NEXT possible agenda of the new world order:

MarkinPhx said:
I do understand peoples fears and concerns but I also think of the seniors who have grandkids living in far away locations and are able to communicate with them using FaceTime or another similar apps on a daily basis. Although FB can be a cesspool at times, I think of the Seniors who reach out to each other there to alleviate some of their fears and loneliness (and on this forum). Cashless society ? That started in the early 90's with the use of debit cards, direct deposit and paying bills online. People my age started our way to a "cashless" society then and it has accelerated as time goes on.

Have the companies become greedy and corrupt with all the buyouts ? Yes. I no longer have the naive dream like admiration for companies such as Google and Apple. For the most part, the tech companies have become just as greedy as all the other corporations out there. And yes, there are privacy and security concerns that have to still be worked out. As I mentioned before, my sister got scammed out of a lot of money this year on FB. But people were scammed before this tech was around, It's just a lot easier for scammers to take advantage of people now.

So while I do recognize the negatives of all that is going on, I am of the belief that overall it has improved the quality of my life. I can only speak for myself though. One thing that I do know is that this isn't all new. Those in their twenties were born into the technology that evolved quickly in my lifetime. And it keeps growing and evolving. I am sure there were many people upset when Henry Ford fine tuned the assembly line. It was revolutionary at the time but society adjusted and I have no doubt that future generations will do the same with the tech revolution.
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Henry Ford is a study of success and contradictions. On the one hand, he did believe in paying his people enough so they could afford to buy one of his cars. That was rather revolutionary.

On the other hand, Ford was a committed racist & anti-Semite. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/stories/articles/2023/5/8/henry-ford-innovator-and-antisemite

This is part of why I'm saying, can we be more skeptical of technology, please, before it kills us? Just like we should have been far more skeptical about cigarettes in our economic history.

I wonder if anyone has ever studied the Health Care Costs from 1900 to 2000 directly attributed to tobacco products, including lack of earnings due to early deaths, and then compared those costs to profits generated by Big Tobacco? Would be a good study to examine the cost-benefit analyses of all the gov't. laws made to help Big Tobacco thrive as an industry, vs. the health care costs carried by society.
 
There are many iterations of the New World Order ( NWO ). There are more than a few, and from the main ones, there are branches of ideologies that provide arguments that this NWO is forming. There are several examples at : New World Order (conspiracy theory) - Wikipedia

I share anyone's concern that such a plan is forming and want to be aware of any possibility that it could be happening. At the present time I cannot find conclusive evidence for any theory to be worried about. That is just me, I do understand how anyone could be convinced of any one of these ominous plans, and hope none of them are true.

What is most concerning to me is the rapid Excelleration of AI in all aspects of our lives. A revolution of how we obtain information and the way we organize our society is changing daily, and we can't even see it. That is the scary part for me. It is happening behind the scenes. The NWO will be totally dependent on how it uses AI. The big one for me is currency. Digital currency already is a large part of our everyday life, and more and more the administration of our money is being regulated by AI. It will be organized, and traded digitally, and it will make our experience of ownership completely different.

The NWO is forming right now, and no one knows what it is going to look like as it keeps morphing. We will try to put our experiences into familiar experiences, but these experiences are completely new. These experiences will form the NWO. Not the old way we use to do things. These are all new frontiers. We will make mistakes along the way, some might be really harmful, but we will adjust. I don't think there is any way to stop this transformation. Believe it or not, we are IN the NWO now. What are you doing with it? :)
 
VintageBetter said:
Henry Ford is a study of success and contradictions. On the one hand, he did believe in paying his people enough so they could afford to buy one of his cars. That was rather revolutionary.

On the other hand, Ford was a committed racist & anti-Semite. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/stories/articles/2023/5/8/henry-ford-innovator-and-antisemite

This is part of why I'm saying, can we be more skeptical of technology, please, before it kills us? Just like we should have been far more skeptical about cigarettes in our economic history.

I wonder if anyone has ever studied the Health Care Costs from 1900 to 2000 directly attributed to tobacco products, including lack of earnings due to early deaths, and then compared those costs to profits generated by Big Tobacco? Would be a good study to examine the cost-benefit analyses of all the gov't. laws made to help Big Tobacco thrive as an industry, vs. the health care costs carried by society.
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History is filled with examples of graft. I do not understand what is alarming about that. We can learn from our past mistakes, but we will inevitably keep making them. How we gonna stop? :)
 
I think USA style capitalism is the target of the "New World Order". Capitalism is too competitive for most. Exceptionalism is an unworthy goal to the Klaus Schwab's of the world. Those that already have great wealth can afford to preach mediocrity for everyone else in the form of socialism. Governments, Silicon Valley and the Banks provide the tools to gain insight into the masses financial and physical movements. 1984!
 
Jules said:
What places are charging for using a credit card. The only time I saw it was when the amount charged was less than $5. That was pre-covid. Little stores couldn’t handle the bank costs for small purchases.
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I've noticed that some restaurants in New Jersey are starting to add a credit card fee to the bill, regardless of how much is charged. At least three restaurants I've seen add 4%. My BFF mentioned that she noticed it at restaurants she's been to and she lives in Florida.
 
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VintageBetter said:
There is no such thing as true communism. It always, always, morphs into oligarchy. (See past and current Soviet Union).
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Exactly. I remember learning in Social Studies class way back in high school that the Soviet Union announced right at their beginning that they weren't going to be able to have true communism right at first, that they were going to have the "dictatorship of the proletariat" to get things up and running; then once things were up and running, the dictatorship would gradually wither away into true communism. But all those who had power in the "temporary" dictatorship wanted to keep it and that was that.

While it may be true that the Silicon Valley tech lords are really not different than any other "robber barons" throughout history, there is also that sometimes-true old saying of there's a first time for everything; "that never happens...until it does." And, as mentioned above, Silicon Valley does have more surveillance tech at its fingertips than at any other time in history.
 
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January said:
There seems a lot of unfounded fear mongering and 'Reds under the beds' in this thread
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Aw, she is so cute, isn't she? And kind to sick people too.

.. and unfounded complacency and ghouls skulking in every corner. Those who do not question do not deserve freedom.
 
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Just read this quote and it really struck me how it applies to this thread:

"...[W]hen elites become desperate to hold on to power, [they] can do terrible, traumatic things, and...the deep psychology of modernity produces monsters the likes of which even the sleep of reason would struggle to generate."

~~from The Holocaust: An Unfinished History by Dan Stone
 
George1959 said:
"for the greater good". This can only be a joke or you are still sleeping. Don't or won't you notice what is happening? If Dr. Aseem Malhotra as a cardiologist says that the rise in cases of myocarditis is caused by the mRNA vaccines, why don't you believe it? He is by far not the only one, there are several other physicians too.
https://twitter.com/draseemmalhotra?lang=en
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To say this doctor's positions are controversial would be the understatement of the day.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I've noticed that some restaurants New Jersey are starting to add a credit card fee to the bill, regardless of how much is charged. At least three restaurants I've seen add 4%. My BFF mentioned that she noticed it at restaurants she's been to and she lives in Florida.
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They had better be posting that fee or percentage quite clearly in the customer service area as well as on the menu.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I've noticed that some restaurants New Jersey are starting to add a credit card fee to the bill, regardless of how much is charged. At least three restaurants I've seen add 4%. My BFF mentioned that she noticed it at restaurants she's been to and she lives in Florida.
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birdy said:
They had better be posting that fee or percentage quite clearly in the customer service area as well as on the menu.
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Truth is, when looking at the big picture, it costs a minimum of 4% for small businesses to accept CCs.
I managed our company's CC contracts and know whereof I speak. CC processors pile fees upon fees.

Since the CC I use most often returns 2% to me, I use it a lot. However, if businesses start charging more than that 2% for CC use, I'll go back to cash - and will probably spend less.
 
StarSong said:
Truth is, when looking at the big picture, it costs a minimum of 4% for small businesses to accept CCs.
I managed our company's CC contracts and know whereof I speak. CC processors pile fees upon fees.

Since the CC I use most often returns 2% to me, I use it a lot. However, if businesses start charging more than that 2% for CC use, I'll go back to cash - and will probably spend less.
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I know it costs businesses to accept credit cards. I heard that American Express was the worst to deal with. Do you know from first hand experience if that's true? If restaurants charge 4% but my card is paying 5% (like it is this quarter), then I'll still use the card and get my 1%, especially if the meal is expensive. There's usually at least 6 months out of the year that I'll get 5% in categories that are useful to me (unless the 2 cards that have bonus 5% offers have the same category(ies) during the same quarter.
 
George1959 said:
"for the greater good". This can only be a joke or you are still sleeping. Don't or won't you notice what is happening? If Dr. Aseem Malhotra as a cardiologist says that the rise in cases of myocarditis is caused by the mRNA vaccines, why don't you believe it? He is by far not the only one, there are several other physicians too.
https://twitter.com/draseemmalhotra?lang=en
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No certainly wasn't a joke, was a simple statement of fact- all countries do have restrictions or laws meaning one doesn't have total freedom, one's freedom is balanced against the rights of others or ' the greater good'

And sure, you have one doctor saying something. His view isn't supported by the vast majority of other doctors though.
Several other physicans - however vast majority are saying no such thing. Why don't you believe them?
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I know it costs businesses to accept credit cards. I heard that American Express was the worst to deal with. Do you know from first hand experience if that's true? If restaurants charge 4% but my card is paying 5% (like it is this quarter), then I'll still use the card and get my 1%, especially if the meal is expensive. There's usually at least 6 months out of the year that I'll get 5% in categories that are useful to me (unless the 2 cards that have bonus 5% offers have the same category(ies) during the same quarter.
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Like a lot of businesses, we didn't accept AE because the percentages they took were too high. Only Visa & MasterCard.

Businesses don't actually deal with Visa, MC or AE, they use payment processing services so AE didn't differ from the others beyond the cost to our business.

Payment processors advertise low rates, but the fine print (and there's always fine print) for necessary reports, monthly minimums, etc., bumps them price up another % or two. Plus many processors require businesses to use their brand of CC swiping equipment, which is inevitably very pricey.
 
May I add some observations...

- No one of wealth and power got that way by being totally good and honest.
- Everyone we know (you and me included), has a side that no one sees.
- Extremists (and there are a lot of them) are detrimental to society's future.
- Understanding results in compromise, a true path to progress.
- There are at least three sides to every viewpoint - mine, yours, and the objective truth.
- Following the "Golden Rule" is always a positive step for all of us.
and lastly,
- Enjoy and cherish your world and each other, for today may be your (or their) last !!!
 
Mobilman44 said:
May I add some observations...

- No one of wealth and power got that way by being totally good and honest.
- Everyone we know (you and me included), has a side that no one sees.
- Extremists (and there are a lot of them) are detrimental to society's future.
- Understanding results in compromise, a true path to progress.
- There are at least three sides to every viewpoint - mine, yours, and the objective truth.
- Following the "Golden Rule" is always a positive step for all of us.
and lastly,
- Enjoy and cherish your world and each other, for today may be your (or their) last !!!
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đź’Ż TRUTH!
 
George1959 said:
Klaus Schwab has built up a network of politicians that follow the goals of the WEF exactly. These "Young Global Leaders" became the presidents of many countries. The word 'democracy' is a lie in this context, as the decisions are not made in the countries on their own but by the WEF, which itself is entangled with other organizations as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and so on.
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The dangerous thing is that his young global leaders became elected officials and followed the script as you have mentioned. As puppets they will work for a globalist agenda even if it undermines the rights of those they are supposed to serve, ie - the citizens of their own countries. It's a scary scenario but I somehow still feel after all that has happened the balance of power still belongs with the proletariat. What do you think?
 
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