People are boycotting Costco for requiring shoppers to wear masks in stores.

Sunny said:
But there is a loophole. It says that people are excused from wearing masks if they have a medical condition that precludes it. So all they have to do is say, "I have a medical condition." Or are they supposed to bring a note from their doctor?

How on earth could this ever be implemented?

Having said that, I have to add: The more obstacles people put up as barriers to fighting this illness, the longer the illness (and the rules and regulations) will go on. Maybe these people should just grow up, and stop venting their frustration in the wrong direction. If they are carrying the virus (and can be doing that with no symptoms) and cough or sneeze near somebody else, and they have no mask on, they are practically making sure that they are infecting that other person. Is it really worth doing that just to make some childish point about not being forced to wear a mask?

I say, let them stay home, or march around in the street demonstrating, which is what they seem to enjoy doing.
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I am one of those people who have a medical condition which prevents me from wearing a mask. There are NO stores I am allowed to go into anymore because of this. Luckily my best friend is obliging and does my grocery shopping, but I absolutely hate this. It's getting hot here and sitting in the car waiting is unpleasant.

Legally, stores do not have the right to deny food or medicine to shoppers who cannot wear a mask. They cannot require a note from the doctor either, but you would have to make a scene upon entering the store and they would have to get your medicine or groceries for you and bring them to your car which sounds more complicated and time consuming for everyone.

I haven't yet reached the point of openly arguing, but I'm sure it's in my future as time as drags on and this continues or intensifies unless I travel to another state to buy groceries which I am considering.

To make it all worse our governor has passed legislation forcing everyone to wear a mask outside period. Except for those of us with medical conditions. There is no place left I can go except the cemetery which is becoming a playground filled with people jogging, riding bikes, skateboarding, and sitting in lounge chairs all maskless.

This rule is overkill IMO. I will continue to go out maskless because it's either that or stay in for a couple of years or until November which would hurt my health. I have no intention of allowing this law to destroy me or make me sick.

That's all. I've had my say.
 

Bonnie said:
They sell face shields of all sorts ...
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But wearing a mask and face shield in hot humid weather seems like it's own form of torture .. :sick: ... and deathšŸ˜°
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LOl. That would make you hotter, but it wouldn't offer any protection. Eye protection would have to fit snugly against the face. Viruses don't travel only in a straight line. :ROFLMAO:
 
I shop at Costco, and I haven't been in a store shopping since March 12. However, if I do need to go, I will definitely be wearing my mask, and perhaps gloves. We had a few white masks in the garage, I have two homemade ones (no sew), and I have two masks coming in the mail from Etsy, which I just purchased this weekend.

I'm glad that Costco is requiring masks, and I may have to do some shopping there in the next couple of weeks. I would wear mine regardless at this point, until the pandemic dies down. We can only do what we think is smart and makes sense to us, other people can do their own thing.

I haven't been sick, but I understand that people can carry and spread COVID-19 to others if they have it. I wear the mask as more of a concern for those around me, although it may give slight protection to me also. If someone spits, coughs or sneezes and drops hit my face, it can't hurt having a cloth as a barrier, even if thin.
 

So much misinformation, in this thread, concerning masks. Please actually read up on studies that have been done on all types of masks, including the homemade ones with coffee filters or surgical masks used under them. All can be reasonably effective in providing some protection to the wearer and those around him/her.

A good study to start with:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/

There are other studies, online, that have more data. Read them. Don't trust what you read on this forum, my own posts included. Do your own research.
 
treeguy64 said:
So much misinformation, in this thread, concerning masks. Please actually read up on studies that have been done on all types of masks, including the homemade ones with coffee filters or surgical masks used under them. All can be reasonably effective in providing some protection to the wearer and those around him/her.

A good study to start with:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/

There are other studies, online, that have more data. Read them. Don't trust what you read on this forum, my own posts included. Do your own research.
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I have. That's how I learned about the virus entering unprotected eyes, as well as the ineffectiveness of non-medical masks. That's also why they originally told us masks are not effective.
 
I read about Costco and went this morning to get a membership because of it. One opened here in the last year and I just haven't gotten around to joining. In addition to requiring masks, they're also limiting entrance to two people per card.
 
We were in Costco (Adelaide) yesterday no masks in there ,we hadnā€™t been in the store since the last week of February .

I ordered hand sanitiser from a very well known dress shop chain thatā€™s selling masks as well
Iā€™ve just got my $70 refund after a month for the HS it was nothing short of a scam so be wary where you buy protective gear.

I used to spends lots of $$$$ buying dancing skirts / tops each spring from this clothing store
Im now a FORMER customer
 
Kadee46 said:
We was in Costco in Adelaide yesterday no masks in there ,we hadnā€™t been in the store since the last week of February .

I ordered hand sanitiser from a very well known dress shop chain thatā€™s selling masks as well
Iā€™ve just got my $70 refund after a month for the HS it was nothing short of a scam so be wary where you buy protective gear.

I used to spends lots of $$$$ buying dancing skirts / tops each spring from this clothing store
Im now a FORMER customer
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@Kadee46 , I'm glad you got your money back. Maybe they got scammed, too?
 
I believe they were selling the protective gear / HS for a over seas business ..we can only guess where that would be @RadishRose
When I ordered the HS I didnā€™t even get a confirmation of the order and the shop refused to answer emails ( they have lots of negative reviews online due to this issue )
I waited a month then contacted Consumer affairs , I was instructed contact the shop yet again quoting a case number supplied by CA I received a email saying they had refunded my $70 for 2 bottles of HS yesterday
 
Kadee46 said:
I believe they were selling the protective gear / HS for a over seas business ..we can only guess where that would be @RadishRose
When I ordered the HS I didnā€™t even get a confirmation of the order and the shop refused to answer emails ( they have lots of negative reviews online due to this issue )
I waited a month then contacted Consumer affairs , I was instructed contact the shop yet again quoting a case number supplied by CA I received a email saying they had refunded my $70 for 2 bottles of HS yesterday
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Wow, good for you for following through! Hah- they got caught.
 
win231 said:
Instead of being a programmed robot, please think. The non-medical masks we're required to wear in stores are designed to protect construction workers from particles - sawdust, paint splatters, etc. I use mine when using my leaf blower. They do not stop microscopic viruses from coming in or being exhaled (unless the wearer stops breathing. And the virus enters through the mouth, nose, or eyes. That's why medical personnel wear snug-fitting eye protection.
What mask protects the eyes?
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If everyone in the store is practicing social distancing and has a mask on stopping the force of cough and sneeze droplets, there's not going to be enough of a viral load to worry about the eyes other than touching them if your hands touch something that someone has touched with contaminated hands. Wearing glasses and gloves reminds you not to touch your eyes.
 
Other than the shortage of masks...which anymore isn't that big of a deal with the homemade ones if you have a filter for them...I don't understand what the big deal is with wearing a mask into a store to protect each other from this stuff. You'd think they'd want to. It's just a mask. It's not like the stores are asking them to pay for their goods with a kidney or something. Sheesh!
Talk about people who need to grow up and be responsible enough to do the right thing.
 
win231 said:
LOl. That would make you hotter, but it wouldn't offer any protection. Eye protection would have to fit snugly against the face. Viruses don't travel only in a straight line. :ROFLMAO:
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They also don't fly. They're particles in the air and gravity continually pulls them downward. Unless you're in a stream of air blowing up from a fan or some such, a particle suspended in the air isn't going to defy gravity and go up under the bottom of a shield and fly up inside of it into the eyes. Most healthcare providers wear shields.
 
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AnnieA said:
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If everyone in the store is practicing social distancing and has a mask on stopping the force of cough and sneeze droplets, there's not going to be enough of a viral load to worry about the eyes other than touching them if your hands touch something that someone has touched with contaminated hands. Wearing glasses and gloves reminds you not to touch your eyes.
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^^^ Clearly explains why you think a mask protects.
 
Packerjohn said:
Never wore a mask & never will. I have worn these kinds of masks while sanding vertical wood in the past when I was a home owner. I wear glasses & the masks would just steam up my lenses. Can't win there. Googles were better for my eyes but to cover my mouth & nose, how am I suppose to breath or see at the same time?
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You are supposed to breathe and let everyone else breathe as well. After wearing one for a few minutes the fogging goes away.
 
JaniceM said:
What I've noticed: people who have masks and gloves too, lowering the masks so they can wolf down their cigarettes.
As for me, if I want to smoke or vape, I just wait til I get home.
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Yup, lung cancer is a much slower death, unless you get the virus.
 
As Governor Cuomo said a couple of days ago, wearing a mask is a sign of respect for other people. That says it all.

I do sympathize with Packer's problem with his glasses steaming up. I have the same problem. But I wear a mask anyway. I don't wear it when I am driving (alone in my car, why would I need a mask?), so I'm not likely to kill anyone because my glasses steam up. I'm experimenting with different types of masks to see if some are more glasses-friendly.
 
Sunny said:
As Governor Cuomo said a couple of days ago, wearing a mask is a sign of respect for other people. That says it all.

I do sympathize with Packer's problem with his glasses steaming up. I have the same problem. But I wear a mask anyway. I don't wear it when I am driving (alone in my car, why would I need a mask?), so I'm not likely to kill anyone because my glasses steam up. I'm experimenting with different types of masks to see if some are more glasses-friendly.
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If I wear a winter parka and the neck zips up high around my chin, then my sunglasses will fog up too. So far I've been using homemade masks out of bandanas. With the extra fabric, I found I can pull it up a bit and set my sunglasses on top of the mask, and that solves the fogging. I plan to use a store bought one though soon, so I'll see how that works out.
 
SeaBreeze said:
If I wear a winter parka and the neck zips up high around my chin, then my sunglasses will fog up too. So far I've been using homemade masks out of bandanas. With the extra fabric, I found I can pull it up a bit and set my sunglasses on top of the mask, and that solves the fogging. I plan to use a store bought one though soon, so I'll see how that works out.
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Buy "Quick Spit." Absolutely works to prevent fogging. We use it in the tree biz.

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Add-Water-Quick-Antifog/dp/B00PDE1TO4
 
Sunny said:
As Governor Cuomo said a couple of days ago, wearing a mask is a sign of respect for other people. That says it all.

I do sympathize with Packer's problem with his glasses steaming up. I have the same problem. But I wear a mask anyway. I don't wear it when I am driving (alone in my car, why would I need a mask?), so I'm not likely to kill anyone because my glasses steam up. I'm experimenting with different types of masks to see if some are more glasses-friendly.
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https://www.amazon.com/Just-Add-Water-Quick-Antifog/dp/B00PDE1TO4
 
Thanks for the bandana tip, Seabreeze. I'll try that.

Treeguy, if you spray that stuff on glasses before leaving home, does the effect wear off? How long does it last?
 

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