'Natural Immunity' Lawsuit Over COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate Ends in Surprising Result

I was not referring to that study …Israel originally released a study that showed unvaccinated people spewed viral loads 8 to ten times greater then vaccinated…that we later saw was false .

the providence study showed that we all spew the same amount of viral material , but that was flawed for the reasons I said above ..it was never cultured to see the effects a day or two later on the virus …there was a big difference in the potency of the virus
 

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ManjaroKDE said:
Passing thoughts concerning Covid. A. There have been 40+ Million cases of Covid in the US. Since one of the side effects is lack of oxygen. Should we worry about what happens to the brain when it doesn't get proper oxygen, are we going to lower our standards on intelligent tests? B. Heard the reasoning, 'That since I had Covid, I'm now immune', has medical science agreed to that? C. As for the ones claiming they are naturally healthy I'm therefore immune, should we go back and check with the native Americans whether they felt they were immune to smallpox because they were also healthy.

Covid is a game changer.
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It's negligence that there isn't a pulse oximeter provided for every household in the US. They cost around $20 retail, so imagine the bulk savings for a federal purchase. As soon as oxygen levels drop, provide oxygen. Countless numbers of lives could be saved. We've known since early on in this pandemic that there is deadly 'silent hypoxia' with Covid pneumonia and that by the time a patient feels short of breath the lungs are severely damaged. One cheap, easy to use device would alert someone to seek early treatment.

As for your question about natural immunity, Israel's data from a few weeks ago shows that it is superior to vaccine induced immunity.
 
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This is why we need immunity passports that are based on antibody lab reports as an alternate to vaccine cards for those previously infected who have good antibody levels.


Immunity passport (antibody based) covering both recovered and vaccinated

Link also has a summary of recent Israeli data showing that natural immunity has provided more protection against the Delta variant than vaccine induce immunity.
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Thanks, AnnieA. I did note that but I am also aware that although studies showed differences in immunity levels between AstraZeneca and Pfizer shortly after vaccination it turns out that after a few month the immunity levels were the same.

I also remember my mother telling me that her eldest sister, who was a kindergarten teacher, caught measles every year when there was an outbreak in her class. I take Mum's stories with a grain of salt because her understanding of science was severely limited but it is still possible that individuals' natural immunity levels can vary greatly over time.
 
AnnieA said:
This is why we need immunity passports that are based on antibody lab reports as an alternate to vaccine cards for those previously infected who have good antibody levels.


Immunity passport (antibody based) covering both recovered and vaccinated

Link also has a summary of recent Israeli data showing that natural immunity has provided more protection against the Delta variant than vaccine induce immunity.
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While this is true , measuring it is very expensive and most labs can not do the testing of immunity …the test we get only confirms contact not immunity …because the vaccine is so cheap in comparison to a neutralizing antibody test most insurers won’t pay for it .

they only pay for the antibody binding test which shows contact and is far cheaper
 
if you become ill with covid-19 and aren't hospitalized or die perhaps you will have "natural immunity". this isn't a "winning" strategy. people who haven't had covid-19 need to be vaccinated.
 

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