NY State plastic bag ban, effective March 1st

Marie5656

Marie5656

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Well, New York is joining the states with plastic bag bans. Starting March 1st. Wegmans started the ban last month. They are also charging 10 cents for paper bags..saying they are donating to Foodlink (local food cupboard).
I am stocked up on the reusable shopping bags already. The thing many cannot understand is that it us supposed to reduce plastic waste, but the produce bags are still allowed.
Here is an interesting article. plastic ban. I am OK with it, and have normally used the reusable bags for some time. My only issue has been the cashiers tending to over fill them, making them a bit heavy. But it will be a learning experience for them as well.
 

There was a news bit the other day about China stopping all shipments of our recycled trash. As a result recycling has stopped in may areas of our county and all is going to landfills. I have heard of this from other sources as well.
 
Plastic waste is becoming a real problem, all over the globe....with much of it winding up in our oceans. In addition to limiting plastic bags, I would like to see a substantial "deposit" placed on these disposable "water bottles" that so many people seem to be addicted to.
 
I have my granny sacks and have been practicing at Wegman's but I don't think it is anything other than a symbolic gesture to ban single-use plastic grocery bags. As @Gary O' pointed out in another thread everything in the grocery store is already in a plastic bag or bottle.

I also need to do a little research to understand how far the ban goes, does it include stores like Walmart, Target, etc... that sell general merchandise or is it limited strictly to grocery stores.

When my stash of banned single-use grocery bags finally runs out I'll have to start buying legal single-use trash bags, go figure.
 
The grocery stores keep the fee as income, and don't pay it back to the state. It's not like a sales tax. Now who's on the dole?
 
Catlady said:
Because people on the public dole don't have to follow the rules that those who support them have to follow (the middle class).
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Hopefully this won't sound like politics, but this viewpoint really irritates me. I'm aware that laws differ from state to state, but all the states I've been in or read about have work requirements for food stamps AND do not abide by the Dept. of Agriculture's "Able-bodied adults Without Dependents" classification. Meaning, all adults who aren't disabled must work, and even teenagers over age 16 who aren't in school, and parents who have young children and even babies. So, as individuals who are employed pay taxes, there's no such thing as 'on the dole.'
 
Pepper said:
The grocery stores keep the fee as income, and don't pay it back to the state. It's not like a sales tax. Now who's on the dole?
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No they don't, at least not in CT. It's considered a tax and it goes to the State. In another state I heard it goes to Food Banks.

The other day, I was chatting with a cashier and needed to buy a bag. She said the state is "complaining" about the bag tax revenue diminishing! What nerve.
 
This also concerns me-

Those of us who started bringing our own reusable bags to stores before the ban don't always clean those bags. When my grandson had a PT job in a supermarket he'd tell me I would not believe the filth he would find (and have to touch) in some peoples bags. Some have never been washed and some have actual bits of garbage in them!

I feel bad for the cashiers having to unfold or unravel a bunch of dirty bags to put groceries into. They should all be given gloves!

Except for Adli, there's no counter to bag our own. I have on occasion just wheeled my cart out with un-bagged groceries to my car and bagged them in the trunk of my car. That works for me as long as the weather permits.
 
Here, the supermarkets and some other stores, charge 5 cents for a plastic bag. That is supposed to encourage people from using them. We have fold-open, heavy-duty cloth bags with bottom inserts which fit nicely into our square rolling cart with extended handle. I've seen people put their groceries straight back into the store trolley and put them into boxes in their car trunk.
 
I'm getting the hang of BYOB except for estimating the number of bags I need to bring with me.

I usually run in to pick up a few items and think that one bag will do it then things start jumping into the trolley or it's a mix of food, chemicals and something that could get messy like a rotisserie chicken. I've started keeping a couple of illegal bags in the bottom of my granny sacks just to be sure I'm covered.

I also wish that they would take the ban one step further and let me bag my own granny sack to be sure that the heavy items end up on the bottom and the fragile items end up at the top.

With all of my grumbling, I'm very thankful that my problems are minor first world problems compared to those faced by billions of people around the world.

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Pepper said:
"The plastic bag charge is not a tax, and does not go to the Government. Retailers are given the choice what to do with the proceeds, but they are expected to give it to good causes."
Plastic bag charge: Why was it introduced and what impact has it ...
www.itv.com › news › plastic-bag-charge-why-was-it-introduced-and-w

Probably up to the individual state which has this law, it seems.
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Yes, it's a state thing. I didn't realize you were in Britain, Pepper.
 
It's going to be a major inconvenience for me. I walk wherever I go, it might cut down on spontaneous buying. I don't like it one bit.
 
I hope it takes a while for AZ to ban the plastic bags. I re-use them for my trash and for bagging dirty cat litter. When the ban happens, I hope to buy these at Amazon


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We have a collapsible cart with 4 wheels and extendable handle. After bagging our groceries into our canvas bags, we just put the bag in the cart .. and usually a second bag on top with the handles around the cart handle. Then, out we roll. The top bag sits beside the other bag that's in the cart, side by side in the trunk.

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RadishRose said:
I've started saving bread bags and the filmy produce bags (if not ripped) to grab up dog poop if she goes in the yard and not on her walk in the woods.
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Yeah, I've been trying to figure out how to re-use those produce bags, but they won't work for the trash and the litter from 14 cats. One possible solution (for the dirty litter) is to re-use the bags from the 20lbs cat food that I buy, that should work. And the trash will have to go into the bin unbagged. In a way I'm glad this is coming since I've seen films about all the plastic ending up in the ocean, very sad for the marine life.

I've always saved the bread bags, I freeze my homemade bread and cookies etc in them.
 
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