Narcissist, Psychopath, or Sociopath: How to Spot the Differences

That was very interesting, Trade. I didn't know that a psychopath was ''born that way''. I'm assuming that most gang members are sociopaths.
 

Psychopaths are the worse of the bunch. No conscience, no remorse, no empathy, no nothing. They donā€™t even care about their own actions or consequences. They believe that they can lie there way out of anything. They can do the worse things imaginable, yet remain calm as if it were the natural thing to do. A psychopath may show some psychological tendencies. Their brain is characteristically different from a normal brain.

Sociopaths may show some remorse, but very little at best. They manipulate to control. They can go off in a heartbeat. They also think they can lie their way out of anything should they get caught. Sociopaths normally will have a conscience. They are more common than psychopaths.
 
Narcissist-he is the fellow that becomes really angry when you fail to do
as he wanted you too- a missed luncheon or other minor 'failures' on your part result in extreme anger, but hey are also clever enough not to 'lose it' when reprimanding you. "I am the center of the universe, how could you be so
stupid as not to realize this."

'"Cool Hand Luke," was a sociopath

Ted Bundy was a psychopath

Timothy Mcvey,-don't know. Would like to discuss this guy, but it would be
circular reasoning.

Did you note the lady mentioning personality disorders-soon if not by now,
there going to lump all these folks into personality or character disorders, because they do not know what else to call them.

The whole group is confusing.
You must have a diagnosis in order to determine a treatment plan.
A statement of merit, but it is also full of gaps.
The healing arts for these 'folks' is still dark, uncertain, stumbling...
Once a diagnosis is obtained other behaviors are not noticed, they do not fit the diagnosis.
The diagnosis must be obtained from DMS, no vacillation allowed-
the shrink has a diagnosis sheet where the disorder is listed-----
on the back of this sheet is a block where 'secondary disorders' can be entered. There just not sure, must have wiggle room.
 
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Jerryā€”ā€”-I donā€™t usually correct people, but I believe you meant ā€œTed Bundy.ā€ As for McVeigh, he certainly fitted the characteristics of a psychopath with his lack of remorse and his fixation to kill. But, I donā€™t know what a psychiatrist would label him.

One additional item worth noting is that not only adults are sociopaths or psychopaths. Itā€™s well known that there has been a few (or more) minors that would also fall into these categories. There have been many cases, just here in the U.S., where murders took place by minors and they were later tagged with the label of sociopath or psychopath by a court appointed psychiatrist. All of them have committed some really horrible heinous murders.

Iā€™m just glad that I donā€™t have to deal with the psychos anymore.
 
Indeed, it is Ted Bundy, corrected
911, not to worry, I need a lot of correcting.
Enjoy your posts as they are factual

Pepper:
Al Bundy, yea, there is probably a diagnostic label waiting for Al in
the character he portrayed. However, I liked it, until it veered to total
sleaze.
Al's behavior was 'not like us,' therefore there must be something wrong with him. Our mores allow little room for those that are different.

DIFFERENT;
I've posted this before: "The Accountant," has ten minutes of a man that
runs a home for autistic children. His statements, 'we don't have the tools,
we don't know how to treat (therapeutic intervention) these kids.'
The movie is spoiled by 'Hollywood Behavior."
I spent a few hours in a autistic center, very uncomfortable.

THOSE THAT ARE DIFFERNT, BUT SHOULD BE LIKE US
Mcvey has some causative factor that were somewhat valid; however, his response! He became a 'creature' lacking any facet of humanity.

Now, if the event had been committed by a foreign terrorist-would that change your thinking?
Yes, had it been a foreign terrorist the feelings would have total outrage. McVeigh (or Mcvey) being an American introduced puzzlement, bewilderment: 'How could he!-then outrage.'
 
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Starr likes WKRP:
Situational comedies are inane, but every once in a while, one like WkRP
is produced: Don't know why I found it worth the watch, interplay amoung
the different characters? Tight scripts...whatever the reason, I really liked it.

Dolly:
Your nation has John Cleese: His Faulty Towers, remains the best comedy
program ever produced.
Our local PBS channel ran the series about every three years, then stopped.
He is on the web, interspersed with popups, blurry, irritating to attempt to watch-gave up.
I suppose major networks never picked it up as there were not that many
episodes, not sure.
Cleese and Connie (Booth?) were original script writers, their divorce may
have stopped production...
It is a shame that 'Faulty Towers' was viewed by so few people.
 
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Somewhere back OP's, topic, I mentioned Timothy McVeigh

My sister and spouse retired to extreme rural area in Michigan: very rural, very private.
They had no knowledge that the area was used as a training area by a militia group of which Timothy Mcveigh was an occasional participate

This militia group used live ammo; my sister would be awakened by the sound of gunfire and the ā€˜thunkā€™ of live rounds hitting trees.
Sister stated, ā€˜Scared the hell out of us,ā€™ (and their one neighbor a mile away.).

These ā€˜training exercises would continue for two days or so, then the militia group would disappear.
The ā€˜authoritiesā€™ stated, ā€˜They are not breaking any law.ā€™
Scaring the hell out of old folks is a legitimate behavior-Huh?
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jerry r. garner said:
Indeed, it is Ted Bundy, corrected
911, not to worry, I need a lot of correcting.
Enjoy your posts as they are factual

Pepper:
Al Bundy, yea, there is probably a diagnostic label waiting for Al in
the character he portrayed. However, I liked it, until it veered to total
sleaze.
Al's behavior was 'not like us,' therefore there must be something wrong with him. Our mores allow little room for those that are different.

DIFFERENT;
I've posted this before: "The Accountant," has ten minutes of a man that
runs a home for autistic children. His statements, 'we don't have the tools,
we don't know how to treat (therapeutic intervention) these kids.'
The movie is spoiled by 'Hollywood Behavior."
I spent a few hours in a autistic center, very uncomfortable.

THOSE THAT ARE DIFFERNT, BUT SHOULD BE LIKE US
Mcvey has some causative factor that were somewhat valid; however, his response! He became a 'creature' lacking any facet of humanity.

Now, if the event had been committed by a foreign terrorist-would that change your thinking?
Yes, had it been a foreign terrorist the feelings would have total outrage. McVeigh (or Mcvey) being an American introduced puzzlement, bewilderment: 'How could he!-then outrage.'
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Hereā€™s the thing about McVeigh. He was a trained killer in the Army. He held a real hate for the government after the Ruby Ridge Incident and then Waco, not to mention the Army. He was paranoid thinking that they (the Army) implanted a tracking device in his buttocks.

After the Oklahoma City bombing, it had come out that McVeigh had written letters to both the Army and the Government warning them of an impending ā€œpay back,ā€ except he chose his words carefully, so as not to be considered as threatening from him.

I know that this may sound strange coming from a cop, but when McVeighā€™s writings and interviews were released, I did not doubt that he thought that what he did was right. His failure came in the way he expressed himself. No one is going to blow up a federal building or any building for that matter and kill several people, including several young children and think for even a minute that they are going to be able to convince a jury that they did the right thing.

I would consider McVeigh as a true narcissist and psychopath.
 
jerry r. garner said:
Somewhere back OP's, topic, I mentioned Timothy McVeigh

My sister and spouse retired to extreme rural area in Michigan: very rural, very private.
They had no knowledge that the area was used as a training area by a militia group of which Timothy Mcveigh was an occasional participate

This militia group used live ammo; my sister would be awakened by the sound of gunfire and the ā€˜thunkā€™ of live rounds hitting trees.
Sister stated, ā€˜Scared the hell out of us,ā€™ (and their one neighbor a mile away.).

These ā€˜training exercises would continue for two days or so, then the militia group would disappear.
The ā€˜authoritiesā€™ stated, ā€˜They are not breaking any law.ā€™
Scaring the hell out of old folks is a legitimate behavior-Huh?
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Wow. Thatā€™s spooky šŸ˜³
 

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