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Same here... I have a feeling we will at some point.i want to hear from a knowledgeable source.
Same here... I have a feeling we will at some point.i want to hear from a knowledgeable source.
I agree with most of that."Yes—but “herd immunity to COVID-19” does not mean that we will soon achieve a level of immunity in the population, like what we see with measles, and coronavirus will be “over.” Returning to life as it was before the pandemic, without seeing large coronavirus outbreaks, is unlikely to happen for several years, for a few reasons.
First, it has proven much harder to get people vaccinated against COVID-19 than against measles. As of September 2021, just over half of the US population was fully vaccinated against COVID-19—even though we know that the FDA-approved vaccines are extremely safe and have remained highly effective, even against new variants like the delta variant.
Second, young children are still not eligible for the vaccine, and new children (who are susceptible to COVID-19) are born every day. So, until we get vaccines that are approved for use in all ages, there is likely to be ongoing transmission of the coronavirus in kids, who will in turn be able to infect adults, especially unvaccinated ones.
Third, while our vaccines against COVID-19 are very effective and dramatically reduce the risk of infection, they do not reduce that risk to zero. People who have gotten vaccinated can still become infected (so-called breakthrough infections), and some people who have had COVID-19 can get it again. This means that we would need an even higher level of vaccination against COVID-19 to achieve herd immunity.
For all these reasons, it will be very challenging to get to the level of population immunity against COVID-19 that we have seen with measles in the U.S. We should therefore expect to see some level of ongoing coronavirus transmission in our population for many years (if not forever). But as we build immunity to SARS-CoV-2, the risk of severe illness will decrease, and future waves of infection won’t be as disruptive."
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/what-is-herd-immunity-and-how-can-we-achieve-it-with-covid-19
The Swedish study revealed that the spike proteins can penetrate the nucleus of the cell and interfere with DNA's ability to repair itself which could be causing/contributing to reinfection and recurrence of cancers in people previously in remission but more research needs to be done which is hard because the official narrative is just to shut up and get vaccinated even though the most vaccinated countries are doing the worst in controlling covid whereas Sweden and Africa are doing better.I agree with most of that.
But a very interesting study came out of Sweden recently and a lot of medical PhDs/MDs are talking about it. It showed evidence that a SARS-CoV 2 protein in both the vaccine and the virus itself has the ability to enter any human cell and replicate uncontrollably. They think this could be what's causing reinfection and Long Covid.
This was an in vitro lab study, and those don't always translate to "real life" outcomes, so follow-up studies are in progress now, including a major one in Japan. I can only find discussions and lectures at this time but I'm keeping an eye on it.
If the study proves true, then the vaccine would need to be tweaked and/or be given with an additional medication. So, not the end of the world.
You can die or become seriously disabled getting vaxxed for a virus that has a 99+% survival rate. That's hardly a "little thing" to many. It isn't even a vaccine in the true sense of the word. This is an "experimental drug" promoted as a vaccine released on an emergency measure basis. It has No product liability.Lots of people refusing to vax. Many of them dying. I'm sure there's something to be said about life's little choices.
You can die or become seriously disabled getting vaxxed for a virus that has a 99+% survival rate.
All many pro vaccine people do is delegitimize valid concerns by endlessly regurgitating government propaganda. Do you have an original thought on the subject?and are likelier to do without such a vax as shown in the daily headlines: Unvaccinated hospitalized patients say they regret not getting the shot (nbcnews.com)
There's something to be said about turning people into programmed robots.Lots of people refusing to vax. Many of them dying. I'm sure there's something to be said about life's little choices.
All many pro vaccine people do is delegitimize valid concerns by endlessly regurgitating government propaganda. Do you have an original thought on the subject?
i believe that we've already heard from knowledgeable medical people who have been working with similar viruses for years and those individuals have fund that the current treatment regimens ;including the vaccine and newly developed anti- virals; are safe and effective.Same here... I have a feeling we will at some point.
Can you present any evidence that promoting vaccination and public safety constitutes "government propaganda"?
I'll wait ...
Can you present any evidence that promoting vaccination and public safety constitutes "government propaganda"?
That you're admitting they're doing it but still want evidence that they're doing it is your evidence.![]()
.The fact that you fail to back up your claims with clear and convincing evidence is proof of your failings. Try again.
You think that the current vaccines will protect the new variants that are on the horizon? Will there be another vaccine in the future for the new variants. I'm asking because I am a bit confused?i believe that we've already heard from knowledgeable medical people who have been working with similar viruses for years and those individuals have fund that the current treatment regimens ;including the vaccine and newly developed anti- virals; are safe and effective.
Didn't Pfizer say if the current vaccine proves ineffective against the Omicron (spelling) variant, they will have a new vaccine ready for distribution within 100 days. Leave it to Pfizer if there's money to be made. And how safe will this new vaccine be? Ready in 100 days? Either they planned, oops, prepared for this or...?You think that the current vaccines will protect the new variants that are on the horizon? Will there be another vaccine in the future for the new variants. I'm asking because I am a bit confused?
A good way to beat that is to use all your expertise & start your own business.A vaccine mandate is your employer’s way of informing you they own you, like chattel slavery, 24/7. If you are lucky, they will give you enough for a roof and food (just like antebellum slaves). They will "doctor you" as though by veterinary care, as an animal, with no say over drugs administered you.
It’s is their way of declaring *ownership* over the bodies of their slaves, and a declaration that they are no longer an employer, but a slave-master.
Too many restrictions to comply with to become successful going down that road. No one is getting around the vaccine mandate Permanently, that I have seen. We Are owned, at the moment.A good way to beat that is to use all your expertise & start your own business.
You're always owned, at any moment. The powers that be........Too many restrictions to comply with to become successful going down that road. No one is getting around the vaccine mandate Permanently, that I have seen. We Are owned, at the moment.
In the News: First Generation Immigrants Make up 1 in 5 US Business OwnersToo many restrictions to comply with to become successful going down that road. No one is getting around the vaccine mandate Permanently, that I have seen. We Are owned, at the moment.
In the News: First Generation Immigrants Make up 1 in 5 US Business Owners
Published: Jul 9, 2021 by Small Business Editor In Small Business News
It has been said the U.S. is the land of opportunity, and according to Score’s, The Megaphone of Main Street: Unsung Entrepreneurs, it still holds true. The report in this week’s roundup reveals 20% of All US Business Owners are First-Generation Immigrants. And when you take into account only 13% of the U.S. population are first-generation immigrants, it is impressive.
Another group that dominates business ownership in the U.S. is people over the age of 55. Even though this group makes up 21% of the population, they account for more than half, or 50.9% of business owners. Veterans are also well represented, making up 9% of business owners while representing 7.6% of the U.S. population.
https://smallbiztrends.com/2021/07/small-business-news-roundup-july-9-2021.html
As of July 9, this year. Now we know who is to blame for those still working as slaves. Darn seniors & 1st. generation Immigrants.
With some effort it's possible to overcome restrictions to become the "masters".
How would owning your own business help? You would still have to make sure your employees comply with vaccine mandates.A good way to beat that is to use all your expertise & start your own business.
You wouldn't be owned or be the "slave". Your business wouldn't necessarily mean that you employ people.How would owning your own business help? You would still have to make sure your employees comply with vaccine mandates.