Menendez Brothers Sentence changed to offer parole

We really do not know the truth of the matter of their so called sexual abuse by the father. Without concrete evidence, this entire case was manipulated by some clever attorneys.

There isn't one reason for what they did to their parents. They should never see the light of day as free men again, but, sadly, in our corrupt justice system, they will.
 

  • Kitty Menendez Was Shot 10 Times​

  • Lyle Menendez Nearly Decapitated His Father With A Gunshot​

    Lyle Menendez fired his shotgun into the back of his father's head, killing him instantly. Jose Menendez never saw his killers and was never aware that his sons were shooting him execution-style. The force of the shot nearly decapitated him.

This clearly shows overkill .... not just escape from abuse.
 
They were the sole inheritors of the estate. Did they get it or was it withheld as proceeds of crime?
 

seadoug said:
I think I've watched every possible documentary on the Menendez brothers and I'll admit I'm conflicted. They did kill their parents with a shotgun and lie about it, then go shopping for expensive watches, cars, etc. so there's that. They treated their parents' death like a celebration.

By the same token, their parents did seem quite self-absorbed and sexual abuse against young men wasn't a "thing" when they were sentenced so they could have indeed been driven to it. The father seemed like domineering monster.

The point with prison sentences should be to rehabilitate criminals. If they have truly been rehabilitated... and that's not up for me to decide... I'm fine with letting them go.
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The point of prisons is to punish the criminals for their law breaking. Rehabilitation would be an after thought.
 
Nathan said:
Yes, pick up the cars keys and walk out the door, because slaughtering your parents with 12ga. shotgun blasts is just messy.
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What Californians need to ask themselves is how will this precedence effect other cases of people in jail? Why won’t they be given the same opportunity for release, if they also have been established to be model prisoners? After all, the Constitution’s 14th amendment does state that we are to have “equal treatment under the law.” Does it not?
 
I've also followed all the news and watched all the documentaries about the Menendez brothers. Until there is irrefutable evidence proving Jose Menendez sexually assaulted his sons, I cannot in good conscience assume he committed such heinous acts as Erik and Lyle have claimed.

I believe Jose Menendez spoiled his sons by giving them everything they wanted, everything he didn't have growing up in Cuba. But on the other hand he was emotionally tough on them trying to make his sons self sufficient and financially successful men on their own. I believe his tactics used in trying to turn around the entitled and spoiled attitude of his 18 and 21 year old sons is what lead the brothers to killing both Jose and Kitty.

If released from prison, only time will tell if the brothers have been rehabilitated and can stay out of trouble.
 
Well we know for sure their parents aren't around so that as a concern is eliminated. I wonder what they learned while incarcerated that will help them rejoin society & be productive ?
 
911 said:
What Californians need to ask themselves is how will this precedence effect other cases of people in jail? Why won’t they be given the same opportunity for release, if they also have been established to be model prisoners? After all, the Constitution’s 14th amendment does state that we are to have “equal treatment under the law.” Does it not?
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They can be considered, that's all, however some post conviction remedy must be filed first. Their Lawyers filed a Habeas Corpus Petition citing new evidence.

https://www.cliffgardner.com/In_re _Menendez_Memo_5-1-23_Version_with_counsel.pdf
 
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ohioboy said:
They can be considered, that's all, however some post conviction remedy must be filed first. Their Lawyers filed a Habeas Corpus Petition citing new evidence.

https://www.cliffgardner.com/In_re _Menendez_Memo_5-1-23_Version_with_counsel.pdf
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Hasn’t their case been reviewed by 4 or 5 other courts and all of their requests for a new trial through a petition for a habeas corpus? The brothers were claiming new evidence. The DA was against a new trial. I relieve they also petitioned for clemency and resentencing.
 
According to Wikipedia, yes they filed various State and Federal Habeas Petitions throughout incarceration. All were denied, but this one was was based on newly discovered evidence prompting re - examination.
 
Why did all these [caring] family members not offer them refuge ? Do we here ... really believe that a fit 21 yr/old and a fit 18 yr/old could not overpower an out of shape 50 yr/old man , knock the dog-shit out'a him , grab the keys to a car and drive to the home of one of these [caring] family members ?

Let'em rot !!
 
Pepper said:
So bitter, so angry...........some of these posts. You'd think it was their own parents murdered.
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I think many of us are tired of the laws not being upheld, the sentences not being served and 'justice' being made a mockery of. Yes, I am angry about all of that. These adults were capable of getting out, asking for help, calling authorities or whatever. They were not still children, helpless. They premeditated murder, tried to get their parents will "fixed" and were out blowing money and partying after.

As for some of us being outspoken about this matter, well, the parents can't speak for themselves now can they?
 
One way or another, I believe these boys, now men, will be released.
ohioboy said:
They can be considered, that's all, however some post conviction remedy must be filed first. Their Lawyers filed a Habeas Corpus Petition citing new evidence.

https://www.cliffgardner.com/In_re _Menendez_Memo_5-1-23_Version_with_counsel.pdf
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I can’t believe I read the entire petition. Am I correct that the new evidence is a letter that Erik wrote to his cousin Andy Cano and divulged to him the sexual acts his father, Jose, was forced to perform on each other and the second piece of evidence was that Jose also had a sexual encounter (raped) with a young man from a singing group that RCA records had signed, which Jose held an executive position with, in the back of a limo?
 
911 said:
One way or another, I believe these boys, now men, will be released.

I can’t believe I read the entire petition. Am I correct that the new evidence is a letter that Erik wrote to his cousin Andy Cano and divulged to him the sexual acts his father, Jose, was forced to perform on each other and the second piece of evidence was that Jose also had a sexual encounter (raped) with a young man from a singing group that RCA records had signed, which Jose held an executive position with, in the back of a limo?
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That seems to be the gravamen of the Habeus petition, yes, the letter. It seems they are attaching great weight to it, as opposed to some meritless argument?
 
911 said:
One way or another, I believe these boys, now men, will be released.

I can’t believe I read the entire petition. Am I correct that the new evidence is a letter that Erik wrote to his cousin Andy Cano and divulged to him the sexual acts his father, Jose, was forced to perform on each other and the second piece of evidence was that Jose also had a sexual encounter (raped) with a young man from a singing group that RCA records had signed, which Jose held an executive position with, in the back of a limo?
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Correct. There was a letter written from Erik to his cousin about how he was being abused. I don't think it was allowed in evidence during the original trial. Also, a young man from Menudo who was underage at the time has now come forward to say he was abused by Jose Menendez.

Testimony of former Latin boy band member plays critical role in Menendez brothers' release
 
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Nathan said:
It's not likely that they will be a danger to society, their crime was targeted specifically at their parents.
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So the sentence was imposed only to protect society ? What about punishment ? Do you think they have been punished enough for shooting their parents multiple times with a shotgun ?

I agree , they may not be any danger to society at large , but too me they have not been punished nearly enough for the horrendous crime they already committed.
 
seadoug said:
Correct. There was a letter written from Erik to his cousin about how he was being abused. I don't think it was allowed in evidence during the original trial. Also, a young man from Menudo who was underage at the time has now come forward to say he was abused by Jose Menendez.

Testimony of former Latin boy band member plays critical role in Menendez brothers' release
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So, even if it happened [which I do not believe] that justifies a third party shooting him several times with a shotgun ?
 
Also, the letter wasn't admitted into evidence because it was considered hearsay. The letter Erik wrote to his cousin Andy Cano, the year before the murder, never explicitly stated Erik was being sexually assaulted or molested. The cousin, Andy Cano died before the trial and that is the reason why the letter was never admitted into evidence. There is a legal reason for it and if you're truly interested in knowing you can research it on numerous platforms, one of them being, ChatGPT. ChatGPT will summarize it nicely if you don't have the patience nor desire to do a deep dive to learn more.

Erik also wrote a short story the same year before the murder about 2 brothers killing their wealthy parents for the inheritance. IMHO, it sounds like Erik has creative writing skills or possibly setting up their excuse for killing the parents.

The young man accusing Jose of rape, 20 plus years later, is always a red flag for me. Why wait so long to come forward?

So, the cryptic letter and a decades old accusation is not enough evidence for me to assume Jose Menendez sexually assaulted his sons.

If the brothers were sexually assaulted, I agree, they will not be a danger to society. If they were not sexually assaulted and are just sociopaths playing the system and on the heart strings of all those who have been truly abused, then time will tell.

I feel most for the living family members who will have to deal/live with the brothers once paroled.
 
rgp said:
So the sentence was imposed only to protect society ? What about punishment ? Do you think they have been punished enough for shooting their parents multiple times with a shotgun ?

I agree , they may not be any danger to society at large , but too me they have not been punished nearly enough for the horrendous crime they already committed.
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What's the difference between multiple and one shot doing the job? Parents still dead. Multiple to me means extreme duress and relief their abusers are dead.
 

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