Pain Management - Mainstream and Natural Treatments

[JonSR77]

Integrative Approaches to Pain Management

Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine


https://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu/resource/pain_management.html


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I have been in multiple car accidents. In 2015, I was walking in a parking lot and got run over by an SUV (did not break before hitting me).

So, anyway, deal with a lot of chronic pain.

It's not going away, but I have made progress.

What I would say is don't surrender to the idea that you are in a realm of pain that can never be mitigated. You might be, but keep trying to find ways not only to cope with the pain that exists, but perhaps to find ways to reduce the pain level itself.

What has helped me:

1) Better mattress. That made a HUGE difference! I now use a "pillow top" mattress. You can also get a pillow top mattress cover, which, of course, is a lot cheaper than buying a new mattress.

My cousin basically ended his back problems by using a Tempur Pedic mattress. I use a Tempur Pedic pillow. That has helped tons. I have heard many good things about their products. Straight from the factory, they do seem to have a strong chemical smell. I guess it is a new plastic smell. So, I off-gassed their stuff in the garage, for a few weeks, during a hot summer, until that smell went away.

2) Better sleeping positions. There are Yoga sleeping positions (thinks like sleeping with a small pillow between your legs, to straighten out the spine. If you explore these, you might find some pain relief...and also, you might wind up sleeping better due to less pain.

3) Stretching. I got specific Yoga exercises to do for my back problems and other injuries. But whether it is Yoga or just general stretching, you might want to look into that.

4) I have tried chiropractic, acupuncture and some other natural methods. all have helped some. Acupuncture with electric stim is the only thing that ends my back pain. Chiropractic really does, just kind of "snap everything into place." Has helped in a variety of ways. The limitation comes with the body falling back "out of place." And better mattress, better sleeping positions, stretching...all help to keep the body in place much longer.

5) Some folks try an anti-inflammatory diet. And very specifically a diet lower in sugar. I have tried that. I haven't made the direct connection to higher sugar being worse. But, it does make some sense. I do know that I do get various general symptoms with more sugar in the diet...for example, my allergies seem to get worse.

 

[Bellbird]

I had the misfortune to 'damage' my archilles, realitively putting me out of action for awhile, I didn't want to take pain killers for heavens knows how long, so I went online looking for natural remedies and came across "Natures Nurse" supports rapid healing of muscles, joints and ligaments with Arnica, MSM and Comfrey. Rub into the area 3/4 times a day until fully recovered. The results have been amazing, no painkillers required.

 

[Mr. Ed]

I use acupuncture

 

[PeppermintPatty]

I use THC and anti inflammatory diet as well as hot / cold pain relieving gel. The diet works but is difficult to stay on . I got a book about it. Eating properly and doing yoga daily seems to help more than anything.

 

[Paco Dennis]

I have turned to using Kratom. This was discussed on the forum a while back, and the general consensus was/is do not use it because it is dangerous. After researching this for months and joining a forum of experienced people who have been legally using it, I decided to use it. It works. It is an analgesic and has sedative effects in larger doses.

Doubters go to https://www.doublemherbals.com/ and do some research and find out from people who actually use it.

 

[Murrmurr]

I take pills. I down the morning dose with a 5-hr energy shot and the afternoon dose with a half-shot.

These make my pain tolerable for about 3 hours after taking as long as I avoid activities that require more strength and endurance than, say, vacuuming a rug exceeding 5ft X 8ft, shopping at a Walmart, walking around the block, etc.

 

[Nathan]

I have turned to using Kratom. This was discussed on the forum a while back, and the general consensus was/is do not use it because it is dangerous.

The DEA was pushing to ban Kratom after a handful of people had an adverse reaction, from taking mega doses trying to get high. I have a bottle of Kratom, have taken 1~2 capsules which helped elevate my mood.

 

[chic]

Integrative Approaches to Pain Management

Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine


Integrative Approaches to Pain Management
+++++++++

I have been in multiple car accidents. In 2015, I was walking in a parking lot and got run over by an SUV (did not break before hitting me).

So, anyway, deal with a lot of chronic pain.

It's not going away, but I have made progress.

What I would say is don't surrender to the idea that you are in a realm of pain that can never be mitigated. You might be, but keep trying to find ways not only to cope with the pain that exists, but perhaps to find ways to reduce the pain level itself.

What has helped me:

1) Better mattress. That made a HUGE difference! I now use a "pillow top" mattress. You can also get a pillow top mattress cover, which, of course, is a lot cheaper than buying a new mattress.

My cousin basically ended his back problems by using a Tempur Pedic mattress. I use a Tempur Pedic pillow. That has helped tons. I have heard many good things about their products. Straight from the factory, they do seem to have a strong chemical smell. I guess it is a new plastic smell. So, I off-gassed their stuff in the garage, for a few weeks, during a hot summer, until that smell went away.

2) Better sleeping positions. There are Yoga sleeping positions (thinks like sleeping with a small pillow between your legs, to straighten out the spine. If you explore these, you might find some pain relief...and also, you might wind up sleeping better due to less pain.

3) Stretching. I got specific Yoga exercises to do for my back problems and other injuries. But whether it is Yoga or just general stretching, you might want to look into that.

4) I have tried chiropractic, acupuncture and some other natural methods. all have helped some. Acupuncture with electric stim is the only thing that ends my back pain. Chiropractic really does, just kind of "snap everything into place." Has helped in a variety of ways. The limitation comes with the body falling back "out of place." And better mattress, better sleeping positions, stretching...all help to keep the body in place much longer.

5) Some folks try an anti-inflammatory diet. And very specifically a diet lower in sugar. I have tried that. I haven't made the direct connection to higher sugar being worse. But, it does make some sense. I do know that I do get various general symptoms with more sugar in the diet...for example, my allergies seem to get worse.

I've slept with a yoga block jammed between my legs to correct a hip issue I got a couple of years ago from shoveling too much heavy snow. It worked. It took about 4 weeks. It wasn't fast. I'm going to buy a larger yoga block to place under my knee which has issues. If I had space for a medicine ball, I'd buy one just to realign my spine and make me feel better.

I have used diet to help my health in various ways and can break a cold in 3 days by making adjustments to my diet alone. I have eliminated sugar from my diet before and DO notice feeling much better doing so. The best luck I've had with pain reduction/management is muscle relaxers. Honestly, the pain just melts away and I haven't found any food or supplement that does that. But I eat an anti-inflammatory diet just about all of the time. I swear it keeps me healthier.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

I take pills. I down the morning dose with a 5-hr energy shot and the afternoon dose with a half-shot.

These make my pain tolerable for about 3 hours after taking as long as I avoid activities that require more strength and endurance than, say, vacuuming a rug exceeding 5ft X 8ft, shopping at a Walmart, walking around the block, etc.

Is that a steroid shot.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

I have turned to using Kratom. This was discussed on the forum a while back, and the general consensus was/is do not use it because it is dangerous. After researching this for months and joining a forum of experienced people who have been legally using it, I decided to use it. It works. It is an analgesic and has sedative effects in larger doses.

Doubters go to https://www.doublemherbals.com/ and do some research and find out from people who actually use it.

I discovered this about a year ago and wasn’t really sure how to get. How does it compare with anti depressants? I wonder if my insurance will cover it. Probably not
Any side effects that you’ve noticed.?

 

[PeppermintPatty]

I've slept with a yoga block jammed between my legs to correct a hip issue I got a couple of years ago from shoveling too much heavy snow. It worked. It took about 4 weeks. It wasn't fast. I'm going to buy a larger yoga block to place under my knee which has issues. If I had space for a medicine ball, I'd buy one just to realign my spine and make me feel better.

I have used diet to help my health in various ways and can break a cold in 3 days by making adjustments to my diet alone. I have eliminated sugar from my diet before and DO notice feeling much better doing so. The best luck I've had with pain reduction/management is muscle relaxers. Honestly, the pain just melts away and I haven't found any food or supplement that does that. But I eat an anti-inflammatory diet just about all of the time. I swear it keeps me healthier.

I use a small pillow between my legs if one of mg hips drops. It definitely helps as does regular yoga. If I don’t do my yoga, I hurt.
I’m on an anti inflammatory diet to help with mild cognitive impairment. Eliminating sugar helps immensely …

 

[Paco Dennis]

I discovered this about a year ago and wasn’t really sure how to get. How does it compare with anti depressants? I wonder if my insurance will cover it. Probably not
Any side effects that you’ve noticed.?

This actually relieves the pain, and opiate withdrawal symptoms ( if that is your problem ). It is non-additive as far as I can tell. I have no side effects. It is cheap. If you are really interested PM me.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

No opiate withdrawal symptoms. No opiates. I’m on prescribed meds that bring me down but they bring me too down.

No side effects is good.

 

[Murrmurr]

Is that a steroid shot.

No. It's these:


I buy it by the case at a shop where the owner gives me a good deal on it. We've been friends for about 6 years. It's cheaper at Costco and Winco, but his shop is way closer.

 

[rgp]

Has anyone else noticed the OA med for dogs [Librela] being advertised on TV ?

I wonder if there is a human version, or can the canine version be used by humans ?

 

[Murrmurr]

I've slept with a yoga block jammed between my legs to correct a hip issue I got a couple of years ago from shoveling too much heavy snow. It worked. It took about 4 weeks. It wasn't fast. I'm going to buy a larger yoga block to place under my knee which has issues. If I had space for a medicine ball, I'd buy one just to realign my spine and make me feel better.

I sleep w/a pillow between my knees, too. Keeps my lower spine aligned.

I used to sleep hugging a pillow against my chest, too, to keep my upper spine aligned, but now I use Michelle for that.

 

[Paco Dennis]

I like to try to take part in the effects of the med...whatever it is. Notice and follow the parts that I like and avoid as much as possible the harsh stuff, although some meds work best when a harsh reaction produces a better result. It is very dependent on the user and the amount /kind of drug/med is taken. Some meds I have been on were torture. Some like a bucking bronco. Some like a nice day dream...."one pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small, but he one that mother gives you...."

 

[Murrmurr]

Has anyone else noticed the OA med for dogs [Librela] being advertised on TV ?

I wonder if there is a human version, or can the canine version be used by humans ?

You should probly research that. Just look up "Librela ingredients", and then google each ingredient.

 

[Paco Dennis]

I like to try to take part in the effects of the med...whatever it is. Notice and follow the parts that I like and avoid as much as possible the harsh stuff, although some meds work best when a harsh reaction produces a better result. It is very dependent on the user and the amount /kind of drug/med is taken. Some meds I have been on were torure. Some like a bucking bronco. Some like a nice day dream...."one pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small, but he one that mother gives you...."

 

[Paco Dennis]

Librela]

Librela™ is not an approved medication for humans and accidental injection may cause harm. Women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or trying to conceive should take extreme care to avoid accidental self-injection. Allow veterinary staff to hold and position your dog upon administration by your veterinarian.

Hypersensitivity reactions, including anaphylaxis, could potentially occur in the case of accidental self-injection. If an accidental self-injection occurs, seek medical advice immediately and show the package leaflet or the label to the physician.

 

[Nathan]

I discovered this about a year ago and wasn’t really sure how to get. How does it compare with anti depressants? I wonder if my insurance will cover it. Probably not
Any side effects that you’ve noticed.?

@PeppermintPatty, In the U.S.Kratom is considered a dietary supplement, which means there are no established FDA standards or guidelines.
Kratom dwells in the shadowy domain of substances that aren't "illegal"(yet) but not banned(yet). I bought my Kratom at a vape shop, which sells a lot of drug paraphernalia that is no longer illegal, in California.

How does it compare with anti depressants?

In the past I've been prescribed A&D drugs(Xanex) then later an antidepressant- Celexa, if I recall correctly. Personal opinion: I wouldn't expect that Kratom would be suitable as a stand-in for prescribed antidepressants. For a milder case of depression,Kratom might be worth experimenting with.

 

[seadoug]

I'm glad this thread was resurrected. I had chronic pain in my neck and shoulders for a couple of months. I wasn't sure whether or not I had injured something, but the symptoms seemed to indicated a pinched nerve. I was using a Shiatsu shoulder massager, a massage chair and a heating pad. None took the pain away. I was living on Motrin and Aleve.

Then I saw an ad for Nervive, which is supposed to improve nerve quality. I started taking it a month ago. I also ordered an Osteo Cervical pillow for my head. It keeps the neck properly aligned. I sometimes wake up with a bit of a stiff neck these days but it quickly goes away. I've also started using a "stretch cage" at the gym where I use various bars to stretch my arms, legs and back. I'm no longer dealing with the pain.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

@PeppermintPatty, In the U.S.Kratom is considered a dietary supplement, which means there are no established FDA standards or guidelines.
Kratom dwells in the shadowy domain of substances that aren't "illegal"(yet) but not banned(yet). I bought my Kratom at a vape shop, which sells a lot of drug paraphernalia that is no longer illegal, in California.


In the past I've been prescribed A&D drugs(Xanex) then later an antidepressant- Celexa, if I recall correctly. Personal opinion: I wouldn't expect that Kratom would be suitable as a stand-in for prescribed antidepressants. For a milder case of depression,Kratom might be worth experimenting with.

Thank you Nathan
It’s a natural supplement, not approved by FDA, just like all the other things that work but not approved by FDA. That fact alone won’t stop me from trying. I wouldn’t be here today if it weren’t for trying things out . If the FDA can’t make money on it, why would they approve it. If marijuana were taxed and sold years ago , it would have been legally available sooner. It’s basically government politics that keeps stuff limited that I pay no heed to.

Plus I wouldn’t be relying solely on it. I’m taking two conventional medicines now. Both that help bring me down from an excited state. They work well but a bit too well. I’m getting depressed. If this supplement helps with depression I’m willing to try it. I shall look it up today. Thanks Nathan.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

No. It's these:
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I buy it by the case at a shop where the owner gives me a good deal on it. We've been friends for about 6 years. It's cheaper at Costco and Winco, but his shop is way closer.

Oh wow. Talk about synchronizing.
I’ve been looking for a good protein for a friend of mine. Are they above or below $4 each? Why did you choose this brand.?

Thank you

 

[rgp]

I'm glad this thread was resurrected. I had chronic pain in my neck and shoulders for a couple of months. I wasn't sure whether or not I had injured something, but the symptoms seemed to indicated a pinched nerve. I was using a Shiatsu shoulder massager, a massage chair and a heating pad. None took the pain away. I was living on Motrin and Aleve.

Then I saw an ad for Nervive, which is supposed to improve nerve quality. I started taking it a month ago. I also ordered an Osteo Cervical pillow for my head. It keeps the neck properly aligned. I sometimes wake up with a bit of a stiff neck these days but it quickly goes away. I've also started using a "stretch cage" at the gym where I use various bars to stretch my arms, legs and back. I'm no longer dealing with the pain.

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So what level of relief did the Nervive alone provide ? I have been thinking of trying it myself.