On day 10 of the Iranian revolution, the Ayatollah has fled

Paco Dennis said:
... However, the narrative that we had to choose between "us or the fish" was a false dilemma.
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(Actually, I made more of that than there was. There were some extremists, sure, but normal people knew there was no dilemma there.)
Paco Dennis said:
Offshore wind farms undergo strict environmental reviews to minimize disruption during construction, and once they are built, they frequently become thriving underwater habitats.
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As a result of many months of debate. I remember wishing I could go with the dive teams that studied some of the proposed farm sites. Beautiful places.

I remember, too, when environmentalists were finally placated with vast stretches of sandy sea bottoms until a marine scientist pointed to a fairly long list of sandy-bottom dwellers, including one specie of intelligent octopus.
(but no Spongebobs or Patricks)
 
Murrmurr said:
No. It was debated by agencies and scientists and the public.
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Think Tanks & Policy Institutes
Research has indicated that many seemingly local groups are supported or spearheaded by larger, well-funded organizations with ties to the fossil fuel industry.
  • Caesar Rodney Institute (CRI): A Delaware-based libertarian think tank that has been a major player in coordinating anti-wind efforts across the East Coast.
  • Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF): This group has filed lawsuits on behalf of the fishing industry to block federal approval of wind projects.
  • Heartland Institute & CFACT: Both organizations are known for their skepticism of climate science and have funded aerial advertisements and billboards against offshore wind.
 
We do have is documentation that the admin sued to stop these 2 or 3 offshore wind projects because of "national security", .gov prevailed initially but in the end higher courts allowed the companies to start the wind farms, since they were already fully reviewed and permitted. So failing to stop the projects in court forced .gov to buy the companies out at the cost of 2 BILLION USD which will be added to the national debt.

Paco can you hear me???
 
againstthegrain said:
We do have is documentation that the admin sued to stop these 2 or 3 offshore wind projects because of "national security", .gov prevailed initially but in the end higher courts allowed the companies to start the wind farms, since they were already fully reviewed and permitted. So failing to stop the projects in court forced .gov to buy the companies out at the cost of 2 BILLION USD which will be added to the national debt.

Paco can you hear me???
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Wait. So the issue was debated??

Well I'll be hornswaggled.
 
againstthegrain said:
We do have is documentation that the admin sued to stop these 2 or 3 offshore wind projects because of "national security", .gov prevailed initially but in the end higher courts allowed the companies to start the wind farms, since they were already fully reviewed and permitted. So failing to stop the projects in court forced .gov to buy the companies out at the cost of 2 BILLION USD which will be added to the national debt.

Paco can you hear me???
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againstthegrain said:
Holy chit, I'm stuck down the rabbit hole w @Paco Dennis. Somebody throw me line please!!!
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Loud and clear! I just hope that $2 billion includes a senior discount for the rest of us. At this rate, the national debt is the only thing growing faster than the weeds on my back 40. :)
 
againstthegrain said:
The new "phase" of the war, "Project Freedom" is now focused on regaining control from Iran over the strait of Hormuz.
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This caught my attention this evening when I accidentally ended up watching Sky News in the UK. I ended up with a quizzical look on my face, a little disbelieving.

Essentially, they seemed to be trying to reframe the war effort. They were trying to make it only about the Strait, and since the Strait is international waters, then the UN needs to get involved. BUT - do they really think we're going to forget that the reason there is an issue in the Strait is because of the Iran war?!?! You can't separate the two. Before the war started, the Strait was open.

Honestly, this is lame political maneuvering that is completely transparent. I hope the UN stays well out of it.
 
VaughanJB said:
This caught my attention this evening when I accidentally ended up watching Sky News in the UK. I ended up with a quizzical look on my face, a little disbelieving.

Essentially, they seemed to be trying to reframe the war effort. They were trying to make it only about the Strait, and since the Strait is international waters, then the UN needs to get involved. BUT - do they really think we're going to forget that the reason there is an issue in the Strait is because of the Iran war?!?! You can't separate the two. Before the war started, the Strait was open.

Honestly, this is lame political maneuvering that is completely transparent. I hope the UN stays well out of it.
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How could anyone accidentally watch Sky News? That's like accidentally steering your car into a guardrail.

In all seriousness, I get it. I will sometimes turn on the TV and whatever is on will play. Lucky for me, it's a local channel and it's the Kelly Clarkson show. Completely inoffensive, unlike Sky News.
 
seadoug said:
How could anyone accidentally watch Sky News? That's like accidentally steering your car into a guardrail.

In all seriousness, I get it. I will sometimes turn on the TV and whatever is on will play. Lucky for me, it's a local channel and it's the Kelly Clarkson show. Completely inoffensive, unlike Sky News.
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Let me explain. :D

I have had some computer problems. It's an old machine, and it splutters and chokes sometimes. Anyway, I have my PC hooked up to my TV, which effectively I use only as a monitor. So, while my computer was off (I leave it on 24/7 usually), my TV flicked through all the HDMI ports automatically, looking for a signal. It didn't find one, so it settled into it's own operating system. That has apps for all kinds of things, and it seems to have defaulted to Sky News.

Hence - I "accidentally" had the channel going in the background while I tried (and happily succeeded) to breathe more life into the old girl. :)

Having heard it for a little while, I shall not be going back.
 
againstthegrain said:
Oh wait news is the Saudi's put the kibosh on escorting ships, "Project Freedom", through the SoH, which was then "paused." That's 3 minor powers Israel, Iran, and the Saudi's that control the outcome.
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This must drive the military absolutely crazy. Escorting ships, as was ordered, is no easy task and involves a peril of life for members of the military. Then, what, 24 hours later it's paused. So it was all for what? How's about we have a strategy put in place and it's actually meaningful. And how's about, before we order men and women to risk their lives, that we at least commit?!
 
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