Most Americans who haven’t gotten a vaccine say they don’t plan to

JimBob1952 said:
No. But if our "public health leaders" would tell people that you don't have to wear a mask or sequester yourself after getting the vaccine, then maybe more people would get it. What's the point of getting the vaccine if you have to mask up and live like a shut-in anyway?
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That is starting to come out. I have read articles lately in the NY Times and Washington Post that you can relax a lot after getting vaccinated. However if people who were vaccinated stopped wearing masks, wouldn't the unvaccinated also stop wearing them (maybe lying about being vaccinated)? Of course, mostly the unvaccinated at that point would get Covid.
 

Don M. said:
We got our vaccinations several weeks ago. We now feel a bit of relief when we venture out in public....knowing that we are probably protected under most circumstances. Prior to getting the shots, we were always a bit concerned about everyone and everything we might come into contact with. Only time will tell just how effective these vaccines are....from a physical standpoint, but getting vaccinated sure took a load of "anxiety" off our shoulders.
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Amen to that, I agree
 
Becky1951 said:
In your opinion very few. That's just your opinion, no one can know the actual numbers of how many.
Its not ignorance, its Their right to chose.
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Yes, I made that clear, my opinion, so why do you still need to argue about it? My opinion is still permitted as is yours. I am done with this.
 

Jeweltea said:
That is starting to come out. I have read articles lately in the NY Times and Washington Post that you can relax a lot after getting vaccinated. However if people who were vaccinated stopped wearing masks, wouldn't the unvaccinated also stop wearing them (maybe lying about being vaccinated)? Of course, mostly the unvaccinated at that point would get Covid.
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And let them, the unvaccinated can stop wearing masks, the unvaccinated are free to get Covid or not, the unvaccinated are free to die or not, they can lie about being vaccinated or not. I do not care. It’s been a year, they know the facts, it’s their choice. 😂😂😂
 
JimBob1952 said:
No. But if our "public health leaders" would tell people that you don't have to wear a mask or sequester yourself after getting the vaccine, then maybe more people would get it. What's the point of getting the vaccine if you have to mask up and live like a shut-in anyway?
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You do not have to live like a shut in, but masks in my area are still mandatory
 
Jeweltea said:
That is starting to come out. I have read articles lately in the NY Times and Washington Post that you can relax a lot after getting vaccinated. However if people who were vaccinated stopped wearing masks, wouldn't the unvaccinated also stop wearing them (maybe lying about being vaccinated)? Of course, mostly the unvaccinated at that point would get Covid.
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"mostly the unvaccinated at that point would get Covid."

A vaccinated person can still get Covid.
 
Becky1951 said:
"Half of the country can't be allergic to the vaccine"

Its not just allergies, blood clots also.

"Has any other vaccine for a deadly illness ever met with so much controversy and resistance?"

Has any other vaccine been rushed so fast?
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It's not just allergies and blood clots, but shingles too. Also, given that they've never been able to come up with a vaccine for colds, flu variants, cancer, etc. why would you expect this batch of much less tested stuff to be some panacea?
 
Becky1951 said:
So in your opinion the Lord isn't going to help me unless I get the vaccine. 😂
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Not what I said.
However, I ask you this: what are you going to say to the Lord when asked why you did not take advantage of the resources available that could have helped save your life?
If you smoke, drink to excess and allow yourself to become grossly overweight, do you think or expect The Lord to bail you out of self inflicted harm?
 
Sunny said:
That is absolute, utter nonsense, Gaer! Why would you even want to continue spreading such lies? This article does say that 8000 people in the U.S. die every day from ALL CAUSES. There is no evidence that anyone has died from the vaccine. Here's the link:

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/9800...-misleading-facts-fuel-vaccine-misinformation
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That article directs you to another that says "VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Recording System) received 3,486 reports of death (0.0016%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine." It goes on to say a review of the deaths by CDC and FDA concluded they weren't related to the vaccine based on available information. Some people distrust the CDC and FDA, including me. They've been letting industries put toxic stuff in our food and the air for decades.
 
Don M. said:
If a person has existing health conditions that might create reactions to these vaccines....or they rarely get together with any family or friends, or they seldom venture into any venues of crowds of people, they might very well consider these vaccines unnecessary. However, if they are fairly active and healthy, and enjoy getting out of the house, getting vaccinated becomes increasingly important...given all the unknowns of this virus.

If this virus isn't brought under control in coming months, and it doesn't continue to mutate into even worse variants, I can easily see the day coming where it will be Mandatory to present some sort of ID that shows that an individual has been vaccinated before they are allowed to go anywhere.

While the numbers appear to be improving in some areas, others are getting worse. Unless strict travel, etc., regulations are implemented, and enforced, this virus will continue to spread, and ultimately result in forcing everyone who doesn't want to stay home 24/7, to get vaccinated.
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No it won't. Not in the USA anyway. Our leaders know there would be bloodshed in the streets if they even tried a vaccine passport and they don't want to lose their jobs.
 
Murrmurr said:
There's also the fact that the US doesn't have the infrastructure for a covid passport. A good infrastructure would be a national healthcare system.

Coming soon?
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When travelling overseas I have always carried my Australian passport and tucked inside it was a record of my vaccinations and the date they were administered. It was very helpful to have such a record in case I needed medical attention. I also had a printout of my medical history and medications.

I cannot see what the fuss is all about. If a COVID passport helps sort out who is safe enough to allow on a plane, and who is not, then for the next couple of years at least some people can travel freely and the rest should stay put. The alternative would be to require a negative COVID swab on a regular basis to visit elderly relatives in a nursing home or a dying friend in hospital.
 
Nathan said:
Not what I said.
However, I ask you this: what are you going to say to the Lord when asked why you did not take advantage of the resources available that could have helped save your life?
If you smoke, drink to excess and allow yourself to become grossly overweight, do you think or expect The Lord to bail you out of self inflicted harm?
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So I guess the Lord has told you that the vaccine is one of his/her resources? Why is the Lord allowing some to die from the side effects of "his/her" resource?

Do you know some people are grossly overweight due to thyroid problems? Does that bar them from heaven?

I guess your Lord and mine are different, mine is forgiving and loving, and would never fault me for doing what I believe is right for me.
 
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Warrigal said:
When travelling overseas I have always carried my Australian passport and tucked inside it was a record of my vaccinations and the date they were administered. It was very helpful to have such a record in case I needed medical attention. I also had a printout of my medical history and medications.

I cannot see what the fuss is all about. If a COVID passport helps sort out who is safe enough to allow on a plane, and who is not, then for the next couple of years at least some people can travel freely and the rest should stay put. The alternative would be to require a negative COVID swab on a regular basis to visit elderly relatives in a nursing home or a dying friend in hospital.
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I'd be cool with showing a piece of paper. Stamping people's regular passports indicating they were vaccinated for covid along with any other required inoculations is even more reasonable. The cost of making a covid stamp would be minuscule compared to what I'm sure the US gov't would spend on a covid ID program. Infrastructure and administrative costs would be the tip of the iceburg.
 
Jeweltea said:
That is starting to come out. I have read articles lately in the NY Times and Washington Post that you can relax a lot after getting vaccinated. However if people who were vaccinated stopped wearing masks, wouldn't the unvaccinated also stop wearing them (maybe lying about being vaccinated)? Of course, mostly the unvaccinated at that point would get Covid.
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That would be true - IF viruses acted according to your directions.
They don't.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/well/live/covid-variants-vaccine.html

This is a very good article from the NY Times. If you have been vaccinated, the chance of getting Covid is extremely small. Even if you get it, the chances are it will be mild. There have been about 5800 break through cases out of 75 million vaccinated. Out of those, 74 died. I think we are having 70,000 cases of Covid a day now. So with these numbers, it would appear that it is unvaccinated people who are getting Covid, not the vaccinated ones.

I am not telling anyone to get vaccinated. That is their choice, but I am glad I did. I will continue to wear a mask indoors because that isn't that big of a deal to me and we have a mask mandate anyway.
 
Becky1951 said:
So I guess the Lord has told you that the vaccine is one of his/her resources? Why is the Lord allowing some to die from the side effects of "his/her" resource?

Do you know some people are grossly overweight due to thyroid problems? Does that bar them from heaven?

I guess your Lord and mine are different, mine is forgiving and loving, and would never fault me for doing what I believe is right for me.
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You seem to be doing a lot of guessing, huh Becky1951? If you took some effort to read and understand what I actually said, all that guessing would be unnecessary.
 
Nathan said:
You seem to be doing a lot of guessing, huh Becky1951? If you took some effort to read and understand what I actually said, all that guessing would be unnecessary.
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Well then lets replace the word guess, with the more appropriate word of Assume. You assume the vaccine is a given that its a resource from the Lord. You assume grossly over weight people are that way due to allowing it to happen to them. You assume they and unvaccinated people will have to stand before our Lord and give an explanation! A lot of assuming going on there.
 
I just began a new book my nurse practioner cousin sent me; "The Virus And The Vaccine." It is largely about the polio vaccine, but could well be what we are facing today. Salk's vaccine contains SV40 virus which is a carcinogenic virus from a monkey's kidney. The government downplayed the use of this virus stating that it was only dangerous to animals and the vaccine was given the OK. Well, today, it seems humans are now showing cancers with this very virus present. I post this for those who are concerned about what is occurring today. Find out just what is in that vaccine before you agree to take it. I am appalled at this well researched book's findings. While we may have vastly reduced the incidence of polio, lies ahead for so many?

I am 88 and already undergoing radiation treatments for a cancerous nodule on each lung, so taking the COVID vaccine did not bother me. But there are many over 20 or 30 years younger than I here. Get all the facts. Demand them.
 
Nathan said:
Not what I said.
However, I ask you this: what are you going to say to the Lord when asked why you did not take advantage of the resources available that could have helped save your life?
If you smoke, drink to excess and allow yourself to become grossly overweight, do you think or expect The Lord to bail you out of self inflicted harm?
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Actually I do expect the Lord to bail me out of ANY harm, self inflicted or not. I have faith that the Lord can do anything, I am the weak one. What’s that verse the hey though you walk through the valley of death fear no evil cause I got your back verse. 😍

IMO, the Lord our God, whichever one you believe in, has bailed out a lot of people and will continue to bail them out-“ask and you shall receive”.
 
Becky1951 said:
Well then lets replace the word guess, with the more appropriate word of Assume. You assume the vaccine is a given that its a resource from the Lord. You assume grossly over weight people are that way due to allowing it to happen to them. You assume they and unvaccinated people will have to stand before our Lord and give an explanation! A lot of assuming going on there.
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All things come from God, the good, the bad, the ugly, COVID-19, the vaccine in a round about way for Covid-19 😍. The buck stops with whatever God you believe in. I assume this to be true.

For non believers in a GOD the bad things come from the mystical universe; the good things come from Santa Claus. 😂. @Becky1951 I thought you knew this. ☺️
 
Aneeda72 said:
All things come from God, the good, the bad, the ugly, COVID-19, the vaccine in a round about way for Covid-19 😍. The buck stops with whatever God you believe in. I assume this to be true.

For non believers in a GOD the bad things come from the mystical universe; the good things come from Santa Claus. 😂. @Becky1951 I thought you knew this. ☺️
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I don't believe man's greed comes from God. And a lot of money is being made and will continue to be made from the vaccine, which was rushed. Yes I know why it was rushed, but there is no reason for those waiting or not going to be vaccinate to be constantly put down, called names etc. And that's exactly what happens when anyone questions the vaccine or dare's to state they are waiting or not getting the vaccine.

And then to turn it into a religious topic, "However, I ask you this, "what are you going to say to the Lord when asked why you did not take advantage of the resources available that could have helped save your life?" :rolleyes:
 

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