Netflix: when a rate increase is a savings....????

Nathan

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On Sept. 30 Netflix will be raising their rates, but in their fantasy world that's going to be a "savings"...what kind of arithmetic challenged fools do they take us for!

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So I visit my account/plan and see:

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$11.99 is what I'm currently paying, up from $6.99 originally. I'll have to pay $15.49 to have the same level of service. That happens to be a 33.36% increase, rather than some kind of 40% "savings" that Netflix is trying to spin.

Who the F_ do they think they are kidding? I don' need a slide-rule to figure it out, Google will do it for me!
 
I just wrote in another post that I am going to stick with the ad supported plan. The ads aren't very obtrusive to me. I do miss out on the 4k video but a lot of shows I watch aren't in 4k anyway. The downside is not all shows are available with the ad plan because of agreements with different studios. I will probably cancel Netflix soon anyway and switch to Max for a month or two once the season of House of the Dragons is over.
 
That rate plan you posted is interesting. My son and I are going half-sies and we are paying $19.18 including the tax. If he hadn't offered to split the bill with me, it would have been a savings anyway, because where I used to keep Netflix at least 9 months out of the year, I was planning to cut it back to 2 or 3 months just on "GP" because I think their price hike is ridiculous. I still may take a couple of months off after watching the main things we want to see. My son doesn't watch much T.V. and watches very little on Netflix. I think there were 1 or 2 things he wanted to see when he made that offer.
 
In the last 10 years, Chase Bank closed the branch that was nearest to me and then a couple of years later, closed the branch that I had moved to. In both cases, the letter informing me of this started out with "In order to serve you better.....". Serve me "better"? Pah!

OK, granted, I seldom have to go to the bank but "serving me better" does NOT include closing branches.

I don't have any outstanding loans nor do I carry a balance on my credit card, but if I did, I'd be tempted to send them a letter stating, "In order to serve you better, I'm only going to pay my bill every other month...." and see if they thought that was "serving them better".
 
If you leave NF, they never offer you a lower price to return. They don’t need to. Very few of us don’t return at some point and we pay what they demand ask.
 
I just saw my bill when I checked my credit card balance and it is now $21.59! It seems like it was hardly any time since the last time they increased it. :mad:
 
There was a magical moment back when Netfilx started streaming when it offered a huge variety of TV Shows and Movies. Plus it came out with it's first original series, House of Cards which I enjoyed, so it was on a roll. But then all the other studios recognized that streaming was the future and since then, the market has been fractured. It seems to me that Netflix is now pushing reality shows and other similar programming that doesn't really hold my interest so I've stayed away subbing to it for a few months now.
 
Netflix for me just went up to $8.99 w/ads. (was $7.99) I've been debating on whether or not to cancel, since I never watch it. I'm not really that interested in a show that's going to take me 8-10 episodes to watch. That's not appealing to me.

However, while scrolling through their exhaustive list, I've managed to see a couple of upcoming movies that caught my interest...so here I am.
 
On Sept. 30 Netflix will be raising their rates, but in their fantasy world that's going to be a "savings"...what kind of arithmetic challenged fools do they take us for!

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So I visit my account/plan and see:

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$11.99 is what I'm currently paying, up from $6.99 originally. I'll have to pay $15.49 to have the same level of service. That happens to be a 33.36% increase, rather than some kind of 40% "savings" that Netflix is trying to spin.

Who the F_ do they think they are kidding? I don' need a slide-rule to figure it out, Google will do it for me!
I was just doing some reading last night on this kind of issue. When streaming first started out it was awesome! This is what AI offered:

The perceived decline in streaming quality isn't just a "vibe"—it’s the result of several massive shifts in how these companies operate. Initially, streamers focused on growth at any cost to win subscribers, but they have now pivoted to a profit-first model, leading to what many call the "streaming bubble burst".

Here is why programming often feels worse today:

1. The "Quantity Over Quality" Algorithm
Streaming services often prioritize consumption convenience and volume over artistic depth to keep viewers from canceling.

Data-Driven Creative: Shows are increasingly built using algorithms to hit specific "niche" benchmarks rather than traditional creative instincts.

"Second Screen" Design: Many modern shows are intentionally "dumbed down" with obvious plots and simple narratives so viewers can scroll on their phones while watching without losing the thread.

The 2-Minute Rule: Metrics like whether you watch just the first two minutes often dictate what gets renewed, leading to flashy openings followed by "filler" content.

2. Fragmented Content & Rights Wars
In the early days, services like Netflix were "one-stop shops" for licensed hits from other studios.

The Exclusivity Trap: Legacy studios (like Disney+ and Paramount+) pulled their best content to start their own services, forcing everyone to rely on cheaper, unproven "Originals" to fill the gaps.

Music & Licensing Cuts: To save money, some older shows on streaming have had their original soundtracks replaced with generic music, or episodes removed entirely due to licensing expirations.
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3. "Safe" Financial Decisions
Streaming is no longer a guaranteed gold mine; services like Disney+ have lost millions in recent years.

Premature Cancellations: High-viewership shows are often canceled if they don't meet specific long-term subscriber growth metrics, leading to a graveyard of unfinished stories that frustrate audiences.

Shortened Seasons: The shift from 22-episode broadcast seasons to 8–10 episode streaming seasons often leaves little room for the character development or "breather" episodes that made older TV feel more substantial.

Cheap "Slop": Networks have realized they can get high engagement from cheap-to-produce reality TV and panel shows, leading them to prioritize this "slop" over expensive scripted dramas.

4. Technical and UI Frustrations
The experience of using these apps has also degraded, adding to the feeling of a "crappy" product.

Bad UI/UX: Interfaces are often designed by "marketing majors" to hide the "Continue Watching" tab or trick you into seeing content the platform wants you to watch rather than what you actually like.

Technical Corner-Cutting: To save on bandwidth costs, some services limit bitrates, leading to muddy video quality even for paying subscribers.

So I recently subscribed to Frndly tv. It was $83 something for a year. There is barely any programming on there and it's ALL reruns of way older shows. There's like nothing newer on there at all. So I cancelled/turned off auto renew but still have the acct until April of 2027. Of course they asked why I was cancelling and I told them it wasn't worth $80+ a year for what they were offering. I'd be better off watching Pluto TV for free.
 
I suspect Netflix made some bad investments lately. That series about the Sussexes, for example. Started off great (likely because millions watched simply out of curiosity and a million others were program critics), tanked before season 2, but Netflix still bank-rolled an extravagant Christmas special.

And on the other hand they've got a few banger series, but audiences are forced to wait 2 and 3 years for subsequent seasons.

That's just bad business. Viewers are paying for poor executive decisions.
 
Netflix for me just went up to $8.99 w/ads. (was $7.99) I've been debating on whether or not to cancel, since I never watch it. I'm not really that interested in a show that's going to take me 8-10 episodes to watch. That's not appealing to me.

However, while scrolling through their exhaustive list, I've managed to see a couple of upcoming movies that caught my interest...so here I am.
I was looking at their library last night and frankly I saw nothing that even remotely interested me. Most of it was too violent. And it looked like a lot of older stuff there too.

Plus so many of these places hardly add any new stuff and the seasons are down to 8 episodes if even that many. Then we wait for months or a year for more. I get to a place where I lose interest if I hafta wait forever.
 
This is really disgusting...

Netflix currently operates under a dual-leadership model with two Co-CEOs, Ted Sarandos and Greg Peters. For the 2025 fiscal year, they each earned total compensation packages worth more than $53 million.

We have Netflix but watch PrimeVideo mostly. Maybe it's time to "86" Netflix.
 
Years ago the company I worked for switched from a standard 80/20 health plan to a high deductable HSA. I still remember the owner explaining to us what a great plan it was because the most we would pay was $6,500 per year per family member. Cancer treatment? Only $6,500! Heart surgery? Only $6,500!

I guess he thought none of us could do math. For me with a family of four that new plan meant it was possible for me to pay out $29,996 before insurance paid anything.

His plan took away our basic health care and gave us catastrophic coverage only. Certainly no savings for me.
 
Years ago the company I worked for switched from a standard 80/20 health plan to a high deductable HSA. I still remember the owner explaining to us what a great plan it was because the most we would pay was $6,500 per year per family member. Cancer treatment? Only $6,500! Heart surgery? Only $6,500!

I guess he thought none of us could do math. For me with a family of four that new plan meant it was possible for me to pay out $29,996 before insurance paid anything.

His plan took away our basic health care and gave us catastrophic coverage only. Certainly no savings for me.
I keep looking for the advantages of the HSA, and I just don't see any. Tax-free funds if you have a high-deductible health insurance plan and the funds are used for qualifying medical services. It's too niche, don't you think?

It doesn't make sense to me.
 
On Sept. 30 Netflix will be raising their rates, but in their fantasy world that's going to be a "savings"...what kind of arithmetic challenged fools do they take us for!

View attachment 364441

So I visit my account/plan and see:

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$11.99 is what I'm currently paying, up from $6.99 originally. I'll have to pay $15.49 to have the same level of service. That happens to be a 33.36% increase, rather than some kind of 40% "savings" that Netflix is trying to spin.

Who the F_ do they think they are kidding? I don' need a slide-rule to figure it out, Google will do it for me!
maybe they used AI to calculate it for them.
 
I keep looking for the advantages of the HSA, and I just don't see any. Tax-free funds if you have a high-deductible health insurance plan and the funds are used for qualifying medical services. It's too niche, don't you think?

It doesn't make sense to me.
I'm not sure I'd call it "niche", but certainly limited. More of way for businesses to slash insurance premiums and insurance companies to pay out less. When we had 80/20 plans we still had max out of pockets limits, but we also had some cost releif right from the start. For instance a $1,000 allowed exspense cost me $200 with the 80/20, but with HSA it was the full $1,000 cost.

Not once in all the years we had the HSA plan did anyone in my family hit the threshold where the insurance started paying. I am thankful for that but with a family of four I spent a lot of money over the years on health care.

The tax free part is not what it should either be in my opinion. If your plan threshold is $6,500 per person why not make the tax deferred option the same? Dollar for dollar seems fair.
 
Netflix used to be great a few years back. They had great foreign movies, a great variety of movies as well as documentaries. Now, it is mostly junk. We presently pay $21.99/month.
We recently cancelled Paramount+, as well as Peacock+.
Up to me, I would cancel Hulu & Netflix, but my husband likes to watch those two. We also have Prime but I never see anything that interest me on that.
 
I keep looking for the advantages of the HSA, and I just don't see any. Tax-free funds if you have a high-deductible health insurance plan and the funds are used for qualifying medical services. It's too niche, don't you think?

It doesn't make sense to me.
When I retired from the county, I thought I'd just lose the 1000 hours of accrued sick leave that I had on the books. Turns out, the value of those sick leave hours were rolled over in to a Health Reimbursement Arrangement (HRA) account. I can use the HRA funds to reimburse for out-of-pocket medical expenses. It's a pain in the ass , as the website is designed to frustrate and discourage the client, as they don't want to let go of your money, which they make interest off of.
 
Streaming has gone the way of cable TV ... when Cable first came out it was ad free with good content... over time most "stations" put ads back in little by little until some stations gave you enough commercial time to clean your entire kitchen! Then it was filled with junk.. 999 channels and nothing to watch kinda thing....

Streaming is actually worse now than cable because, you have to look up every show you want to watch and see what service it's on! And now, most of them charge extra to rent movies on top of the monthly subscription price.

They just plain get greedy.
 
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