Once I saw her fingerprints on the bread, it was bye bye

hollydolly said:
I hate that too... cats have filthy paws where they've walked in all sorts of horrible things including dog & cat pee, and garbage.. and then they're allowed on the counters *ugh*...
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I've always said if I wanted vermin in the house I'd just throw open the doors and windows for the squirrels and raccoons. I just saw a TV ad for some expensive single-serving dog food, and it features a dog actively drooling all over like a cup a minute. Gag.

But some posters above are clearly holier than I, though I can't quite tell whether they can levitate or merely walk on water.
 

Good personal hygiene - yes. Discretion in choosing what and where I eat - yes. Obsessive worry about germs - no. I can't imagine never being able to eat at a restaurant, friend's house, picnic or pot luck dinner due to an irrational fear of what "might" have happened. Such fear would be crippling.

We're all continually exposed to a great variety pathogens and the human body is marvelously designed to deal with most of them. And life is never without some risk, even if one tries to live within a bubble.

Years ago, I went out with work colleagues to a nice upscale restaurant in Florida. Ended up with salmonella (which, if you've never had the pleasure, is horrible). Months later, while visiting that office again, I went with the same colleagues to that same restaurant. Same result. I made the connection and never ate there again.

The point is, of the thousands of restaurant meals I've enjoyed in my life those are the only times I've been able to attribute any sickness to an eating experience.

Walk boldly through life, not on tiptoe. ;)
 
dilettante said:
I've always said if I wanted vermin in the house I'd just throw open the doors and windows for the squirrels and raccoons. I just saw a TV ad for some expensive single-serving dog food, and it features a dog actively drooling all over like a cup a minute. Gag.

But some posters above are clearly holier than I, though I can't quite tell whether they can levitate or merely walk on water.
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who ,me ?
 

Tommy said:
Good personal hygiene - yes. Discretion in choosing what and where I eat - yes. Obsessive worry about germs - no. I can't imagine never being able to eat at a restaurant, friend's house, picnic or pot luck dinner due to an irrational fear of what "might" have happened. Such fear would be crippling.

We're all continually exposed to a great variety pathogens and the human body is marvelously designed to deal with most of them. And life is never without some risk, even if one tries to live within a bubble.

Years ago, I went out with work colleagues to a nice upscale restaurant in Florida. Ended up with salmonella (which, if you've never had the pleasure, is horrible). Months later, while visiting that office again, I went with the same colleagues to that same restaurant. Same result. I made the connection and never ate there again.

The point is, of the thousands of restaurant meals I've enjoyed in my life those are the only times I've been able to attribute any sickness to an eating experience.

Walk boldly through life, not on tiptoe. ;)
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I've had it twice...once from a pub restaurant where I had shrimp... I was so ill the doctor had to come out to the house to give me injections of an antitoxin...


the second time I got it was from a fish and chip shop.... the irony being I never eat fish & chips outside of my house, but I was a guest at someone else's home, and they sent out for take -away fish and chips.. so I wasn't going to be impolite and refuse... again, ill for 4 or 5 days... never again... that was 10 years or more ago, and i've never eaten fish outside of this house since
 
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We all three take off our shoes at the door. In the summer I have a pair of white Keds I wash in the washer. I can put them on sparkling clean, get in Hubs car, be dropped at the restaurant door, eat, come home and the bottom of those shoes will be black. You don't know what's out there, and it's not dog doodle I fear, but men hawking and spitting everywhere they go.

My friends and family all tease me about my house being as sterile as an operating room, shining floors and not a thing out of place, but then they ask me how I can stand to have my dog up on the sofa, under the table at dinner time, etc. Well she's just a clean, shiny little dachshund, not a St Bernard, she's never on the kitchen counters, and I vacuum almost every day so what's the problem?

One guest got so mad at me for not putting her outside she never spoke to me again. If I had put her outside she would have barked outside the door the entire time wondering why I didn't come and open it for her, as she had been taught to do that when she was ready to come back in. (I realize now that reads like I was putting the guest outside -- not a bad idea.)

I've had big dogs that lick my face, there's no dodging an Irish Setter's tongue, and I've never caught any sickness from any of my dogs. I've caught a lot of stuff from humans including TB.

Tip: The germiest thing in the restaurant is usually the lemon slice they put on your drinks. They keep the slices in a bowl and use their germy fingernails to pick it out.
 
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hollydolly said:
I'm a habitual handwasher...my hands probably get washed a dozen times a day while just at home ...of course due to that I get very dry skin, so I have to use an expensive handcream.. cheaper handcreams don't help...
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Me too. I use one of my wifeā€™s hand creams after each washing. If Iā€™m going outside in the winter, I use Oā€™Keefeā€™s. And, even though I have a steering wheel heater on my vehicle, I also put on gloves.
 
Bottom line is we have no clue about the hygienic practices of other people, that's why I err on the side of caution when around others. Yes we are exposed and contaminated daily by a host of germs and such and for the most part are unaffected, but it's different when you witness an unsanitary action, no way do you want any of that bread after it was groped.

I remember once at a cookout watching the guy manning the grill finish a cigarette and toss it into the grill, like it was a giant ashtray. Nobody died from eating those burgers or hotdogs but I would bet most wouldn't touch the food if they knew what he did, I sure lost my appetite.

You just can't trust the hygenic standard of others. You want to believe people wash their hands after using the bathroom, or sneezing into their hand, or rubbing their dogs belly. But do they? Do you truly think others are washing before they touch stuff? Heck even I'm guilty of spreading germs so watch out.
 
C50 said:
Bottom line is we have no clue about the hygienic practices of other people ...
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Greasy hair. Green teeth or rotten. Stained shirts. Tattered shoes. We have plenty of clues. Sometimes we cannot say what someone is but we can be certain about what they are not.
 
C50 said:
I would have asked for another order of bread and wouldn't of hesitated explaining why. I make no apologies for being a germaphobe, the world is a dirty place and people have some disgusting habits.
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Well, the problem with that is even if you ask for a new loaf of bread, you have no idea how to came to be on the little plate they bring it to you on. Waiters, waitresses and kitchen staff don't always wash their hands either... And plastic gloves they wear (or not) do nothing.
 
Della said:
We all three take off our shoes at the door. In the summer I have a pair of white Keds I wash in the washer. I can put them on sparkling clean, get in Hubs car, be dropped at the restaurant door, eat, come home and the bottom of those shoes will be black. You don't know what's out there, and it's not dog doodle I fear, but men hawking and spitting everywhere they go.

My friends and family all tease me about my house being as sterile as an operating room, shining floors and not a thing out of place, but then they ask me how I can stand to have my dog up on the sofa, under the table at dinner time, etc. Well she's just a clean, shiny little dachshund, not a St Bernard, she's never on the kitchen counters, and I vacuum almost every day so what's the problem?

One guest got so mad at me for not putting her outside she never spoke to me again. If I had put her outside she would have barked outside the door the entire time wondering why I didn't come and open it for her, as she had been taught to do that when she was ready to come back in. (I realize now that reads like I was putting the guest outside -- not a bad idea.)

I've had big dogs that lick my face, there's no dodging an Irish Setter's tongue, and I've never caught any sickness from any of my dogs. I've caught a lot of stuff from humans including TB.

Tip: The germiest thing in the restaurant is usually the lemon slice they put on your drinks. They keep the slices in a bowl and use their germy fingernails to pick it out.
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actually Ice is the worst culprit....
 
C50 said:
I would have asked for another order of bread and wouldn't of hesitated explaining why. I make no apologies for being a germaphobe, the world is a dirty place and people have some disgusting habits.
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Axel Slingerland said:
Well, the problem with that is even if you ask for a new loaf of bread, you have no idea how to came to be on the little plate they bring it to you on. Waiters, waitresses and kitchen staff don't always wash their hands either... And plastic gloves they wear (or not) do nothing.
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Was it really necessary to tell him that? Do you not realize that germophobia is psychosomatic?
 
hollydolly said:
actually Ice is the worst culprit....
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You're right! I hadn't heard that one! Ewww.

I found several lists. This one has, in order:

Menus, touch screens, ice, lemon wedges, condiments, table surfaces.

They include buffets and salad bars, but that's obvious to most people as well as
the handles and doorknobs in the bathrooms which usually come first as the
germiest part of a restaurant, but I already stay away from that area.

Now that we've all thought about it, I think I'd rather "break bread" with the women who didn't go wash their hands first than the one who did, unless I watched how she managed to turn off the spigots and open the door.

I have ways of washing under hot water, grabbing a paper towel, using it to dry my hands, then use it to turn off the taps and open the door. If they have taps that automatically turn off and a drying machine that goes on and off on it's own, and a door you can open with your shoulder. That's great

Germiest Things in Restaurants
 
Della said:
You're right! I hadn't heard that one! Ewww.

I found several lists. This one has, in order:

Menus, touch screens, ice, lemon wedges, condiments, table surfaces.

They include buffets and salad bars, but that's obvious to most people as well as
the handles and doorknobs in the bathrooms which usually come first as the
germiest part of a restaurant, but I already stay away from that area.

Now that we've all thought about it, I think I'd rather "break bread" with the women who didn't go wash their hands first than the one who did, unless I watched how she managed to turn off the spigots and open the door.

I have ways of washing under hot water, grabbing a paper towel, using it to dry my hands, then use it to turn off the taps and open the door. If they have taps that automatically turn off and a drying machine that goes on and off on it's own, and a door you can open with your shoulder. That's great

Germiest Things in Restaurants
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LOL..I do that exact thing .....
 
Axel Slingerland said:
... Waiters, waitresses and kitchen staff don't always wash their hands....
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Inept said:
Was it really necessary to tell him that? Do you not realize that germophobia is psychosomatic?
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C50 said:
You don't need to protect me and my phobias, but thanks for the concern.šŸ™‚
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"Protect"? No. Prevent? Yes.

I worked with a germophobe a few years ago. One day he said that those hot air hand blowers spread more germs than any other method. I'm not going to tell you what I thought of him and I didn't tell him either. I didn't respond at all.
 
Remy said:
I can't keep these two off the counter. I don't care. I haven't died or got sick yet.

I'm more concerned with the dog crap that was all over from the people next door (now moved, possibly evicted) and the thin curved burnt broken glass I found on the stairs. I'm leaving my shoes outside, picking them up and putting them in a box. Can't risk anything on the floor for my cats to pick up on their paws.
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Cats spend a lot of time washing their paws.
 
Axel Slingerland said:
... Waiters, waitresses and kitchen staff don't always wash their hands ...
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Inept said:
Was it really necessary to tell him that? Do you not realize that germophobia is psychosomatic?
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Axel Slingerland said:
Yes, and No. Yes, because as a card carrying Food Handler (or at least I was 30 years ago) Everyone should know better, but some people either don't know any better or they just don't care. And No, because I don't speak Psychobabble.
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My personal opinion? I don't feed people's phobias. I have a couple of my own. I treat them differently. One by distraction the other by self-medication which can be "on the spot" or by preparation. I assist others by the same methods as long as I am aware of their discomfort. I can promise you that I would never tell a germophobe that waiters, waitresses and kitchen staff don't always wash their hands. But psychology is not my profession ... so what do I know? šŸ˜
 
I recall watching a CSI show years ago when the character, Sara Sidle explained why she didn't like dining out. Her reason was mostly due to the microscopic saliva that gets projected from humans mouths while speaking. So everyone from the cooks to the waitress to the person you are dining with who talk around your plate of food is leaving behind their germs. TV has really ruined my desire to dine out:D.
 
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