Panel of 18 vote with majority against recommending Covid booster. Lacking safety and evidence

Pauline1954

Pauline1954

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** but people over 65 can get it. šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


The Vaccines and Related Biological Advisory Committee (VRBAC), a group of outside experts that informs the FDAā€™s decisions on vaccines, voted 16 to 2 against recommending the booster shots for everyone over the age of 16, arguing there is not enough evidence to show it is safe and necessary.


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Unsure how safe it is for those under 65?

But the booster vaccine is safe according to the makers of the vaccine for those over 65. Those with health issues, the vulnerable.

Yes didn't you know those over 65 are now the most expendable. šŸ˜„

And when they die from either the vaccine or a breakthrough, its easily swept away with, "Not unexpected since they had pre existing health issues".

I've read that a lot about the breakthrough cases, ""Not unexpected". But hey remember those vaccines were a saving grace for the "most vulnerable" in the beginning. But yet they knew it was expected???? :mad::mad::mad:
 
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ā€œItā€™s likely beneficial, in my opinion, for the elderly, and may eventually be indicated for the general population,ā€ Dr. Ofer Levy, an infectious disease specialist at Boston Childrenā€™s Hospital, said. ā€œI just donā€™t think weā€™re there yet in terms of the data.ā€
 
suds00 said:
people who are unvaccinated die at a higher rate than those vaccinated ,regardless of age.
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No matter how many times you repeat that lie on numerous different threads, it still isn't true.

Look at all the people who've been vaccinated, then get sick in the hospital - if they're lucky - then blame it on a virus. :ROFLMAO: Look at Mathjak who was in the hospital for months with his wife after both of them were shot with the poisons, and still insists it was a virus that made him sick for the rest of his life not the poisonous shots. :ROFLMAO:

Back to basics. 1+1=2. 2+2=4.
What goes around comes around. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
What people like you, Sunny and Mathjak need to have is a really strong shot of Logic 101. :love:

Irwin said:
Dr. Ofer Levy, an infectious disease specialist at Boston Childrenā€™s Hospital, said. ā€œI just donā€™t think.ā€
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John cycling said:
No matter how many times you repeat that lie on numerous different threads, it still isn't true.

Look at all the people who've been vaccinated, then get sick in the hospital - if they're lucky - then blame it on a virus. :ROFLMAO: Look at Mathjak who was in the hospital for months with his wife after both of them were shot with the poisons, and still insists it was a virus that made him sick for the rest of his life not the poisonous shots. :ROFLMAO:

Back to basics. 1+1=2. 2+2=4.
What goes around comes around. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
What people like you, Sunny and Mathjak need to have is a really strong shot of Logic 101. :love:
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keep blathering on. it's all hogwash you have no credible source to back up your baloney yet you'll continue your fantasies.
 
suds00 said:
keep blathering on. it's all hogwash you have no credible source to back up your baloney yet you'll continue your fantasies.
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Their fantasies are killing them like mass suicide (see Jim Jones) or even like suicide bombings because they're trying to advance their agenda by causing the government to fail in its response to the pandemic so they have something to complain about.

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but we're all paying the price. It's overflowing into other realms. People are dying because they can't get into hospitals for other issues. The anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers are killing themselves and taking down others with them. Insurance rates are going up. Businesses are failing because there's a worker shortage, partially caused by the pandemic. They're also being hurt because people don't want to risk going to non essential businesses like restaurants and movie theaters.
 
John cycling said:
No matter how many times you repeat that lie on numerous different threads, it still isn't true.

Look at all the people who've been vaccinated, then get sick in the hospital - if they're lucky - then blame it on a virus. :ROFLMAO: Look at Mathjak who was in the hospital for months with his wife after both of them were shot with the poisons, and still insists it was a virus that made him sick for the rest of his life not the poisonous shots. :ROFLMAO:

Back to basics. 1+1=2. 2+2=4.
What goes around comes around. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
What people like you, Sunny and Mathjak need to have is a really strong shot of Logic 101. :love:
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Now show us the numbers after that babbling. So what if people get sick after the vaccine? It is claimed to be very possible but what you fail to understand is they seldom need a hospital and very seldom ever die unlike the stooges that have our hospitals at breakneck capacities. The antivaccine dopes don't believe in the science to prevent the Covid but SUDDENLY do believe in the science to save their useless asses.
 
suds00 said:
keep blathering on. it's all hogwash you have no credible source to back up your baloney yet you'll continue your fantasies.
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I think I figured out where some of these people get their "news". I watched the TV channel "Newsmax" for an hour today, and that "extremist" channel is a textbook example of the misinformation floating around regarding this virus and the vaccines.
 
Well, I have never seen so many people enjoying twisting and cutting off their own air supply with a plastic bag tightly wrapped around their own heads. In other words keep on swallowing the vax is ok for those over 65 but now good for those under 65.
 
Becky1951 said:
Unsure how safe it is for those under 65?

But the booster vaccine is safe according to the makers of the vaccine for those over 65. Those with health issues, the vulnerable.

Yes didn't you know those over 65 are now the most expendable. šŸ˜„

And when they die from either the vaccine or a breakthrough, its easily swept away with, "Not unexpected since they had pre existing health issues".

I've read that a lot about the breakthrough cases, ""Not unexpected". But hey remember those vaccines were a saving grace for the "most vulnerable" in the beginning. But yet they knew it was expected???? :mad::mad::mad:
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People enjoy being part of a tribe. Not me. I dont care who thinks anything about my choices. Anyone under 65 should not get the booster because its unsafe. But anyone 65 and older its okay? Foolish and dangerous way of thinking. I'm not sure people are thinking, really. Theres a brain up there, use it.

They call them breakthrough and rare at that. Its worse than stupid. Its not a vaccine, period!
 
I don't want 18 people deciding whether or not I can have a booster if it will save my life. This crap needs to come to an end. It's BS.
 
Pauline1954 said:
Well, I have never seen so many people enjoying twisting and cutting off their own air supply with a plastic bag tightly wrapped around their own heads. In other words keep on swallowing the vax is ok for those over 65 but now good for those under 65.
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They also recently said, "Studies show the vaccine is safe for children under 12" after previously saying it wasn't safe for kids.
 
Pauline1954 said:
People enjoy being part of a tribe. Not me. I dont care who thinks anything about my choices. Anyone under 65 should not get the booster because its unsafe. But anyone 65 and older its okay? Foolish and dangerous way of thinking. I'm not sure people are thinking, really. Theres a brain up there, use it.

They call them breakthrough and rare at that. Its worse than stupid. Its not a vaccine, period!
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me thinks thou dost protest too much. you are part of a tribe whether you like it or not.
 
Please, Please, Please!!! If you can afford it, have your antibody levels tested before a booster. Don't get one until your antibodies start to decrease showing you actually need one.

As more data comes in, there are increasing incidences of adverse cardiac reactions to vaccines including myocarditis and pericarditis. Most recent data is from the University of Ottowa Heart Institute that is awaiting peer review.
 
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win231 said:
They also recently said, "Studies show the vaccine is safe for children under 12" after previously saying it wasn't safe for kids.
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suds00 said:
me thinks thou dost protest too much. you are part of a tribe whether you like it or not.
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I dont protest enough! Thats why we are in this snake pit. And I have that right to protest. šŸ¤— I wish more would protest. But hey we will see the results of not protesting after we are affected with no medical professionals in,the hospital. All those medical doctors, nurses and personnel are protesting and giving up their careers. I support their choice not to get it as I support your choice to get the vax. But I dont support the government heavy handed unAmerican manner this administration is forcing onto us. Wrong very wrong.

Dont let them fool you.

Here's the latest maneuver and slight of hand.

***The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is Comirnaty, the Moderna vaccine will be named SpikeVax, and the AstraZeneca vaccine will be named Vaxzevria,ā€ Health Canada said in a tweet Thursday.
 
Don M. said:
I think I figured out where some of these people get their "news". I watched the TV channel "Newsmax" for an hour today, and that "extremist" channel is a textbook example of the misinformation floating around regarding this virus and the vaccines.
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Thats your mind set going in and mindset coming away. What did you learn that you didn't know before?
 
The CDC has approved third dose vaccinations for immunocompromised patients. Third dose vaccination is currently limited to those patients who received a Pfizer or Moderna vaccination ā€“ it does not include J&J vaccine recipients at this time.

ā€œImmunocompromisedā€ includes patients who:

Are receiving treatments for solid tumors or blood cancers
Are taking immunosuppressing medications after a solid organ transplant
Are within 2 years of receiving CAR-T therapy or a stem cell transplant
Have primary immunodeficiencies -- rare genetic disorders that prevent the immune system from working properly
Diagnosed with advanced or untreated HIV
Are taking high-dose corticosteroids (more than 20 milligrams of prednisone or its equivalent daily), alkylating agents, antimetabolites, chemotherapy, TNF blockers or other immunomodulating or immunosuppressing biologics
Patients with chronic renal disease, live without a spleen, or who are receiving dialysis may also qualify.

There's no mention of age in the CDCs recommendation.
 
AnnieA said:
Please, Please, Please!!! If you can afford it, have your antibody levels tested before a booster. Don't get one until your antibodies start to decrease showing you actually need one.

As more data comes in, there are increasing incidences of adverse cardiac reactions to vaccines including myocarditis and pericarditis. Most recent data is from the University of Ottowa Heart Institute that is awaiting peer review.
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Yes. Get those antibodies tested.

In an attempt to manipulate beliefs on the pfizer, moderna and johnson and johnson...... they change the names by disassociating the drug companies negative reputation by giving the shots a new name. šŸ™„

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is Comirnaty, the Moderna vaccine will be named SpikeVax, and the AstraZeneca vaccine will be named Vaxzevria,ā€ Health Canada said in a tweet Thursday.
 


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