Opinions of UK Royal Family

chic said:
On principle I don't like royalty because I feel they live privileged lives at their subjects' expense. I agree and hope America never reverts to a monarchy.
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Did you know that the British Empire once controlled territory that corresponds to 56 sovereign countries around the world today? The Head of State for those countries, at the time of their occupancy, was the British Monarch.
 

hollydolly said:
Absolutely agree... however what most people don't realise is that generally the RF ..British or otherwise, have done this for centuries. They marry the most suitable to bear their heirs, and that same suitable wife, turns a blind eye to all the affairs..and has a nice life..

Diana was so young, she wasn't going to accept that... and kicked up a stink.. and that's where the problem lay... because it was expected as she was born on the Sandringham Estate and raised within the parameters of the Royal family..Dianas father was Equerry to King George Vl, and the Queen mother. Her grandmother was The Queen Mothers' chief lady in waiting and best friend... so it was thought Diana would be the ideal breeding stock.. the fact is she knew the rules even at age 20... when she married.. Charles at 32 years old at the time.

What the palace didn't bargain for was the huge popularity of Diana with the public, and she realised that she didn't have to live turning a blind eye to her husbands' philandering...
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Is it such a “nice life” to know full well in the 20th century when everyone else in the UK is free to marry for love and get a divorce if they are miserable, but you, at age 20-24, are told you cannot? You gave up all your rights to have genuine love and care from a spouse because you were foolish enough to believe either:

1. I can make him love me. (a common error among women in the UK and USA)
2. He will give up his affair out of respect for our family unit.
3. He would never be so shameless to marry me in public with all this pomp and circumstance, impregnate me twice, and then still live like a stray dog.

We can fault Diana for being a romantic, but since science has now proven that brains don’t really reach adult maturity until about age 24/25, can we also cut her some grace for just being too young to fully realize she was being BAMBOOZLED by Charles and his whole family system?

Charles knew what Charles was going to do. I’m sure he always intended to keep seeing Camilla forever. Problem is, as far as we know, Charles didn't bother to tell Diana of his plans prior to the wedding - IN THE 2OTH CENTURY. Not the 17th century.

I think Diana merely wanted to be loved, in public, by a man who could stand up and tell the world, “I love this person and I’m going to marry her ’til death do us part.”

I don’t care how many castles a man owns or how many affairs Diana could have if she wanted to. I think, with the pain of her parents’ divorce seared into her mind, she just wanted to have a strong family with a loving, caring partner who would help her in life - not be running off all the time to see his mistress.

Plus, she probably wanted a very good stepdad for her sons; some man to show them how to treat a woman you care about. Charles failed at that.

In today’s era, why should any woman put up with a 40-year affair unless she is 100% materialistic and just wanted the castles? But I don’t think that was the kind of person Diana was. So, she left him and that took guts.
 

VintageBetter said:
Is it such a “nice life” to know full well in the 20th century when everyone else in the UK is free to marry for love and get a divorce if they are miserable, but you, at age 20-24, are told you cannot? You gave up all your rights to have genuine love and care from a spouse because you were foolish enough to believe either:

1. I can make him love me. (a common error among women in the UK and USA)
2. He will give up his affair out of respect for our family unit.
3. He would never be so shameless to marry me in public with all this pomp and circumstance, impregnate me twice, and then still live like a stray dog.

We can fault Diana for being a romantic, but since science has now proven that brains don’t really reach adult maturity until about age 24/25, can we also cut her some grace for just being too young to fully realize she was being BAMBOOZLED by Charles and his whole family system?

Charles knew what Charles was going to do. I’m sure he always intended to keep seeing Camilla forever. Problem is, as far as we know, Charles didn't bother to tell Diana of his plans prior to the wedding - IN THE 2OTH CENTURY. Not the 17th century.

I think Diana merely wanted to be loved, in public, by a man who could stand up and tell the world, “I love this person and I’m going to marry her ’til death do us part.”

I don’t care how many castles a man owns or how many affairs Diana could have if she wanted to. I think, with the pain of her parents’ divorce seared into her mind, she just wanted to have a strong family with a loving, caring partner who would help her in life - not be running off all the time to see his mistress.

Plus, she probably wanted a very good stepdad for her sons; some man to show them how to treat a woman you care about. Charles failed at that.

In today’s era, why should any woman put up with a 40-year affair unless she is 100% materialistic and just wanted the castles? But I don’t think that was the kind of person Diana was. So, she left him and that took guts.
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Who said they couldn't divorce ?
 
gruntlabor said:
It also takes guts to stay. Bur of course why should she?
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Would you want to stay with a man who once privately declared that he would accept reincarnation as a tampon if it meant he got to “live inside her trousers” (Camilla) and be with her all the time? And remember on that last point, he was married to Princess Diana at the time," and yet was unfaithful to her for many years. He went so far as to admit that in a 1994 BBC interview, a moment of honesty that blew up in his face.
 
hollydolly said:
Who said they couldn't divorce ?
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I believe the same family pressure that encouraged Charles to marry is the same family pressure that didn’t want the scandal of a divorce.

Listen, Holly, I know you are a fan of the Royals so I don’t want to go into a back-and-forth with you about their lives. To me they are just more wealthy people who have no business with people like me (their choice) and I have no business with them. Takes a lot of money to run in their circles.

So, I don’t want to rehash all the scandals. It’s such a time-wasting activity, IMO. You’re a fan of his, I’m much more a fan of Diana because she deigned to meet with and advocate for the Commoners, and there I will leave it. I’m never going to like Charles. Sorry.
 
VintageBetter said:
I believe the same family pressure that encouraged Charles to marry is the same family pressure that didn’t want the scandal of a divorce.

Listen, Holly, I know you are a fan of the Royals so I don’t want to go into a back-and-forth with you about their lives. To me they are just more wealthy people who have no business with people like me (their choice) and I have no business with them. Takes a lot of money to run in their circles.

So, I don’t want to rehash all the scandals. It’s such a time-wasting activity, IMO. You’re a fan of his, I’m much more a fan of Diana because she deigned to meet with and advocate for the Commoners, and there I will leave it. I’m never going to like Charles. Sorry.
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No I'm not a fan of the royals per se...more of a realist where the Monarchy is concerned neither a fan of Charles or Diana particularly but I'm not anti- either.... . As a Brit I understand the monarchy more than most non Brits... Diana was young.. but not a child... she understood how Monarchic Marriages worked... she decided she would buck the trend... Diana was the first person in the marriage to have an affair, but she knew precisely how to manipulate the press to make it look like Charles was the major problem.

You say Diana advocated for the common people... just think about who she was advocating for ?... who exactly ?
 
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Didn't Diana bravely enter minefields, with as much protection as possible, of course, to show their danger to the people living under such conditions? That's what I remember most. She also seemed to like little kids. I like little kids too.

I was very taken with Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth. Surprisingly, to me, certainly not known for this kind of thing, she really touched my heart. She was devoted. Her addresses to her people were thrilling for me. She won me over. I miss her.
 
Pepper said:
Didn't Diana bravely enter minefields, with as much protection as possible, of course, to show their danger to the people living under such conditions? That's what I remember most. She also seemed to like little kids. I like little kids too.

I was very taken with Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth. Surprisingly, to me, certainly not known for this kind of thing, she really touched my heart. She was devoted. Her addresses to her people were thrilling for me. She won me over. I miss her.
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The Queen was in a class of her own. Never complain never explain....
 
hollydolly said:
No I'm not a fan of the royals per se...more of a realist where the Monarchy is concerned neither a fan or Charles or Diana. but I'm not ant- either.... . As a Brit I understand the monarchy more than most non Brits... Diana was young.. but not a child... she understood how Monarchic Marriages worked... she decided she would buck the trend... Diana was the first person in the marriage to have an affair, but she knew precisely how to manipulate the press to make it look like Charles was the major problem.

You say Diana advocated for the common people... just think about who she was advocating for ?... who exactly ?
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You love your country, holly, just as we love our mothers and always will. But we do hate to see them frolicking drunk and naked in public.
 
Living here in America, it's obvious we are fixated on the British Royals. I can't imagine how many magazines, tabloids, newspapers, tv and radio programs (not to mention web bits) they have helped sell. They are "big business" here for sure, although they don't get any reimbursements to speak of.

Have to say, Prince William and Princess Kate appear to be pretty darn special, and I wish them well.
 
Cinderella said:
Harry and Meghan in Colombia. UK too dangerous.

Inside the ring of steel protecting Harry and Meghan on their Colombia tour
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Harry & Me-again would be rushing to the UK if they could.....the fact is we won't provide them security, and why should we. Millionaires who no longer work for the royal family.. and yet want us the tax payer to pay for their entitled lives...

They're just beyond belief...

It's said he uses a lot of Coke, and I'm not talking about the fizzy pop, that's an open secret.. perhaps he owes the Colombian Drug dealers a favour
 
Found their niche, it might mean they will let up on on RF. They are entertaining and amusing in a contrived way. Have yet to meet the President, a former member of the M-19 guerrilla movement.
 
I used to think that Britain wasted too much energy and resources on the royal family. With age and seeing some of events made public in their lives I've found it somewhat interesting. Maybe it's more fiction than fact we have watched some streamed shows to completion and found them very entertaining. I'm not impressed at all by some of the events but every family has some laundry they don't want aired.
 
TennVet said:
I used to think that Britain wasted too much energy and resources on the royal family. With age and seeing some of events made public in their lives I've found it somewhat interesting. Maybe it's more fiction than fact we have watched some streamed shows to completion and found them very entertaining. I'm not impressed at all by some of the events but every family has some laundry they don't want aired.
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if you've watched programmes like the Crown.. then it's almost entirely fiction....
 
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hollydolly said:
It's said he uses a lot of Coke, and I'm not talking about the fizzy pop, that's an open secret.. perhaps he owes the Colombian Drug dealers a favour
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Would that not affect his Visa? Visions of deportation are dancing in Kate's head... roll out the red carpet for your native son, Holly... we may have found a loophole. 🤭
 
CallMeKate said:
Would that not affect his Visa? Visions of deportation are dancing in Kate's head... roll out the red carpet for your native son, Holly... we may have found a loophole. 🤭
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nope not unless he's arrested for it... and that's never going to happen...

..even when there was pictures in all the papers of him smoking drugs when he was younger pre Me-again... nothing was ever done.. but if it had been anyone else they would have been arrested...altho' I have to tell you, the most famous hat wearing past president and potential future president has said if he gets elected again he will kick Harry out...:D
 
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VaughanJB said:
Well, I'm in the UK, admittedly. But I am mostly indifferent. What I respect is the history, and how the Royal Family as an institution has helped shape the country, and how we are perceived abroad. Overall, I like it. I preferred having a Queen rather than a King.
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The Queen was the end of an era, it was always going to be difficult for Charles III, the behaviour of her grandchildren in her final years a real tragedy. Losing her husband during covid and the disgusting way the government behaved towards her; unforgivable.
 
Cinderella said:
The Queen was the end of an era, it was always going to be difficult for Charles III, the behaviour of her grandchildren in her final years a real tragedy. Losing her husband during covid and the disgusting way the government behaved towards her; unforgivable.
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I attended the Charles and Diana's huge firework display in Hyde Park. :D

Charles has some good ideas about the environment, and he's been championing them for decades. But man, what was he thinking with the Diane situation?!?! I struggle with Camilla, I really do. I appreciate he's always loved horses, but it just seems a step too far.

Still, the institution holds strong.
 
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