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ND governor OKs COVID infected nurses to keep working

BISMARCK, N.D. — The North Dakota Nurses Association says it doesn’t support a move to allow health care workers who have tested positive for the coronavirus but don’t have symptoms to remain on the job.

Gov. Doug Burgum supports the idea to ease stress both on hospitals and medical personnel amid skyrocketing coronavirus cases in North Dakota. Burgum says hospital administrators asked for the action and interim State Health Officer Dirk Wilke amended an order to allow it to take effect.
 

https://salinapost.com/posts/0fb7df00-1ac3-4045-8a0c-12ad57e679c4
Docs: Kan. hospitals reaching capacity; '... the entire Midwest is on fire'

Hospitals across the state are nearing capacity due to a surge of COVID-19 patients.

"We're at a crossroads, and we have a choice to make," Steven Stites, University of Kansas Health System chief medical officer, said during the health system's Thursday morning press conference. "Our choice will dictate how the next months or year goes for the health of the people you care about.

"When you get health care resources that are overwhelmed, it is not just the COVID patients who suffer. It's if you have a heart attack or stroke. Where are you going to go?"
 
KS hospitals are not as big and do not have the support of drs and nurses rushing in to help out if we get in a situation like some of these other hospitals have seen. We are in a very critical situation when the sh*t hits the fan here. I've seen an avg of 3-4 bodies every couple days making their way to our morgue. We usually meet them in the hall now. Didn't used to be as bad.

And allowing staff who've been exposed or tested positive isn't going to do us any favors. I honestly will be very surprised if I don't get it or if I get it and survive. Things are starting to go downhill here very quickly.
 

What is the matter with those ignorant governors? Have they no scientific education at all? Are they pandering to the fools who either want to keep their businesses open, or do their partying, I no matter who dies? Ours had been strict and guided by medical science from the beginning. But the ignorant greedy folks who ignore warnings have pushed our death rate to an all time high, probably prompting more restriction. We will probably find out later today at her news conference.
 
MarciKS said:
https://salinapost.com/posts/9aec6b8c-8a3d-4faf-9a8c-a3062c0e6c81
ND governor OKs COVID infected nurses to keep working

BISMARCK, N.D. — The North Dakota Nurses Association says it doesn’t support a move to allow health care workers who have tested positive for the coronavirus but don’t have symptoms to remain on the job.

Gov. Doug Burgum supports the idea to ease stress both on hospitals and medical personnel amid skyrocketing coronavirus cases in North Dakota. Burgum says hospital administrators asked for the action and interim State Health Officer Dirk Wilke amended an order to allow it to take effect.
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Amazing, simply amazing. :mad:

Time for the North Dakota Nurses Association to get off it's duff and stand up to this nonsense!
 
I'm confused. Post #2 discusses a metaphorical fire of COVID spreading. Iin post #4 you offer a link to literal fires (like house fires, I presume).

Is Kansas having a problem with massive injuries from actual fires (forest or brush) as well as COVID illnesses? Are they combining to overwhelm your hospitals?
 
StarSong said:
I'm confused. Post #2 discusses a metaphorical fire of COVID spreading. Iin post #4 you offer a link to literal fires (like house fires, I presume).

Is Kansas having a problem with massive injuries from actual fires (forest or brush) as well as COVID illnesses? Are they combining to overwhelm your hospitals?
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Sorry...that is a map of all the fires. Several now are near KS. I think the hospitals have been getting patients from that too.
 
Pepper said:
No, no, no. No one would leave themselves open to huge malpractice claims that would follow. Has to be covid to covid. It's still wrong.
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I don't know. According to that article in the first post about that situation in ND it doesn't say anything about them only taking care of Covid patients.
 
This is the situation here as of yesterday.

Our Covid rooms are starting to fill up. They are making small adjustments at first. I think they're game plan is going to be utilizing the rooms we have on site. They are making 3 more negative pressure rooms in ICU. We have 10 patients in on the 3rd floor and 8 in ICU on ventilators. I think the ones on ventilators are all old that's why they're dying. The chief of medicine says we have 31 positive test results out now and 212 pending. So we're expecting a lot of positive test results over the weekend.

Right now I don't know what's gonna happen. I just know it won't take much for us to be overwhelmed. I think things are going to be bad here over Thanksgiving. At this point it's just scary because you don't know if you yourself will live to see 2021 when you work in healthcare. Or any other essential job.

I will keep you updated.
 
Why does this fall on the individual governors? It's a nationwide pandemic and should have been handled uniformly across the country. States that had been relatively free of the illness, ignored the warnings and now are suffering from their lack of caution.

Makes little sense from a health perspective? I don't think that state or county boundaries are recognized by the disease. Now a flock of people have to die off while these states finally "mask up" and try and stem the spread?
 
DaveA said:
Why does this fall on the individual governors? It's a nationwide pandemic and should have been handled uniformly across the country. States that had been relatively free of the illness, ignored the warnings and now are suffering from their lack of caution.

Makes little sense from a health perspective? I don't think that state or county boundaries are recognized by the disease. Now a flock of people have to die off while these states finally "mask up" and try and stem the spread?
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Our system of government is a representative democracy with a Constitution designed to limit the powers of federal government. So there's no provision for a federal lockdown as @StarSong posted above. Even if there were, there's no federal level means of enforcing one short of martial law. Maybe??? federal marshalls could arrest without martial law, but there are 3,000+ marshalls for 300,000,000+ people.

The differing lockdown rules within a nation isn't unique to the US. England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are operating under different rules as are states in Australia and other countries.

As for the disease not recognizing borders, US states have the power to limit travel across their borders.
 
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I'm glad to hear that so many are happy with the handling of the pandemic on a national level, here in the US. I guess that I was wrong in even suggesting that the federal government could have come forward, early on, with strong recommendations pertaining to the handling of this national crisis.
 
DaveA said:
I'm glad to hear that so many are happy with the handling of the pandemic on a national level, here in the US. I guess that I was wrong in even suggesting that the federal government could have come forward, early on, with strong recommendations pertaining to the handling of this national crisis.
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How do you get emotion out of much needed basic civics lessons?

You asked:
Why does this fall on the individual governors?
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and got explanations. Doesn't mean that those of us who answered you are happy about any aspect of the pandemic.
 

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