No Urinals On New Aircraft Carrier

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Lon

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The new Gerald Ford Carrier can take a crew of 5,000 but has no urinals, just sit down toilets with stalls. SHOCKING!!!
 

I see it as a maintenance problem, cleaning up after a crew of 5,000, mostly men, would be easier if urinals were used along with conventional toilets.

Not to mention the bickering. "Who forgot to put the seat up?" "Who forgot to put the seat down?" "How do you expect to hit the enemy if you can't hit the toilet!!!"
 
Shalimar said:
I really don't see the problem? Men grew up in houses with toilets rather than urinals.
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I don't know if women have ever visited a washroom where there are urinals. They are filthy things.
Guys throw everything in there like cigarette butts, gum, whatever and they stink because they don't get flushed all the time. And someone has to clean them and that's a filthy job.

So with a toilet? All the dirt gets flushed away and heavens knows where it ends up on an aircraft carrier with 5000 crew.:cool:
 
Urinals are a "single purpose" restroom fixture, that is more high maintenance(prone to abuse) than other fixtures.

A detention center I worked at that was built in the early 90s used only regular toilets(thank you Lord!) in the inmate housing.

It was recognized by the design team that there was no advantage, and many dis-advantages to providing urinals.

Right before I retired, we started getting literature from a plumbing vendor(Sloan) on a waterless urinal...oh joy! :(
 
If you've been to the Pentagon, there are "pods" of 4 restrooms each along the hallways. When the Pentagon construction was begun, the State of Virginia still had segregation laws which required "white" restrooms and "black" restrooms. To conform with the local laws... the Pentagon is located in Arlington, VA... the "proper" number of restrooms were constructed. However, restrooms were never signed as "White Only" or "Black Only". President Roosevelt was pushing for the military to become non-segregated. That happened, officially, in 1948 three years after the end of WWII. Due to Roosevelt's desire to see equal treatment of those serving in defense of the Nation, the segregationist signs were never installed. There is a story that a Pentagon employee did label the Ladies restrooms "White" and "Black" with chalk. That was quickly erased and the employee disciplined.

We've come quite a ways. From separate restrooms, eating establishments, churches, schools, etc. to being an integrated society of many colors and cultures. Over these years, segments of our society have made known their desire to return to where we have a white supremeitist Nation. Thank goodness, those have not succeeded even though we still see it rear its ugly head today. In our lifetimes we may well have seen restrooms no longer be labeled "White Only" or "Black Only" but not even "Gentlemen" and "Ladies". If all public restrooms were constructed as it appears they are on this aircraft carrier, I see no need for gender specific facilities. The stalls give plenty of privacy. Most of us do know that no matter how beautiful the lady is, her poop still stinks! Working in "other people's poop" for over 40 years, once it the handle is pulled to flush the toilet, you cannot tell whether it came from a multi-million dollar home or a trailer park.
 
i dont think unisex anything is on board a ship... women are not using the 'head' with men present nor the reverse. during my time women were not yet permitted on a war ship, however i did work with waves at a shore station and never had any problems.
 
Lon said:
That could be dangerous. It's pretty windy on deck.
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The first time I went to sea, someone got sick up on the open bridge and there was barf down the whole starboard side of the ship, yuck. The ship was a sub chaser which is small as ships go.
 
HiDesertHal said:
I sit down too, simply because it's neater!

No wavering streams and no dribbles down your clothes.

hdh
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In other words you do it for the same reason I do. You're old and your prostate has enlarged to the point where you can't put out a decent stream anymore.
 
What do you guys do if/when you're out in the boonies with no place to "sit down" ?

I always stand up to empty my bladder. You guys can't write your name in the snow sitting down.
 
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