Outrage grows after Canadian MPs applaud Ukrainian veteran who fought for Nazis

Just another example of why history must be taught and not forgotten.

What I want to know is how old were the Canadian politicians that invited him to their proceedings. Was it someone in their 20s? The only thing those politicians had to remember that Russia was ally during World War II so what was the purpose using a WWII German veteran who fought against Russia serve?

And those SS units committed attrocities/war crimes across the board including executing allied prisoners of war. Wth we're they thinking.
 

Just another example of why history must be taught and not forgotten.

What I want to know is how old were the Canadian politicians that invited him to their proceedings. Was it someone in their 20s? The only thing those politicians had to remember that Russia was ally during World War II so what was the purpose using a WWII German veteran who fought against Russia serve?

And those SS units committed attrocities/war crimes across the board including executing allied prisoners of war. Wth we're they thinking.
This is what worries me. That Canada could have made such a mistake in the first place??? I mean isn't anybody thinking there? Don't they know history?
 
I don't know every detail, but he was probably drafted and had no choice, similar to Vietnam vets, some who were vilified upon returning home.
 
I don't know every detail, but he was probably drafted and had no choice, similar to Vietnam vets, some who were vilified upon returning home.
The SS units tended to be hand picked because they demanded a little more loyalty and expected to do a little more than the average soldier wink wink Maybe he didn't actually fire/execute on an unarmed pow or civilian but the stuff those units did it would've been hard to ignore or forget.

It's was bad enough the Canadian politician chose to honor him not taking into account history or his past. But just as bad is this ex SS soldier accepting the invitation. One would assume any survivor/ex member of an SS unit would want to keep a very low profile. I think they tried a 90 something year old camp guard over the summer. I wonder if he was specifically cleared of any war crimes after the war.
 
Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union back then, right?

I think it's intentional political gaslighting to call that guy a Ukrainian while Ukraine needs assistance to fight for its freedom and democracy.
 
Just another example of why history must be taught and not forgotten.

What I want to know is how old were the Canadian politicians that invited him to their proceedings. Was it someone in their 20s? The only thing those politicians had to remember that Russia was ally during World War II so what was the purpose using a WWII German veteran who fought against Russia serve?

And those SS units committed attrocities/war crimes across the board including executing allied prisoners of war. Wth we're they thinking.
Correction. It was not "Canadian politicians " who invited this man to attend Parliament. It was the Speaker, who invited this man, who lives in the ryding that the Speaker represents. The Speaker has apologized, and RESIGNED his position in Parliament. The Prime Minister has also apologized in the house, and on national TV.

The man in question is now 98 years old. He has lived in Canada for more than 70 years. JimB.
 
This is what worries me. That Canada could have made such a mistake in the first place??? I mean isn't anybody thinking there? Don't they know history?
"Canada " did not make this error. It was one person, the Speaker of the House of Commons who invited this man to attend the ceremony. No blame should attach to "Canada ". The Speaker has resigned his position, and made a full and contrite apology to the House. The Prime Minister has also apologized to the House, and to the nation. An error in judgement, by one person. JimB.
 
Rota, the Commons speaker, said that he alone was responsible for inviting Hunka, who lives in the area he represents, implying that neither Zelenskyy nor Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau knew about it.

“I particularly want to extend my apologies to Jewish communities in Canada and around the world,” the speaker said in a statement. “I accept full responsibility for my actions."
 
Rota, the Commons speaker, said that he alone was responsible for inviting Hunka, who lives in the area he represents, implying that neither Zelenskyy nor Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau knew about it.

“I particularly want to extend my apologies to Jewish communities in Canada and around the world,” the speaker said in a statement. “I accept full responsibility for my actions."
Well said. The House will select a new Speaker from the 341 Members in Parliament within the next 2 weeks. In the meantime, a temporary Speaker from the Bloc Quebecoise is in the chair, a Mister Plomondon. The Members of the House will vote to select the new Speaker who must be a M.P. him/her self.

For our American friends, the Speaker of the House has no political power, and their task is to maintain order in the House, and only vote in the case of a tie on a bill before the House. JimB.
 
Now that they have blown this guy's cover, he will have to change his name and move to the Northwest Territories.
If he's not extradited. Poland is already getting charges ready and/or see if they can do it. I think a 90 something year old ex concentration camp was arrested or prosecuted this summer. So he should've known to keep a low profile out of sight out of mind.
 
I'm a Canadian and I think this issue is a bunch of baloney. Everyone thought this guy was a Ukrainian war veteran and he was. Unfortunately most Canadian know very little if anything about Ukrainian history.

This guy belonged to a Ukrainian military group that went around killing a lot of Poles, Jews, etc. Why? Because the Nazis promised to liberate the Ukrainians.

I have always felt that if you don't know your history, you will keep repeating the same mistakes over and over. I am sure that the Speaker of the House of Commons did not know this fact. To him a Ukrainian War Veteran is a Ukrainian War Veteran. No so; I'm afraid.

Never mind Ukrainian history! Most Canadians don't even know Canadian history but they sure are spending a lot of time and money trying to rewrite their own history to make it suit their own political view.
 
My biggest issue is all anyone had to know old or young was during World War II Russia was an ally and Nazis were bad. I get their motivation for joining the those SS units but they traded their souls because they participated in more than fighting in what was/is now Ukraine. Didn't have to go deep into the weeds on this.

I thought I saw where one of these units basically went awol in France because they didn't like what they saw on German crackdowns on the French resistance. But if they participated in the hunt or a shootout with so much as one resistance fighter they were SS not Ukraine freedom fighters.
 
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We don't all check the backgrounds of everyone we meet.
True but if they knew he was a World War II veteran who fought against Russia that's about all the background information that was needed being Russia was a ally of the US, UK, Canada etc. Alarms, flags etc should've gone off in someone's head if they knew anything about World War II.

Unless he fought against Russia prior to 1941 when Hitler broke the Axis power alliance it's not good. Someone, anyone should've pointed that out to the speaker prior to his appearance.
 
I find Canadians are constantly outraged about almost anything. They expect a perfect world and are mad when they don't get it.

I know this as I am a Canadian but have learned that a perfect world has never and will never exist and that is my "secret" to happiness. Years ago I learned "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff" and you know, it mostly is small stuff!
 


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