Medical Marijuana and Other Questions About Pot

You're welcome Keesha. Jam, it might not be 15 minutes for me, but the show starts at 11PM, and I listen with a tiny radio under my pillow, so a lot of times I doze off during the show.
 

It starts here at 10PM which is my bedtime and I'm usually out like a light by 10:20 or so...my sleep combo has been kicking in for over an hour. but my sleep is good and important....take care.
 
I heard about 40 minutes of E.M. last night and liked what he was saying. Now IF I could find an oil to ingest for overall body OA pain that I could afford and would get me off at least some of the ibuprofen, I'd buy it, but the word is afford. I've tried a couple oils that I could afford and they did nothing.
 

Finally....FDA Approves Drug Derived from Marijuana for Epilepsy Treatment

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The Food and Drug Administration on Monday approved the first drug derived from marijuana.

Epidiolex is an oral drug made from cannabidiol, or CBD, designed to treat seizures associated with two rare and severe forms of epilepsy – Lennox-Gastaut syndrome and Dravet syndrome – in patients two years and older, the FDA announced in a press release.

This is the first FDA-approved drug that contains a "purified drug substance derived from marijuana," as well as the first to be used in the treatment of Dravet syndrome. Epidiolex contains CBD, a chemical component of marijuana, but it does not contain THC, the psychoactive compound in marijuana that produces a high.



"This approval serves as a reminder that advancing sound development programs that properly evaluate active ingredients contained in marijuana can lead to important medical therapies. And, the FDA is committed to this kind of careful scientific research and drug development," FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb said in the release. "Because of the adequate and well-controlled clinical studies that supported this approval, prescribers can have confidence in the drug's uniform strength and consistent delivery that support appropriate dosing needed for treating patients with these complex and serious epilepsy syndromes."



Epidiolex was studied in three randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials comprised of 516 patients with one of the two seizure disorders. Taken along with other medications, Epidiolex was shown to be effective in reducing the frequency of seizures when compared to placebo.
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I thought this was the info about the GoGreen balm that Gary and JimW use for their arthritis but it’s not. Anyway the info is in here somewhere. Whoever wants the info can look for themselves I’m sure.
 
DCF said:
It is an effective pain reliever and if you get a strain with a high percentage of CBD, you won't get loopy. I did a film on marijuana and the need for proper research on the plants potential. You can see it here: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Me-Betw...pID=51pVBhksx6L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
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JimW said:
Hi Senex, Here's the link to where the discussion about the CBD balm and drops started. The discussion is scattered amongst Gary's awesome pics and tales of living off the grid in the Oregon wilderness. https://www.seniorforums.com/showthread.php/31353-Our-version-of-retirement-Living-a-childhood-dream?p=785001#post785001
I do suggest reading that entire thread from the beginning when you have a chance, the way Gary and his wife are spending their retirement along with Gary's craftsmanship is nothing short of amazing!

Here is the link to the balm we use, you can find the CBD drops on this site as well. I highly recommend the balm and you might have some luck with the drops. We've been using the 500mg strength and it's been working great. Good luck!
https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve
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ok I found the right info for hemp Balm that is supposed to relief arthritis.
This isn’t something I personally use. I use cannabis oil with THC.
 
Just FYI;

My 5 yr old granddaughter has a form of epilepsy, seizures and all.
The only medication that keeps her from the seizures is medical marijuana, no THC.

The recognized meds reduces them, but kept her in a very drugged state.
 
There are many children getting treated with medical marijuana for epilepsy very successfully but unfortunately not without criticism and redicule from others who don’t understand its benefits
 
Keesha said:
How is he coping now?
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The docs have backed off
things are better since authorities have backed off
His daughter (my granddaughter) is doing well
She still has minor seizures (you can see them in her eyes), but not so sedated (heavily drugged) with opiates and whatever the FDA says is just fine
 
Gary O' said:
The docs have backed off
things are better since authorities have backed off
His daughter (my granddaughter) is doing well
She still has minor seizures (you can see them in her eyes), but not so sedated (heavily drugged) with opiates and whatever the FDA says is just fine
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fabulous news Gary
Ive witnessed the same type of thing with others who have kids with epilepsy and compared to the FDA approved narcotics, it’s like chalk and cheese. It’s a good thing this very young lady has a smart open minded father who can think ‘outside’ The box.
Wonderful heart warming news :)
 
Keesha said:
fabulous news Gary
Ive witnessed the same type of thing with others who have kids with epilepsy and compared to the FDA approved narcotics, it’s like chalk and cheese. It’s a good thing this very young lady has a smart open minded father who can think ‘outside’ The box.
Wonderful heart warming news :)
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I had a girl dog who developed Idiopathic Epilepsy around the age of 5. She had severe seizures, and cluster seizures, several in a row and several times a day. She hallucinated right before a seizure. She was on heavy meds, and the vet had to keep increasing the doses for her. She was soon like a zombie, out of it most of the time, just herself every now and then for a few minutes.

She also had hip dysplasia and other health problems that she was taking meds and supplements for. Our hearts ached every time she had an episode, she'd go blind and be afraid of us when she came out of it, yelping to stand due to her hips. If I had the option of at least adding CBD oil to her list of meds, or reducing some of them, it would have been great. RIP.
 
I've heard positive things about medical marijuana. I have no problems with medical use, or even recreational use but...

A recent study showed pot users have a lower tolerance for pain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Study from Colorado using patients admitted to a trauma center. They discovered that 54% of those involved in an accident were regular pot users. They rated their pain higher than non pot users. It's just one study, more to come.
 
Interesting on the pain level issue, I have a pretty high pain level as I've lived with it so long and won't medicate myself to the zombie world.. I've been trying various CBD tinctures and ointments and so far for what I've spent, not much relief.

My Topricin (homeopathic) and Ultra Tiger Balm do a pretty good job for my joints.
 
WhatInThe said:
I've heard positive things about medical marijuana. I have no problems with medical use, or even recreational use but...

A recent study showed pot users have a lower tolerance for pain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Study from Colorado using patients admitted to a trauma center. They discovered that 54% of those involved in an accident were regular pot users. They rated their pain higher than non pot users. It's just one study, more to come.
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This article doesn’t specific what type of cannabis these people were using , the method they were using or the amount they were using.


It also states that 9% of users in this survey also used opiates or cocaine.
Do you think perhaps this may make this survey VOID considering that unspecified marijuana was ‘supposed’ to be the ‘only’ drug surveyed? It’s results are contaminated already.


Other prescription or illegal drugs do not have the same effect on users pain levels.
What prescription drugs or other illegal drugs are they talking about?


Another major problem with this survey is that they surveyed 4,000 - 13 year olds for FOUR years. Well duh
It’s a known fact that children should not have marijuana since their minds are still growing. This is bad news for sure.


What is regarded as ‘frequently abusing the substance?’
 
Keesha said:
This article doesn’t specific what type of cannabis these people were using , the method they were using or the amount they were using.


It also states that 9% of users in this survey also used opiates or cocaine.
Do you think perhaps this may make this survey VOID considering that unspecified marijuana was ‘supposed’ to be the ‘only’ drug surveyed? It’s results are contaminated already.


Other prescription or illegal drugs do not have the same effect on users pain levels.
What prescription drugs or other illegal drugs are they talking about?


Another major problem with this survey is that they surveyed 4,000 - 13 year olds for FOUR years. Well duh
It’s a known fact that children should not have marijuana since their minds are still growing. This is bad news for sure.


What is regarded as ‘frequently abusing the substance?’
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Since they mentioned Colorado was the first state to legalize marijuana there's probably a lot of recreational pot among the regular users, not just medical. The survey about pain tolerance and amount of opioid based pain killers needed/used, pot users needed about another 2 mgs per day compared to non pot users. Those on medical pot already have issues so I can see their pain being greater but the recreational users are a different story. If they are regulars users and didn't get to use during their hospital stay by the time they are discharged they're probably not feeling too great. The survey also noted it was taken from patients involving minor accidents so they are probably talking about minor cuts, breaks, sprains etc. I doubt the treated injuries were catastrophic or major surgery related.

The actual study conductor/report probably have the data on non cocaine and opioid users as well in a sub category. Although the cocaine and opioid users are different theoretically they also should have less pain starting out.
 
WhatInThe said:
Since they mentioned Colorado was the first state to legalize marijuana there's probably a lot of recreational pot among the regular users, not just medical. The survey about pain tolerance and amount of opioid based pain killers needed/used, pot users needed about another 2 mgs per day compared to non pot users. Those on medical pot already have issues so I can see their pain being greater but the recreational users are a different story. If they are regulars users and didn't get to use during their hospital stay by the time they are discharged they're probably not feeling too great. The survey also noted it was taken from patients involving minor accidents so they are probably talking about minor cuts, breaks, sprains etc. I doubt the treated injuries were catastrophic or major surgery related.

The actual study conductor/report probably have the data on non cocaine and opioid users as well in a sub category. Although the cocaine and opioid users are different theoretically they also should have less pain starting out.
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When I asked specifically what type of cannabis these people were using, I wasn’t inquiring whether it was recreational or medical marijuana. I was inquiring about what type of strains they were using including the THC, CBD ratio. Some strains are more indica dominant, some more sativa dominant and it makes a difference.


Also the method of use wasn’t mentioned either. Did these people vape or ingest the marijuana or did they just smoke it ?


It also wasn’t stated how much they used or when they used it. Was this done after meals or on any empty stomach? Did these children smoke an entire joint to themselves each time?


The problem with these so called ‘Surveys’ is that they desperately lack important specific information that make them credible. They are often paid and conducted for an entirely different reason than what’s claimed.


Also there is another survey that was done that is listed in between this other survey that is even more unbelievable that involved 4,000 thirteen year old students from 31 different schools.


Apparently ALL these students were experimented on each day for a FOUR year survey done on UNDER AGED children. In my opinion, this is child abuse. My first question is, what parents are going to allow their 13 year old children to be experimented on with illegal drugs at such a young age??? Their minds are still growing and this should never happen.
I’m shocked that a university would even allow this to happen.


It also doesn’t state what strains were used, the percentage ratings of THC verses CBD ratio, the method used , how much or how often.


The conclusions state that every year the students filled out questionnaires about their experience and how they felt but there are no specifics. It vaguely suggests that they might feel something external is part of their body and think they have been unjustly treated.


If they are 13 year old kids being experimented on for a survey then THEY ARE being unjustly treated and I personally call this survey BOGUS!!!


The biggest problem with surveys isn’t just the lack of pertinent information but the reason why they are being done and by whom. They usually ARE NOT done for the reasons claimed but done for different reasons altogether which makes their validity questionable to say the least.


They also are usually paid for and sponsored by independent sources which often are never stated otherwise, making them even more unbelievable.
 
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