Parkinson's Disease and Connection to Statin Drugs

hollydolly said:
Jeez nuts isn't it?...and you all have to pay for that too I suspect?
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Of course, we pay, we all pay somehow, even your country. And the pharma companies and tech industries are driving the U.S. stock market to where it is today...huge profits. Money is the god.
 

jaminhealth said:
When I think of my own parents who lived into their 90's and I'm 80 now, and I don't ever recall the word cholesterol back when I was growing up. I doubt my parents ever had labs for cholesterol even if they did them. We had a huge pharma explosion probably 30-40 yrs ago and I've often wondered what came first did they invent the drug first and then make a health issue to push the drug or the other way around, which came first.
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Yep. And not only that, but the "thresholds" for diagnosis have been lowered for many health problems. The minimum blood glucose for diabetes diagnosis was lowered, the maximum blood pressure levels lowered, etc. Making millions of people suddenly be diagnosed diabetic or need blood pressure medication. Quite the coincidence, huh?
 
And what’s really sad is that all other practitioners have to honour and respect a doctor’s decision even if they know it’s wrong. Doctors RULE and big pharm are the ones scratching their backs. When taking courses in nutrition we were constantly told never to go against a doctor’s decision or you could lose your licence. It’s a very protected and lucrative business.
 

C'est Moi said:
Yep. And not only that, but the "thresholds" for diagnosis have been lowered for many health problems. The minimum blood glucose for diabetes diagnosis was lowered, the maximum blood pressure levels lowered, etc. Making millions of people suddenly be diagnosed diabetic or need blood pressure medication. Quite the coincidence, huh?
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Oh so the B.G. for diabetes was lowered too...I never paid much attention to that until I joined another group and they have a big diabetic group of members. I knew BP keeps getting lowered...gotta have some rhyme and reason to it all, as I don't believe docs and pharma really care about people.
 
Keesha said:
And what’s really sad is that all other practitioners have to honour and respect a doctor’s decision even if they know it’s wrong. Doctors RULE and big pharm are the ones scratching their backs. When taking courses in nutrition we were constantly told never to go against a doctor’s decision or you could lose your licence. It’s a very protected and lucrative business.
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Many MD's who worked outside the rigid box of pharma often lost their medical licenses and had to start over in other medical areas, like going to naturopathic practices. One in our town is a good example. And then there is a long list of "alternative" MD's who have ended up dead. Those allopathic must be so brainwashed in medical schools.

I see only an integrative MD and only about once a year and when there could be an issue that might be brewing we go for alternatives before she ever goes for a drug.

Like if we felt cholesterol was an issue brewing, which it's not, she would start with niacin supplements and I take a couple anyway especially for arthritis.
 
Here in Canada the monopoly is even worse since our health care is paid for by the government federally. Trying to sue a Canadian doctor isn’t totally impossible but it’s so rare and hardly ever happens. Their insurance covers their butts.
My previous GP got part of his licence revoked for over prescribing dangerous narcotics. Instead of revoking his licence they just clipped his wings some. He couldn’t prescribe certain drugs but still stayed a licensed drug dealer until he retired and then when he did he didn’t tell anyone. Just left and closed his office. Poof gone.

The insurance doctors have is almost fail proof.
 
I just came thru a staph infection in my knee which kept me in hospital/rehab(s) 3 of them, long saga, and it was the fault of the attending hospital doctors not doing the right test to get to the infection. I went over 2.5 months with a raging infection and finally was given an MRI which found the infection and then 2.5 months of IV abx drugs and a knee clean out...And I considered some kind of lawsuit but the attorneys I talked to said "one has to lose a limb or almost be dead to get anywhere there".....
 
jaminhealth said:
I just came thru a staph infection in my knee which kept me in hospital/rehab(s) 3 of them, long saga, and it was the fault of the attending hospital doctors not doing the right test to get to the infection. I went over 2.5 months with a raging infection and finally was given an MRI which found the infection and then 2.5 months of IV abx drugs and a knee clean out...And I considered some kind of lawsuit but the attorneys I talked to said "one has to lose a limb or almost be dead to get anywhere there".....
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Precisely and it’s worse here tenfold due to federally funded healthcare.
They RULE ! It’s a monopoly for certain. Like you mentioned already, money talks.
 
jaminhealth said:
Oh so the B.G. for diabetes was lowered too...I never paid much attention to that until I joined another group and they have a big diabetic group of members. I knew BP keeps getting lowered...gotta have some rhyme and reason to it all, as I don't believe docs and pharma really care about people.
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"In 1997, the American Diabetes Association (ADA) and the federal government lowered the per se standard for diagnosing diabetes from a fasting blood glucose level of 140 mg/dL to 126 mg/dL.7 The CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report notes that "the potential impact on the prevalence estimates of the change in diagnosis of diabetes adopted by the ADA in 1997 should be accounted for." However, the CDC's estimate of a 61 percent increase fails to account for changes in how diabetes is diagnosed."

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Keesha said:
I think one has to be very careful when presenting info that we don’t frighten members who are taking prescription drugs that we don’t agree with. We don’t know all the information about these members and don’t want to discourage people from taking medication that could otherwise be saving their lives.
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I agree.
 
I used to take statins which were the cause of an ailment. It is a complaint that I have not yet seen mentioned in these letters. My problem caused by statins is peripheral neuropathy, PN for short. Now you know where my username came from. It usually starts in the toes and then the legs. There is no cure for PN. I am lucky that I am not severely affected by it but I do know of people that have been reduced to wheelchairs within six months.
 
peripheral said:
I used to take statins which were the cause of an ailment. It is a complaint that I have not yet seen mentioned in these letters. My problem caused by statins is peripheral neuropathy, PN for short. Now you know where my username came from. It usually starts in the toes and then the legs. There is no cure for PN. I am lucky that I am not severely affected by it but I do know of people that have been reduced to wheelchairs within six months.
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"I used to take statins"
I assume you no longer do, stopping didn't help your PN? Has the condition lessened?
 
hollydolly said:
Yes we pay, but not as much as you, and not for drugs we don't need!!!
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America was NOT built on social medicine so at this point I don't know if it would ever happen here. It's been tried believe me, but also we have a population of 300million+ and I believe your country about 60million or so, maybe all of Europe is lower population than the U.S. I have looked at those figures and just now Canada has only 30million compared to the U.S. with over 300M.

Plus our country spends/wastes trillions on defense and I'm not for all that but again our forefathrs and what has taken place in the U.S.

Medicare and Med-Cal is as close as we've gotten so far. Medicare kicks in when we turn 65.....it's been great in my life for the 15 yrs I've been on it so far.
 
peripheral said:
I used to take statins which were the cause of an ailment. It is a complaint that I have not yet seen mentioned in these letters. My problem caused by statins is peripheral neuropathy, PN for short. Now you know where my username came from. It usually starts in the toes and then the legs. There is no cure for PN. I am lucky that I am not severely affected by it but I do know of people that have been reduced to wheelchairs within six months.
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There is a lot of management for PN and reduction of it's pain, etc. Alpha Lipoic Acid is one used by many with PN, ALA... it's OTC... Grape Seed Ex also helps reduce the mess of PN. I deal with it but I manage as I read and research and follow a PN group and I've never taken statins...my damage is from surgery, hip replacement and then knee damage.
 
On the cholesterol fear, here are some comments from a member on another group:

(((There have been studies showing that cholesterol that you eat doesn't do much of anything for what your own readings are.. Leg pains are a common problem associated with statins and can be permanent so get him to stay off statins since he's prone to that. The longest living people on the planet have high cholesterol and lowering it has no sway on having heart attacks and strokes. They are not related at all.

Sugar and grains cause inflammation which causes heart attacks. Go low carb.)))
 
Forget prescribed statins! Want natural statins in your diet? Take Red Yeast Rice. I cut my trigs in half, in one month's time. My doc had his nurse call me to tell me he'd never doubt me, again.
 
treeguy64 said:
Forget prescribed statins! Want natural statins in your diet? Take Red Yeast Rice. I cut my trigs in half, in one month's time. My doc had his nurse call me to tell me he'd never doubt me, again.
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And many work with Niacin and get good results in lowering what they feel is an issue with cholesterol, which we NEED.


(((There have been studies showing that cholesterol that you eat doesn't do much of anything for what your own readings are.. Leg pains are a common problem associated with statins and can be permanent so get him to stay off statins since he's prone to that. The longest living people on the planet have high cholesterol and lowering it has no sway on having heart attacks and strokes. They are not related at all.

Sugar and grains cause inflammation which causes heart attacks. Go low carb.)))


I also believe SMOKING is a huge heart killer.
 
Placebo effect

Besides the fact that one could be sued for contradicting a doctors advice, more importantly is the placebo effect. The mind is exceptionally powerful and in studies, the placebo effect rated approximately 35%effective in people’s recovery, proving that people ‘need’ to believe and have faith in their healing.

Some people prefer holistic methods, others prefer conventional and I think it’s extremely important to value and respect whatever method people choose for themselves without judgment. It’s THEIR choice and knocking their choice is undermining THEiR ability to make decisions for themselves which is a disservice in itself.
 

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