More race riots in America

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WhatInThe said:
I'm afraid this is only round one. The next round goes to the grand jury and verdict. The bias and incompetent coverage of that is fanning the flames already. The round after that will be a trial.
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True. Lots more to come. If the officer is eventually found not guilty, all hell will break loose. The only way out of this is to find him guilty. A lot of pressure will be on the jury. I'm glad I won't be on it.
 

I've been reading reports of government provocateurs inciting crowds to justify a military style crackdown.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...t-provocateurs-inciting-violence-3013816.html

Don't scuff at this report. I've seen or heard reports for years of government agencies and police departments infiltrating hippy peace protest groups during the Vietnam War. Every now and then the Feds or local police get caught spying on groups without any evidence of criminal wrong doing for probable cause for a search warrant-meaning their "intelligence" gathering activities could be considered warrantless searches.

Also remember the military has conducted military exercises in urban environments several times over the years. And has to justify big budgets and equipment.

I'm not sure when these provocateurs would've entered the protests or their precise purpose but do not put it past them.
 
Thanks for the comeback, Warr. I have been talking to a number of white dudes on an Australian forum when i thought you didn't see my question. To some its a sensitive subject. More in the way we managed the American Indians than the way we have managed our blacks. And there are two minds to everything. Cheers.
 

Warrigal, When my oldest was murdered, I felt like doing to the murderer the same that was done to my son. But they caught him the next day, making it possible for my son children to have someone to raise them. Sometimes we have to swallow the evil to be able to help those we love.
 
I agree with you 100%, Ina. I'm talking about feelings, not actions. Law should always prevail and as far as is humanly possible, law should be just, with everyone being equal under the law. An ideal certainly but society is measured by how close we come to realising our ideals.

When some people are demonstrably not equal before the law then anger does build up, sometimes to bursting point. I understand that.
 
Warrigal, I totally agree. That's why I said I felt like doing... But those were just emotions. Unless physically threaten myself, I couldn't harm another being. But sometimes we need to let our thought release some of the emotions so we can move on.:wave:
 
Twixie said:
The thing is that these men..when they have been shot by the police, according to the black community..was an avid church goer..loved his mom..and frequently worked for charity...

But when you look them up on Facebook..they are standing there..usually holding a gun or knife..with a gang scarf on their heads!!:confused:
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Sweet little Michael Brown...

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...giving the finger & flashing gang signs.

Now, to be fair... that is typical teenage behavior & does not necessarily mean he was a gangsta or a hardened criminal.

But this...

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... is pretty damning.
 
I don't see anything that Michael Brown has done that warrants his head being blown off. People are definitely taking sides as they usually do in these cases. I personally would like to hear what really happened on that day, some facts instead of speculation. It will be interesting, hopefully we will get the full account of why that man was shot that day. It's unfortunate that everyone has to wait so long for the answers, let's hope we get the real truth no matter who it favors. I think the officer deserves a fair trial, and should not be threatened.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Also to be fair, the police officer who shot him had no idea about the robbery or any gang connections.
The events immediately before the shooting are the only events that are relevant now.
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I think we've said that before Warri, but nobody seems to care. Thanks for being fair, and pointing this out again.
 
Shamhat said:
"Give peace a chance, yes, but why not get serious and give it a place in the curriculum: peace courses in every school, every grade, every nation. Unless we teach our children peace, someone else will teach them violence." -Coleman McCarthy

There is never an excuse for looting, stealing, stereotyping or murder. The whole picture is a horrible testament to the state of affairs in America. Neither course justifies the other. Each should be addressed and corrected separately. I am a black female retired cop and the mother of a 33 year old man.
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I agree with you. There is no excuse for looting, stereotyping or murder. America is in a much sadder state of affairs than I imagined growing up in the 50s and 60s...thought things would be so much better by now. Instead, we're slipping backwards in many areas.
 
The video goes to character and shows that the kid could be dangerous and this point is worth repeating here again...
 
SeaBreeze said:
I think we've said that before Warri, but nobody seems to care. Thanks for being fair, and pointing this out again.
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And nobody on Michael Brown's side seems to give any credence whatsoever to the very real possibility that Officer Wilson might have been defending himself against a 6'2", 300 lb charging bull who had, moments earlier, punched him in the face repeatedly & tried to take his weapon away from him.

Obviously, there is no proof that that is what happened, but given the video from the store, we can all see what the "kid" was capable of & what his state of mind seemed to be.

No normal, innocent, well-intentioned person would attack a police officer & try to take their gun. If you are a cop who was just involved in such an encounter & you see that same person charging straight at you, after daring you to shoot him, what else are you supposed to think is about to happen to you if you just stand there & do nothing???

Was the cop supposed to jump back in his truck, lock the doors & cower like a little girl? Take off & run away while calling for help?

Might as well just put up signs telling the criminals they won & to just do whatever they want, because the police are too frightened of them to do their job.

I believe the cop's version of events. It is by far, the most plausible & likely scenario.
 
Twixie said:
The next time a white person is shot..I am going looting..I could do with a new freezer..:D
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Don't forget to bring a hand truck or appliance dolly with you, as those things are pretty heavy.

Unless you know of a nearby store you can loot one of those from first!!! :D
 
MrJim said:
And nobody on Michael Brown's side seems to give any credence whatsoever to the very real possibility that Officer Wilson might have been defending himself against a 6'2", 300 lb charging bull who had, moments earlier, punched him in the face repeatedly & tried to take his weapon away from him.

Obviously, there is no proof that that is what happened, but given the video from the store, we can all see what the "kid" was capable of & what his state of mind seemed to be.

No normal, innocent, well-intentioned person would attack a police officer & try to take their gun. If you are a cop who was just involved in such an encounter & you see that same person charging straight at you, after daring you to shoot him, what else are you supposed to think is about to happen to you if you just stand there & do nothing???

Was the cop supposed to jump back in his truck, lock the doors & cower like a little girl? Take off & run away while calling for help?

Might as well just put up signs telling the criminals they won & to just do whatever they want, because the police are too frightened of them to do their job.

I believe the cop's version of events. It is by far, the most plausible & likely scenario.
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Bit like the Mark Duggan shooting over here..a well known drug dealer..sat in a taxi with a gun..when he saw armed cops..he threw the gun out of the window..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shot-dead-marksman-did-not-gun-hand-time.html



He was apparently one of the most violent criminals in Europe..

Whose shooting gave rise to the biggest ''help yourself'' lootings that ever happened in Britain!!

I tried to post you a newspaper quote..''Duggan wasn't an Angel..he was a gangster'' unfortunately it appears to have been (ahem) deleted!!
 
I don't approve of everything the cops do, but I sure as heck (being polite here) am not going to jump to conclusions & condemn one of them for defending their lives. These guys deal with violent, hard core thugs & criminals on a daily basis & know that every day they start a shift could be their last.

Given what we now know about Brown's activities just prior to the shooting, I think it's a fairly safe bet that he attacked the cop & forced him to shoot.
 
MrJim said:
Don't forget to bring a hand truck or appliance dolly with you, as those things are pretty heavy.

Unless you know of a nearby store you can loot one of those from first!!! :D
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What do you mean??

Don't they deliver??..:cool:
 
Twixie said:
Bit like the Mark Duggan shooting over here..a well known drug dealer..sat in a taxi with a gun..when he saw armed cops..he threw the gun out of the window.

He was apparently one of the most violent criminals in Europe..

Whose shooting gave rise to the biggest ''help yourself'' lootings that ever happened in Britain!!

I tried to post you a newspaper quote..''Duggan wasn't an Angel..he was a gangster'' unfortunately it appears to have been (ahem) deleted!!
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We just had a violent, career thug with a 15 year rap sheet, shot & killed by the police day before yesterday here in Central Florida. When he answered his door with a gun in his hand, the cops told him to drop it. When he refused & raised it, they shot him.

Plain & simple. Don't point guns at or otherwise threaten cops.

Now his family are all screaming "Our poor baby!!! They didn't have to kill him!!!"

Here's their innocent little baby:

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MrJim said:
Not for free!!!

You'll either have to pay the delivery charge either in cash or looted sneakers.

Maybe a small flat screen TV.
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I'll just wait for the garage sale then..don't have the race card on me at the moment..
 
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