Microsoft rolls out 'controversial' feature that takes screenshots of your activity

That alone calls the clickbait article's reputability into question. Why tie completely unrelated issues together?

There were a gaggle of these scare stories put out around 10 months ago. Probably sponsored by the CCP. :p

Hmm, was this thread motivated by fanboy envy?

What does any of that have to do with fearmongering about Copilot+?

@dilettante, All 3 of your posts are clearly derogatory, designed to provoke...or an attempt to bully? Perhaps you are a fan of Bill Gates and this thread somehow offends you?
 

I switched to Linux. It took me a long time to figure out how to install it (I'm only half geek). And it took a bit of time to get used to it, but it got me away from Windows. God, I hate Windows, and there's no more Windows bull$hit. I'm so pleased with Linux. It's like a painkiller for my brain. It takes away all that misery and suffering for me that Bill Gates comes up.
 
@dilettante, All 3 of your posts are clearly derogatory, designed to provoke...or an attempt to bully? Perhaps you are a fan of Bill Gates and this thread somehow offends you?
I'm never sure what dilettante's motives are and I often don't understand what he's even talking about. I don't spend time deciphering his meaning or intent. If I don't get it right away, I just move on. But I do suspect there is some sort of agenda at play most of the time.
 

I'm never sure what dilettante's motives are and I often don't understand what he's even talking about. I don't spend time deciphering his meaning or intent. If I don't get it right away, I just move on. But I do suspect there is some sort of agenda at play most of the time.
I found using the ignore feature has it's positive side. I'm a firm believer in the K.I.S.S. concept.
 
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I switched to Linux. It took me a long time to figure out how to install it (I'm only half geek). And it took a bit of time to get used to it, but it got me away from Windows. God, I hate Windows, and there's no more Windows bull$hit. I'm so pleased with Linux. It's like a painkiller for my brain. It takes away all that misery and suffering for me that Bill Gates comes up.
I started using Linux in the early 2000s, eventually discontinuing Windows usage altogether after Windows 7. On the computer enthusiast forums that I frequent I see members in the "Microsoft Operating Systems" sections of the forums posting endlessly about various troubles, and concerns. Most of them are gamers, which kind of keeps them reigned in(enslaved) to using Windows. However, the Linux community has many tools available nowadays for successful gaming on Linux.
 
MS Windows has a history of having many security flaws and is patched monthly to fix some of them. The more new and improved ”features“ they add, the greater the chance for a new security flaw.

Combine the above with Recall logging every site you visit, and the potential for abuse is huge, IMO. My advice is to turn Recall off, and put a recurring note in your calendar to remind you to check weekly that it is still off.

I am not a security expert and the above are the conclusions I have come to after listening and reading the thoughts of many security experts. Do what you think best. It’s just my opinion.
 
sections of the forums posting endlessly about various troubles, and concerns. Most of them are gamers, which kind of keeps them reigned in(enslaved) to using Windows. However, the Linux community has many tools available nowadays for successful gaming on Linux.
That was my concern. I was deeply into MS Flight Simulator for years, and stayed with Windows on the assumption that it was designed for Windows. Microsoft stopped updating Flight Simulator and I lost interest. But it's recently been taken over by another outfit. But I had broken the habit, so I was free to make the switch.

A side benefit is that I no longer have to spend thousands of dollars on gaming computers. My last one died a year ago, and I replaced it with a Dell that cost $400.
 
I . . . disassociated my Outlook email from Outlook account, and use a PIN to sign in instead of email sign in.
@MACKTEXAS, would you mind sharing how you did that? I have Outlook accounts that I've been using for work for nearly 20 years. I hate Outlook (especially its updated version), but I feel rather stuck for now given the number of people and businesses I would have to contact were I to start using a new email address (although I may end up going that way).
 
That was my concern. I was deeply into MS Flight Simulator for years, and stayed with Windows on the assumption that it was designed for Windows. Microsoft stopped updating Flight Simulator and I lost interest. But it's recently been taken over by another outfit. But I had broken the habit, so I was free to make the switch.

A side benefit is that I no longer have to spend thousands of dollars on gaming computers. My last one died a year ago, and I replaced it with a Dell that cost $400.
A friend gave me a copy of MS Flight Simulator, he was very into it, networked with others all over the country. I tried it a bit but never got involved. Not long ago I had the idea of trying to run MS Flight Simulator in WINE, but evidently I must have let my copy go, along with the various Microsoft dependent software I gave away.
 
A friend gave me a copy of MS Flight Simulator, he was very into it, networked with others all over the country. I tried it a bit but never got involved.
The community was quite large. It was my first experience working with people from all over the world. I used to create additional scenery for airports that were left undeveloped my MS. I spent a lot of time on sea ports for sea planes. I would upload the stuff to a place where others could upload and download their creations and share with other simmers. On occasion I would combine efforts with other creators.

Some creators built airplanes. Some were actually better than what MS had to offer. Some guys just built gauges to add to control panels. They created things that MS left out like active radar. Some improved engine sounds. They stuff that was added by hobbiests took Flight simulator way beyond where MS was with it.

Some guys would start Charter carriers that would attract other simmers to fly for them. I often built special scenery for these, and added things to airports like their head quarters or office buildings. I specialized mostly in Alaska where guys created bush pilot operations. It just went on and on.

If it was only about flying airplanes, I would have lost interest after a couple of years, but building scenery was very rewarding. The MSFS shut down and there were not more improvements to the basic program for many years, and I lost interest.
 
I'm no fan of Gates but he's had nothing to do with the company besides own stock for many years.

Yes, my opinion is that the premise of this thread is garbage intended to spread FUD.


So yes, while the new "Recall" app is quite intrusive and technically spying on your PC activities, but it did so on your consent as it can be turned off. Therefore, if you don't turn it off, you by default consent for its recording. Now if a trojan manage to hack into the cache of "Recall", then it is also technically able to hack into passkeys stored in the PC, I assumed. The cache is supposed to be stored securely, according to Microsoft, so may be involving TPM chip? I'd imagine it will be quite difficult to get unauthorised access.​
Also people get furious about "Recall" but it is nothing more than a screenshot version of "Timeline". If you notice, Mircosoft Edge is also doing the same with its storage of browser history, with a screenshot of the website kept along with entries. So why suddenly you think "Recall" is too much to handle, when Mircosoft is already doing the same in Windows 10?​
Lastly, the resistance is futile as Linux will also be adapting to the same trend one day. In order for AI to work as a personalised assistant, it must get to know your habit, your preference and your life. Currently AI is being actively developed on the software side, but when it is available as a hardware that can physically involve in your life, you cannot avoid violation of the so-called privacy. The future with human-robot interaction is inevitable, so embrace AI now.​
 
@MACKTEXAS, would you mind sharing how you did that? I have Outlook accounts that I've been using for work for nearly 20 years. I hate Outlook (especially its updated version), but I feel rather stuck for now given the number of people and businesses I would have to contact were I to start using a new email address (although I may end up going that way).
You're asking how I did that, based on this part of my previous post today: " I . . . disassociated my Outlook email from Outlook account, and use a PIN to sign in instead of email sign in." So, you may be considering switching to a PIN to login to your computer.

It was April of last year when I did it, so I had to look back in my records, but I found it. These are brief instructions I typed out for myself at that time:

"If you're using Windows 11 with a Microsoft account and want to go local, head to Settings > Accounts > Your Info and click the link for Sign in with a local account instead. Click Next when asked if you're sure you want to a local account. Click Next and select the Sign out and finish button."

But that brief explanation may not be enough, so here is the link from PC Magazine where I got the information from, with more details. Even though the link is a year old it seems it has been updated for April, 2025.

And here is another link from Microsoft on the same subject which I used a year ago.

Near the end of you post you wrote: "I feel rather stuck for now given the number of people and businesses I would have to contact were I to start using a new email address."

I didn't set up a new email address. Once I made the disassociation, I just changed the password on my existing email account.
 
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According to an article by Arstechnica :

Security and privacy advocates are girding themselves for another uphill battle against Recall, the AI tool rolling out in Windows 11 that will screenshot, index, and store everything a user does every three seconds.

When Recall was first introduced in May 2024, security practitioners roundly castigated it for creating a gold mine for malicious insiders, criminals, or nation-state spies if they managed to gain even brief administrative access to a Windows device. Privacy advocates warned that Recall was ripe for abuse in intimate partner violence settings. They also noted that there was nothing stopping Recall from preserving sensitive disappearing content sent through privacy-protecting messengers such as Signal.

Following months of backlash, Microsoft later suspended Recall. On Thursday, the company said it was reintroducing Recall. It currently is available only to insiders with access to the Windows 11 Build 26100.3902 preview version. Over time, the feature will be rolled out more broadly.
Full article


Texas A&M Cyber Security offers more information and specifics on how to disable the MS Recall feature in Windows 11Pro and Windows 11 Home- MICROSOFT RECALL | IT Security & Risk Documentation
 
I didn't set up a new email address. Once I made the disassociation, I just changed the password on my existing email account.
Thanks, @MACKTEXAS. I do in fact use a PIN, but I'm not always prompted to use it. I do have 2FA set up for all of my emails.

I didn't meant to imply I thought you had changed email addresses. I was simply spouting off about how I wanted to do so. I'm not happy with Outlook.

Thanks again.
 
My machine has copilot, but I have it turned off or disconnected. However, I was still concerned about this "recall" feature, and wanted to make sure it was not working on my machine, so I looked into it just awhile ago.

I found the following within the body of this link from Windows Central:

"If your PC was purchased before June 18, 2024, it does not have Windows Recall. If your PC was purchased after June 18, 2024, it might have Windows Recall depending on if you purchased a Copilot+ PC. To check, just type "Recall" into the Windows Start Menu. If you see the Recall app, then your PC does have Recall installed and it can be disabled or uninstalled by following the guide above."

The same link also explains how to disable or uninstall "recall," for any who don't want it.

My machine was bought in 2023. I followed he above instructions to check, and it does not have "recall."
 
I disabled copilot as soon as I discovered it, disabled any and all audio assistance apps, disabled location services, disassociated my Outlook email from Outlook account, and use a PIN to sign in instead of email sign in. I do not use any Cloud services; always use incognito for browsing and clear browsing history with every exit, and use a VPN when searching for anything sensitive. I'm not sure how much privacy those steps actually provide, but they're better than doing nothing.
Looks like you have all bases covered. ;)
 
I'm never sure what dilettante's motives are and I often don't understand what he's even talking about. I don't spend time deciphering his meaning or intent. If I don't get it right away, I just move on. But I do suspect there is some sort of agenda at play most of the time.
Agree.
 
For the curious, here is a bit of information on the subject. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

How can I see, change, or delete what Copilot remembers about me?
You can view and edit what Copilot remembers about you at any time.

To see what Copilot remembers, simply ask, “What do you know about me?” Copilot will then summarize its memory of you.
To update or delete specific details, say things like, “Forget about [X]” or “Remember that I like [Y].” Copilot will update its memories.
If you want Copilot to forget all of the details it remembers about you, simply turn off personalization.


How can I turn off personalization?
If you are signed in to Copilot, you can change your personalization settings in the Copilot app at any time in the following ways:

On copilot.microsoft.com: Select your profile icon, select your profile name, then select Privacy > Personalization.
In Copilot for Windows: Select your profile icon, then select Settings > Privacy > Personalization.
In the Copilot mobile app: Open the menu, select your profile icon, then select Account > Privacy > Personalization.

Please note that these options are only available to users who are signed in, as personalization is disabled for unauthenticated users.

If you turn off personalization, Copilot will forget its memories of your conversations. You can still view your past conversations; however, your future Copilot experience will no longer be personalized. If you later turn personalization on again, Copilot will begin remembering details that you’ve shared with it, and will begin personalizing your experience again.

How will my Copilot conversations be used?
Your privacy and trust are paramount to us. Microsoft will only use your conversations for the limited purposes explained in the Microsoft Privacy Statement: to monitor performance, troubleshoot problems, diagnose bugs, prevent abuse, and other product performance analytics necessary to provide and improve Copilot.

We give you the power to decide if you want us to use your conversations for other purposes:

You control whether we use your conversations to personalize your experience with Copilot and provide you a more tailored and useful experience that meets your needs. You can disable personalization at any time. See Personalize your Copilot experience.
You control whether we use your conversations to train our AI models to create a better experience for you and others. You can opt out of use of your conversations for model training at any time. See Learn about model training.

Will my Copilot conversations become visible to other users?
No, nothing you say to Copilot will be made public. Your conversations and data will never be shared with other users.
 
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For the curious, here is a bit of information on the subject. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

How can I see, change, or delete what Copilot remembers about me?
You can view and edit what Copilot remembers about you at any time.

To see what Copilot remembers, simply ask, “What do you know about me?” Copilot will then summarize its memory of you.
To update or delete specific details, say things like, “Forget about [X]” or “Remember that I like [Y].” Copilot will update its memories.
If you want Copilot to forget all of the details it remembers about you, simply turn off personalization.


How can I turn off personalization?
If you are signed in to Copilot, you can change your personalization settings in the Copilot app at any time in the following ways:

On copilot.microsoft.com: Select your profile icon, select your profile name, then select Privacy > Personalization.
In Copilot for Windows: Select your profile icon, then select Settings > Privacy > Personalization.
In the Copilot mobile app: Open the menu, select your profile icon, then select Account > Privacy > Personalization.
Good deal, pretty much matches the "Manual" method as shown in the Texas A&M article. For those not wishing to visit the TAMU link ,here is a synopsis:
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Several methods to disable the Recall feature are listed below. We recommend using a method that is not easily bypassed by local users, and that you monitor devices for compliance using your device management platform. If you have any questions or need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the endpoint security team, endpoint-security@tamu.edu.
Method 1: Registry Modification

If you have a device running Windows 11 Home, you won’t have access to the Group Policy Editor, but you can also disable Windows Recall through the Registry by modifying the “WindowsAI” key.

To disable Windows Recall through the Registry, use these steps:

    Open Start.

    Search for regedit and click the top result to open the Registry Editor.

    Browse to the following path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsAI

    Right-click the WindowsAI key, select the New menu, and choose the “DWORD (32-bit) Value” option.

Registry create DisableAIDataAnalysis

    Name the key DisableAIDataAnalysis and press Enter.

    Double-click the newly created key and change its value from 0 to 1.

Registry disable Recall AI

    Click the OK button.

    Browse to the following path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsAI

    Right-click the WindowsAI key, select the New menu, and choose the “DWORD (32-bit) Value” option.

Registry Local Machine create DisableAIDataAnalysis

    Name the DWORD DisableAIDataAnalysis and press Enter.

    Double-click the newly created key and change its value from 0 to 1.

Registry disable Recall AI from Local Machine

    Click the OK button.

    Restart the computer.

After you complete the steps, the timeline feature will no longer be operational on your Copilot+ PC.
Method 2: Group Policy Object (GPO)

If you have a device running Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, or Education, you can disable the Recall feature from the Group Policy Editor. This option isn’t available on Windows 11 Home.

To disable Recall through Group Policy, use these steps:

    Open Start.

    Search for gpedit and click the top result to open the Group Policy Editor.

    Browse the following path:

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows AI

    Right-click the “Turn off saving snapshots of Windows” policy and choose the Edit option.

Turn off saving snapshots of Windows

    Check the Enabled option.

Group Policy disable Recall

    Click the Apply button.

    Click the OK button.

Once you complete the steps, the Recall feature should no longer run on your computer.

If you also want to ensure that the data is removed from the computer, open Settings > Privacy & security > Recall & snapshots, click on the “Delete all snapshots” setting, click the “Delete all” button, and click the “Delete” button again to confirm.

Recall delete snapshots after disabling feature
Method 3: Manual Settings

    Go to: Settings > Privacy & Security

    Navigate to: Recall & Snapshots

    Turn off the Savings Snapshots option.
 
Use extreme caution with any modifications to the Windows Registry, and back it up beforehand. Any errors in editing the registry has the potential of causing system instability or failure.

This video has instructions on how to back up the registry.

 


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