Milk is Racist say experts...

Tazx said:
No ones bashing anyone who is doing the work. I was bashing the garbage that turn things into racism, discrimination etc.

But...I take no offense to you continuing to put out that I am being negative, as I stated that I may have misworded my response to the OP. I stated what I meant in the follow up, but it seems to me like you won't let it go. Fair enough, your right to do so. But I am done responding to this as I have already made it clear. Let it go.
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I'm not intending to attack you, Tazx. Just following the flow. I really mean nothing personal toward you, we can disagree on this topic, and agree on another, it's all good. :)

As I've said, what's interesting is that the headline is completely untrue - but people don't care. That alone is interesting, and says a lot, imo.

But no offense intended, Tazx.

ps: How do you say your username? :D
 

MarkinPhx said:
I did a search on the topic and apparently this is not a new issue. The searches that popped up for me mainly deal with the high lactose intolerant rate among minorities and schools pushing milk as the main beverage for meals along with other dairy products offered with the meals.
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When I was a kid and you bought lunch at the school you had to not only have milk, but drink it. If certain populations are lactose intolerant, but yet were forced--and we were and to finish everything else on the tray also, I can see how certain people would deem that racist. I don't know if that was a strict interpretation of federal law or just controlling primary school age kids. There were all sorts of rules about who could bring a lunch, what happened to the unserved food etc, that we as children were told were the law.

By the time I got to a different school in 7th grade, you either ate it or not. No enforcement policy.
 
Flarbalard said:
When I was a kid and you bought lunch at the school you had to not only have milk, but drink it. If certain populations are lactose intolerant, but yet were forced--and we were and to finish everything else on the tray also, I can see how certain people would deem that racist. I don't know if that was a strict interpretation of federal law or just controlling primary school age kids. There were all sorts of rules about who could bring a lunch, what happened to the unserved food etc, that we as children were told were the law.

By the time I got to a different school in 7th grade, you either ate it or not. No enforcement policy.
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When I went to school, the state provided a glass of milk for us poor little folk. It came in a paper triangle.
 
VaughanJB said:
Let's be clear here.

No expert said milk was racist. None. That's a fabrication from a tabloid newspaper to get people worked up. That it's completely untrue doesn't seem to bother people very much, which frankly is what *I* see as the real problem.
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So, this statement from Dr Johanna Zetterstrom-Sharp and quoted in the article isn't a racist jab? ... got it. She isn't an expert.

"Dr Johanna Zetterstrom-Sharp said the assumption that milk was a key part of the human diet 'may be understood as a white supremacist one', ..."
 
hollydolly said:
Can things get even more ridiculous ...?

A taxpayer-funded project is set to research connections between milk and colonialism, it was revealed yesterday.

Academics at an Oxford museum will research the 'political nature' of milk and its 'colonial legacies'.

One of the experts involved has previously argued that milk is a 'Northern European obsession' that has been imposed on other parts of the world.

Dr Johanna Zetterstrom-Sharp said the assumption that milk was a key part of the human diet 'may be understood as a white supremacist one', as many populations outside Europe and North America have high levels of lactose intolerance in adulthood.

The new project, 'Milking it: colonialism, heritage & everyday engagement with dairy', has won funding from the Arts and Humanities Research Council.

The council itself is funded by the Government through the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, and awards around £110million to researchers at universities and independent organisations.

The milk project will be based at the History of Science Museum in Oxford, which announced it had received funding. The size of the grant has not yet been revealed.

The museum said: 'By focusing on communities intersecting industry, aid and government regulation, the project aims to centre on heritage as a vital framework for understanding how colonial legacies influence contemporary issues and affect people's lives.

'Through milk diaries, archival research and participatory podcasting, it will investigate historical engagement with milk, building networks with consumers and producers in Britain and Kenya.

'The project will question both the imagined and real aspects of milk, revealing the intimate and political nature of this everyday substance.'

Dr Zetterstrom-Sharp, a University College London associate professor at the Institute of Archaeology, and Dr JC Niala, head of research at the History of Science Museum.
Experts asking whether milk is racist in tax-payer funded project
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It is a bit weird though, to think that we are weaned from our mother's milk as babies but conditioned to drink the milk of another species for life.
 
Naturally said:
So, this statement from Dr Johanna Zetterstrom-Sharp and quoted in the article isn't a racist jab? ... got it. She isn't an expert.

"Dr Johanna Zetterstrom-Sharp said the assumption that milk was a key part of the human diet 'may be understood as a white supremacist one', ..."
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Seriously, you think that means she's saying "milk is racist"? Wow.

Look - products, conventions, languages, have moved around this little blue marble in forever. The economics of products and items is as old as humanity itself. What enabled and drove say, the spread of bananas around the world? There were mechanisms in play, reasons why things happened other than how good things tasted. Like it or not, colonialism was one of those. We, in the UK, have a long history of colonization, and then controlling what goods were grown, shipped around the world, and so on. It's a fact.

By the way, it wasn't British Colonialists that started the banana thing, that was Portuguese colonists who started banana plantations in the Atlantic Islands, Brazil, and western Africa and started exporting them. Still, I'm not aware of anyone saying bananas are racist.

So, it also applies to milk. The history of milk may indeed, be understood as a white supremacist one. Let's not forget, we're talking about the HISTORY of milk and its dissemination. No-one is claiming milk is racist, it's apparently about the history of milk. The headline was clickbait. Congrats to them, it seems to have worked.
:D
 
Alizerine said:
It is a bit weird though, to think that we are weaned from our mother's milk as babies but conditioned to drink the milk of another species for life.
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It's well known that we don't need to drink milk. In fact, when it comes to nutrients, most any diary product isn't necessary if you have a decent diet.

Mind you, I do like it in my tea.
 
VaughanJB said:
Seriously, you think that means she's saying "milk is racist"? Wow.

Look - products, conventions, languages, have moved around this little blue marble in forever. The economics of products and items is as old as humanity itself. What enabled and drove say, the spread of bananas around the world? There were mechanisms in play, reasons why things happened other than how good things tasted. Like it or not, colonialism was one of those. We, in the UK, have a long history of colonization, and then controlling what goods were grown, shipped around the world, and so on. It's a fact.

By the way, it wasn't British Colonialists that started the banana thing, that was Portuguese colonists who started banana plantations in the Atlantic Islands, Brazil, and western Africa and started exporting them. Still, I'm not aware of anyone saying bananas are racist.

So, it also applies to milk. The history of milk may indeed, be understood as a white supremacist one. Let's not forget, we're talking about the HISTORY of milk and its dissemination. No-one is claiming milk is racist, it's apparently about the history of milk. The headline was clickbait. Congrats to them, it seems to have worked.
:D
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Got it ... white supremacists are in no way racists nor should be accused or confused as such
 
hollydolly said:
I mean... if a white person uses the N word..they are supposedly racist and can get you arrested in the UK ..if a black person uses it.. it's all jolly friends between them...and not racist...
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This a rather normal thing among nationalities and ethnic groups. My Italian American friends can call each other things like WAP and other insulting terms and do it good naturedly. But, you other folks? Them’s fighting words. IMO, this double standards is rather universal and not a big deal. One caution, don’t do it often in front of others. We don’t want to normalize racial and national slurs.
 
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Flarbalard said:
When I was a kid and you bought lunch at the school you had to not only have milk, but drink it. If certain populations are lactose intolerant, but yet were forced--and we were and to finish everything else on the tray also, I can see how certain people would deem that racist. I don't know if that was a strict interpretation of federal law or just controlling primary school age kids. There were all sorts of rules about who could bring a lunch, what happened to the unserved food etc, that we as children were told were the law.

By the time I got to a different school in 7th grade, you either ate it or not. No enforcement policy.
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I remember this so well..I hated school milk... it would sit in crates in the warm dining hall waiting for us at interval time, and we all HAD to drink a 1/3 of a pint... and every day I would be bent over with a stomach ache..
 
gruntlabor said:
:) I was raised in a remote cannery. We lived on canned milk and salmon.
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Milk and Salmon...... man I LOVE Salmon.

But a confession about milk - years ago I was converted to Skimmed Milk. My partner drank skimmed, and I just got tired going to the fridge to find there was no full milk. So I caved. I've even tried to go back to the proper stuff, but my tastebuds are ruined forever. :(
 
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Brookswood said, "My Italian American friends can call each other things like WAP and other insulting terms and do it good naturedly. But, you other folks? Them’s fighting words."
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WOP = without papers
 
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