Not In My Backyard. Local SF Residents Raise Money NOT To Have A Homeless Shelter Near Them

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Residents in a high end neighborhood in San Francisco have begun raising money not to have a homeless shelter/office near the luxury housing/water front property.

https://sf.curbed.com/2019/3/29/18285799/homeless-shelter-gofundme-funding-sf-embarcadero-waterfront

I see both sides. People pay big bucks to live in neighborhoods like including exclusivity. On the other hand homeless people are people to.

Unless that's a gated area I don't see how or if they should stop it.
 

I understand about the loss of some people's investment/home value, but what is the right thing to do? Easy for me to say provide for the homeless, I know. I have no stake in it. But I side with the homeless.
 
This is probably all about housing values. There is no way having a large homeless shelter next door will enhance anyone's property values. After they've invested probably millions in their luxury residences, can you really blame them?
 

Just come to Houston, which has a lack of zoning laws ...

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I will say besides property values someone who buys near or on the water front wants a view. Nothing like a homeless person pushing a shopping to ruin it. Nor should they have to pass them when driving or walking to their building.

But if everybody said not in my backyard then whose backyard?
 
WhatInThe said:
Residents in a high end neighborhood in San Francisco have begun raising money not to have a homeless shelter/office near the luxury housing/water front property.

https://sf.curbed.com/2019/3/29/18285799/homeless-shelter-gofundme-funding-sf-embarcadero-waterfront

I see both sides. People pay big bucks to live in neighborhoods like including exclusivity. On the other hand homeless people are people to.

Unless that's a gated area I don't see how or if they should stop it.
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But, but, but... I though SF was so open-minded and accepting of everyone, being a sanctuary city and all. I guess they'd rather have the homeless sleeping and defecating on the sidewalks...business as usual. Besides, everyone knows that SF property is obscenely overpriced so maybe it's time for a correction. (Just playing the devil's advocate. :D)
 
Gettin’ a mite political here….
Best stick with more personal defamatory statements
Keeps the thread open

The homeless need to be close to downtown, mainly because they are mostly carless too.
There's areas more acceptable than in high end neighborhoods

Thing is, investors have refurbed the lessor neighborhoods, leaving no place for the destitute and low income to go

In that scenario, I'm siding with the homeless
 
During my college years, I supported a church which expanded to include a homeless shelter. They were located in the inner city. It was a good thing to do and has helped so many thousands of needy people over the years. I'm sorry to see the lack of essential humanity I'm seeing so much of everywhere, everyday. How sadly the world has changed.
 
A homeless shelter or facility there wouldn't be so bad if San Francisco and other cities didn't tolerate the other stuff associated with many homeless including pooping in public, vagrancy, loitering, open drug use etc. I'm sure they could make the facility aesthetically pleasing but there is only so much one can do with people.
 
"Bums" to be clear attack, beat up, rape, rob and kill the homeless. Yesterday a young bum standing on the street with his sign asking for money was too busy on his smart phone to watch the oncoming traffic to beg for free money.
 
Sunny said:
This is probably all about housing values. There is no way having a large homeless shelter next door will enhance anyone's property values. After they've invested probably millions in their luxury residences, can you really blame them?
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In the San Francisco area a modest little starter home goes for at least a million. It's no wonder there are a lot of homeless people there. If I moved there all I could afford would be tent on the sidewalk.
 
Reminds me of an old poem:

There was an old harlot named Alice

Who used a dynamite stick for a phallus.

They found her ****** in South Carolina

And parts of her anus in Dallas.
 
Aunt Bea said:
It's sad that people would rather spend money to fight the homeless than spend money to help them.

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Bea....Trouble is, how do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped? They just want to go on as they are, with some free stuff coming their way.

I personally know two, well meaning women, who tried to help two homeless guys, that were living on the local riverbank . And I mean they tried, investing their own money in living quarters . They were told by the guys to just leave us alone, all we want is some money, etc. This went on for quite some time. Finally one of the women's husbands stepped in and said this has to stop.......the women stopped, but not before one of them was pushed by one of the men....breaking her wrist.

The hard job , as I see it is....weeding out those that truly need, from those that just want to game the system & those with some compassion........jmo
 
rgp said:
Bea....Trouble is, how do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped? They just want to go on as they are, with some free stuff coming their way.

I personally know two, well meaning women, who tried to help two homeless guys, that were living on the local riverbank . And I mean they tried, investing their own money in living quarters . They were told by the guys to just leave us alone, all we want is some money, etc. This went on for quite some time. Finally one of the women's husbands stepped in and said this has to stop.......the women stopped, but not before one of them was pushed by one of the men....breaking her wrist.

The hard job , as I see it is....weeding out those that truly need, from those that just want to game the system & those with some compassion........jmo
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IMO the first step is to stop assuming that all homeless people are the same.

The second step would be to simply talk to them and find out why they believe that they are in this situation and what they need to turn things around.

Some people will try to run a con or will return to the streets several times before they finally make a transition, some may even die on the streets but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to help them.

As far as the people currently on the streets if they are breaking the law by stealing, public nudity, drug dealing, etc... then arrest them, not because they are homeless but because they are criminals.
 
A town near me is up in arms because the government plans on building an apartment building for the homeless.
the citizens would rather have a treatment center to get these people off of drugs rather than just house them.
that makes sense as well.
the homeless had a tent city there that went up in flames twice this winter. Not to mention the garbage strewn all over the place before the fires.
These places are so unsightly, yah can't blame people for not wanting them around.
 
In our state the only homeless, are those that don't want a home. We have several programs to put homeless people in homes. We have several shelters for those who want to remain mainly on the street. There are several programs for homeless vets. Restrooms are available for all to use. Never seen anyone potty in public.
 
It has been proven a thousand times over homes given to homeless end up trashed and worthless. Unless there are programs in place that monitor the condition of the homes some homeless people are not schooled in maintaining homes to their original condition. When Houston brought the New Hurricane Katrina victims here the results were catastrophic as the living quarters given were ripped to pieces and the copper plumbing and wires were stolen and anything that could be disassembled was stolen. This of course does not apply to all but homeless are homeless for many reasons and not all of them honorable.
 

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