENAL colony. :ROFLMAO: Nobody would want to mess with you. No offence. I'm just being an ugly American.
 
These radical groups are nothing new. In the 1950s, these were the guys building fall out shelters, and arming themselves to fight the Commies,. And what's scary, these were the guys, who probably started the American Revolution.
BTW-Oz wasn't the only far away colony to dump criminals . The eastern shore of the US & Canada were also used.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
These radical groups are nothing new. In the 1950s, these were the guys building fall out shelters, and arming themselves to fight the Commies,. And what's scary, these were the guys, who probably started the American Revolution.
BTW-Oz wasn't the only far away colony to dump criminals . The eastern shore of the US & Canada were also used.
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Where were there penal colonies in the U.S. and Canada? We had pilgrims where I live. A serious stoney faced law abiding bunch. :giggle:
 
chic said:
Where were there penal colonies in the U.S. and Canada? We had pilgrims where I live. A serious stoney faced law abiding bunch. :giggle:
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I believe the British used North America as a penal colony for a while, specifically the province of Georgia. I don't remember anything more than that.
 
It's going to get worse before it gets better. What we saw on Jan. 06 says a lot. These sudden constitutional experts are the product of the internet and a 9th grade education.
 
chic said:
Where were there penal colonies in the U.S. and Canada? We had pilgrims where I live. A serious stoney faced law abiding bunch. :giggle:
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Sorry Chic but we became a penal colony because after the War of Independence the British could no longer send convicts to the Americas. Slaves then replaced convict labour in the South.

Transportation from England to America started in 1615 and officially lasted until 1775 when the American War of Independence meant that this destination became unusable and convicts were sent instead to Australia and other colonies. In 1615, English courts began to send convicts to the colonies as a way of alleviating England’s large criminal population.[2] Many people were living in poverty as the population exceeded employment opportunities and society saw petty offences grow and criminality began to be an event ‘to which the lower strata were attached as to conditions of existence’.[3] The 1717, ‘Act for further preventing robberies, burglary and other felonies and for the effectual transportations of felons’ commonly known as the 1718 Transportation Act, was crucial for increasing the number of convicts transported to the American colonies as those punished for theft related crimes tripled. [4]

Transportation from England to the American Colonies 1615-1775 – Transportation to America 1615-1775 (home.blog)
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fmdog44 said:
It's going to get worse before it gets better. What we saw on Jan. 06 says a lot. These sudden constitutional experts are the product of the internet and a 9th grade education.
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Unfortunately, there's more afoot than that. Also, they were to be arraigned in court today in Boston and it didn't go well. This is not a law-friendly group.
 

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