Neighbors out in backyard last night 1:30 am

debodun said:
I know the numbers, but if I start complaining, they strike me as the sort of people that can escalate a situation if they feel thay are being inhibited. I may start getting dead cats on my lawn or a horse head in my bed.
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Or you might find trash on your front porch - wrapped like this:
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debodun said:
They were out Monday but that wasn't as bad as last night - started about 6pm and was still going on a 1:30am. People shouting, dogs barking, loud music and a 10 foot high fire going. They'd throw something in the fire pit and shout and scream. Looked like some primitive Druid ritual. I just don't know how these people can party so much and so long and get up and go to work in the morning or why the police haven't done anything about it. The police station is like 300 feet up the street. Why do they need that fire all the time when we are having a major drought and everything is tinder dry. A spark could set grass or leaves on fire.
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Best not to have sexual intimacy if two bodies rubbing together could start a spark!
 

Sounds very bizarre, Deb. And I'm sure it's not funny when you have to live next door to it. No idea what you can do about it, other than moving, unless there is some illegal activity going on that can be (safely) reported to the police. But from your description, it sounds like the police are not interested. Paid off, maybe?
 
debodun said:
My mom went through noisy neighbor issue years ago. She even had to go to court over it because they refused to observe the local ordinance about dog barking. Her attorney then said, "Everyone is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of their house. You shouldn't have to move because of what's happening." I may also move into a worse situation and not necessarily neighbor-related.
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No! You shouldn’t have to move due to noise but the thing is that you have a home turned into apartments next door and your other neighbour you don’t get along with. His garbage is up against the fence.

These other neighbours are starting fires and sitting around them. You mentioned this many times and thought it crazy as you gave us a play by play on what is going on, which was highly entertaining but you clearly don’t like it.

Your house needs a lot of work. You dislike mowing all the grass. You dislike the ivy growing up the side of your house. You dislike the hard water that leaves your toilet looking the way it does. You dislike the stairs leading to your laundry room. You dislike that you can’t get any contractors to work on your house. You dislike that the floors are warped in places, and that the bricks under the windows are falling apart. You dislike that the home needs some plumbing and electrical work and that you have to shovel the snow from the walkway in front of your home. You dislike that you have stuff that ‘s worth money that you can’t sell. You dislike when people low ball you . You dislike the fact that the people you need to hire require payment.

You had a great house you had a chance at with an acre of land which you low balled an offer on and became somewhat indignant and criticized the realtor when your offer wasn’t accepted yet don’t understand that part when people low ball you with your goods. An acre of land is a lot of property. Your neighbours wouldnt be close enough to bother you the same way. I think it would offer relief that you haven’t yet experienced.

You appear to be OCD about what’s going on around you , or what could possibly be wrong and since you are looking for it, you find it. Unfortunately what you focus on with this illness just gets worse. If you are looking for what’s wrong , you’ll never be content.

You said yourself that the neighbours who move into the apartments are usually transients and party . This probably isn’t going to change and I doubt that you are either so this home doesn’t seem to be working for you which is why most of us thought you wanted to move.
 
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Deb, You are a strong woman to take all this ribbing.

When i was a little girl, I was privy to a conversation my Dad was having with a stranger to town.
The stranger asked my Dad, "We are just moving here. I hope I'll like this town. Think I will?"
My dad said, "Did you like the town you moved from?
The guy said, "No! It was horrible. The people were horrible.Hated it! hated them!"
My Dad said, "Well ,I guess you won't like it here either."
 
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Keesha said:
Yes I am ribbing her but I’m hoping something sticks. I’m hoping and praying that she realizes her health, happiness and contentment are far more valuable than money.
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There's a saying,

Can't teach old dogs new tricks.

It's really up to Deb to ask herself what she really wants for the next 30 yrs if she lives that long. She lived a sheltered life, never married, now in her 70s. She's always going through analysis paralysis that she let go of opportunities that would've made a positive change in her life.

Many people lack money and still manage to enjoy a full life ; Deb has more than enough than most, yet she chooses to be miserable.

Deb is her own worst enemy...
 
debodun said:
I am not out for revenge...I just think they should be more considerate of neighbors. Not everyone likes to stay up until 1am listing to shouting, shrieking, dogs barking and stoking a fire pit.
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Deb,
If I think about how I would deal with your situation, I come up with one answer.

But if I try to put myself in your shoes and think about it, I come up with quite another.

Overall, I think you are being prudent in dealing with the neighbor. You are a single woman in your 70's, and direct confrontation is not in your best interests. Normal people may party every now and then, but not with the frequency of your neighbors. Stay prudent, and this means that you are probably going to have to tolerate their behavior for a little longer. I don't think that you should interact with these people.

When it comes to moving, I personally think that you simply have not found the house that "speaks to you", and until you do, you should probably stay put. You are being prudent with this decision and you should stay that way until you are sure that you have found what you are looking for. Don't let anyone push you on this. If you were my sister, I would advise you to look at a neighborhood that has a functional homeowners association, or a 55 plus community. But the decision is yours and yours alone.

You seem to be moving at a deliberate pace in getting rid of stuff and getting ready to downsize. This can be a painful process for most of us, but those pictures of truck loads of stuff being transported away indicate that you are serious about this effort. If you were my sister, and you are not, I would simply advise you to "bite the bullet" and let more of those things go for far less money than you feel they are worth. My wife and I are facing this same question and are well aware that many things, for which we paid good money, are going to go for "mere pennies on the dollar." We don't like it either, but that is our reality and it sounds like you are there as well.

All of your posts indicate that you are well aware that you need to downsize, simplify your life and get away from maintaining a large older home. You are working on that at a prudent pace.

Good luck my friend, I think that, however halting you may be, you are still headed in the right direction.
 
Thank you for your understanding words, Pecos. I think you are very close to understanding how I operate. I am not good a direct confrontation and would be easily flustered by people that likely have a lot more "street smarts" than I do. When things get upsetting, I remember the adage: this too, shall pass. People in that rental seldom stay very long. It is just unfortunate that these particular ones are there now during the summer. It still amazes me how long and late and often they can party. There have been other tenants there that used that space, but were quiet, went inside at night and did not set fires.
 
Keesha said:
Your house needs a lot of work. You dislike mowing all the grass. You dislike the ivy growing up the side of your house. You dislike the hard water that leaves your toilet looking the way it does. You dislike the stairs leading to your laundry room. You dislike that you can’t get any contractors to work on your house. You dislike that the floors are warped in places, and that the bricks under the windows are falling apart. You dislike that the home needs some plumbing and electrical work and that you have to shovel the snow from the walkway in front of your home. You dislike that you have stuff that ‘s worth money that you can’t sell. You dislike when people low ball you . You dislike the fact that the people you need to hire require payment.

You had a great house you had a chance at with an acre of land which you low balled an offer on and became somewhat indignant and criticized the realtor when your offer wasn’t accepted yet don’t understand that part when people low ball you with your goods. An acre of land is a lot of property. Your neighbours wouldnt be close enough to bother you the same way. I think it would offer relief that you haven’t yet experienced.
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There are homes all over America that would be better to live in than the disaster Deb. lives in. As pointed out so eloquently combined with no ties & no social interaction with neighbors something like this is what strikes me as doable.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1350-Highway-289-N-Ash-Flat-AR-72513/118934214_zpid/

$142,9004 bd3 ba2,444 Square Feet
Price cut: $7K (8/12)1350 Highway 289 N, Ash Flat, AR 72513

Over 2400 sq ft over 4 acres. Berm/partial underground home-very energy efficient; only $116 last mo-1 of the hottest of the yr. New well pump; city water avail. New marathon water heater, new paint, flooring. 4 bedrooms plus family room & office. Laundry area has 1/2 bath & space for freezer. Acreage is mostly cleared w/deer stand, shed, detached 36X26 shop plus attached 2 car garage. Central electric heat/air or use wood burner which also heats water. List $ incl stove, fridge, w/d. See virtual tour


YEAR PROPERTY TAXES TAX ASSESSMENT
2019 $784 (-11.7%) $19,120 (-11.7%)
2018 $888 (+7.9%) $21,650
2017 $823 $21,650

Seems ridiculous to me to live in a disaster hating neighbors when living out the remaining years could be soooo different.
 
This weekend a pick-up truck with a big trailer attached backed into the space the party people used, but they just moved the table over. The trailer is covered with a tarp, so I don't know what's in it, but there's a pile of lumber between it and the warehouse. I hope they aren't going to build ANOTHER extension on that house.

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debodun said:
This weekend a pick-up truck with a big trailer attached backed into the space the party people used, but they just moved the table over. The trailer is covered with a tarp, so I don't know what's in it, but there's a pile of lumber between it and the warehouse. I hope they aren't going to build ANOTHER extension on that house.

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LOL, maybe it will be a much higher fence.
 
debodun said:
This weekend a pick-up truck with a big trailer attached backed into the space the party people used, but they just moved the table over. The trailer is covered with a tarp, so I don't know what's in it, but there's a pile of lumber between it and the warehouse. I hope they aren't going to build ANOTHER extension on that house.

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I contacted the owners yesterday & asked about the lumber & also a huge delivery of Red Velvet blankets, Satin Sheets & large mirrors.
They said, "We're building an extra bedroom on the house so we can run a little business on the side."
They wouldn't tell me what kind of business it is, but I saw Madam Heidi Fleiss park in front of their house.
They also said not to be surprised if there is increased traffic in & out of that room.
 
win231 said:
I contacted the owners yesterday & asked about the lumber & also a huge delivery of Red Velvet blankets, Satin Sheets & large mirrors.
They said, "We're building an extra bedroom on the house so we can run a little business on the side."
They wouldn't tell me what kind of business it is, but I saw Madam Heidi Fleiss park in front of their house.
They also said not to be surprised if there is increased traffic in & out of that room.
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Deb will not get any sleep! 🤣
 
win231 said:
I contacted the owners yesterday & asked about the lumber & also a huge delivery of Red Velvet blankets, Satin Sheets & large mirrors.
They said, "We're building an extra bedroom on the house so we can run a little business on the side."
They wouldn't tell me what kind of business it is, but I saw Madam Heidi Fleiss park in front of their house.
They also said not to be surprised if there is increased traffic in & out of that room.
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You're the man @win231 that Deb needs. Why not help her choose your lovenest? Sweet! 🥰 🤭 🤪💗
 
win231 said:
I contacted the owners yesterday & asked about the lumber & also a huge delivery of Red Velvet blankets, Satin Sheets & large mirrors.
They said, "We're building an extra bedroom on the house so we can run a little business on the side."
They wouldn't tell me what kind of business it is, but I saw Madam Heidi Fleiss park in front of their house.
They also said not to be surprised if there is increased traffic in & out of that room.
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That according to the resident is the 1st. load for a grow room in the back. He didn't say what they were going to grow. the next load of wood will be for the Heidi Fleiss specialty room in the front.
 
I am thinking about sending my neighbor Crazy Ray (The One Man Wrecking Ball) up there to help Deb deal with this group. Ray is actually very likeable, he just has a passion for destruction: loves to take down trees (and leave the stumps), take out load bearing walls (and not put in replacement beams), ... well it is a long list, but he can destroy things in a hurry.

If Debs tasked him with removing the entire house next door, I am confident that he could have that entire house reduced to a pile of ruble in a matter of 2 or 3 hours (4 hours tops). Problem completely solved, and he could be back on his motorcycle and headed South the next day). Debs would have to feed him at least once and he can eat a lot in a single setting.

Debs could sit by the window laugh like crazy, feel the revenge and take photos for us.
 
Pecos said:
I am thinking about sending my neighbor Crazy Ray (The One Man Wrecking Ball) up there to help Deb deal with this group. Ray is actually very likeable, he just has a passion for destruction: loves to take down trees (and leave the stumps), take out load bearing walls (and not put in replacement beams), ... well it is a long list, but he can destroy things in a hurry.

If Debs tasked him with removing the entire house next door, I am confident that he could have that entire house reduced to a pile of ruble in a matter of 2 or 3 hours (4 hours tops). Problem completely solved, and he could be back on his motorcycle and headed South the next day). Debs would have to feed him at least once and he can eat a lot in a single setting.

Debs could sit by the window laugh like crazy, feel the revenge and take photos for us.
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Sounds like a really ambitious guy. Probably be disappointed if Deb fed him and he looked at what someone else did to Deb's house before he could.
 
hellomimi said:
There's a saying,

Can't teach old dogs new tricks.

It's really up to Deb to ask herself what she really wants for the next 30 yrs if she lives that long. She lived a sheltered life, never married, now in her 70s. She's always going through analysis paralysis that she let go of opportunities that would've made a positive change in her life.

Many people lack money and still manage to enjoy a full life ; Deb has more than enough than most, yet she chooses to be miserable.

Deb is her own worst enemy...
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She's in her 60's... where has everyone got the idea Deb is in her 70's ?:unsure:
 
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