People at WM have a death wish, re coming close to being a pedestrian killer

Pedestrian has right of way. Period.
I realize that. What about self-preservation? Why walk behind an obviously moving car? It is possible not to get hit by a car in a parking lot. I've been making sure I don't for all my life. I have never thought that having the right of way would save my life or limb, either while driving or while walking..
 

“It’s my right of way. I’m way more important that you. How dare you try to continue backing out when I want to step behind you.” That was the essence of an online FB rant. I also see it with those walking down the middle of the parking lots. Self-entered idiots.
 
I have been driving for over 60 years. I am a very good driver. Have had only a few minor accidents or fender benders in that time, only one of which was my fault. I don't drive as much now of course, and am more cautious than I was perhaps in my younger days.
Oh wait, by "a very good driver" I meant when going forward. I can't back up worth a darn! I have managed to back into several posts over the years and when I get out of the car I am surprised to see that I have backed up at some crazy weird angle. (Although surprisingly, I was always able to parallel park without a problem.)
A couple of years ago, I still lived in my house (am now in a retirement community). In order to back out of the garage to the turn around, you had to cut to the right and it was a bit of a blind spot coming out of the garage. One year, I managed to back out of my garage into a small truck belonging to some folks who were there to work on my lawn. And the next year I backed into a car of the ladies who had arrived to clean my house (they were not in the car). After that, my insurance went up for a few years but has since come back down.
So of course I could blame these accidents on the garage blind spot. The only trouble is, my car has both a back-up camera and a warning alarm!! :cry:
 

I realize that. What about self-preservation? Why walk behind an obviously moving car? It is possible not to get hit by a car in a parking lot. I've been making sure I don't for all my life. I have never thought that having the right of way would save my life or limb, either while driving or while walking..
You are absolutely right. I see jaywalking here all the time. Everyone should be respectful of right-of-way but they're not. It's everyone for themselves in any situation. People are just dumb, jingle-jangling in their own worlds.
 
At our local Walmart, we have quite a few Amish and Mennonite customers....some of them traveling via their horse and buggy. They usually bring the entire family, with several small kids prancing around. If I see any of them in the area, I usually wait a bit, until they have cleared the area. Then, there are those walking through the parking lot, using their cell phones, and not seeming to pay attention to their surroundings. So, when driving in Any parking lots, I scan the area, looking for any potential pedestrians, and use extra caution when moving the vehicle.
 
I always look at cars (especially if someone in them) to make sure they are not ready to move. It is easier to see lights at night or overcast days .... sometimes in sunshine....... if it hits lens just right may look like light is on ....

While i as a pedestrian may have the right away it is not worth it to walk behind someone who for what ever reason is not paying attention.
Not just a Walmart thing any place people may be angry (DMV) is worse as they pull out in a huff.

I always told my kids when teaching them to drive that it REALLY does not matter who was RIGHT........ when people get hurt or cars are damaged in accidents. Being right does not protect you from injury or damage.
 
I realize that. What about self-preservation? Why walk behind an obviously moving car? It is possible not to get hit by a car in a parking lot. I've been making sure I don't for all my life. I have never thought that having the right of way would save my life or limb, either while driving or while walking..
True! Apparently everyone has forgotten, or no-one teaches kids anymore, that before you enter space thru which vehicles move you need to do a visual check. Even at stoplights when in my car and light goes green, i do quick scan for the perpendicular traffic and for pedestrians. The first has saved me from many collisions, more than once with semi trucks, running their red light.

i also stop unless less than full car length from intersection when light goes orange or once because the semi clearly didn't plan to stop [was very glad no-one was 'jumping' their red when mine went orange, as i see many do]. Looking for pedestrians helps both them and me. i sure don't want to hit anybody.
 
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Pedestrian has right of way. Period.
No, they don't. I don't know about other states, but in CA, it depends on the details.

No, pedestrians do not always have the right of way. While they generally do, there are times when they do not. When people violate their state’s pedestrian and crosswalk laws, they do not have the right of way.
If they do not have the right of way and cause a car accident, the pedestrian may be held liable. They can also be found partially at fault and see their compensation reduced by their percentage of responsibility.
California has many laws that deal with pedestrian safety. California Vehicle Code 29150 VC is the main one. This statute says that motor vehicles have to yield the right-of-way to pedestrians who are crossing the street in
  • a marked crosswalk or
  • an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.1
However, the statute also says that pedestrians have to cross the street safely. It expressly says that pedestrians cannot:
  • suddenly leave the curb or place of safety,
  • walk or run into the path of an oncoming vehicle to create an immediate hazard, or
  • unnecessarily stop in a marked or unmarked crosswalk, or delay traffic.2
Additionally, other California laws prohibit pedestrians from:
  • walking in bike lanes where there is a sidewalk or walking path available on the side of the road,3
  • going outside the crosswalk at an intersection, like going straight to the opposite corner when there is no crosswalk between those two points,4
  • crossing at an intersection against the traffic signal or the don’t walk signal,5 and
  • crossing outside of a crosswalk, intersection, or pedestrian crossing when there are vehicles close enough to be an immediate hazard.6
Pedestrians who do any of these things do not have the right of way.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/do-pedestrians-always-have-the-right-of-way/
 
I know someone who got hit by a truck that was backing out of a parking spot. She didn't sue them, but she was permanently injured, and elderly, so after that she had a hard time even walking.
The injury I have from falling into the garage is something the doctors refer to as a "bumper Injury," because it's usually caused when a car hits the pedestrian in the knee. It broke the tibia, the femur, knocked the cap out of place and tore all four big leg ligaments. Yes I'm permanently messed up and have to walk with a cane, plus it gets worse every day because nothing around the joint is aligned correctly anymore.

And yet -- I park far away where I can pull through, even though it makes a long painful walk to the store for me.

All of Wheaten's prey would have been killed by me because when I back up in my Neon the closest thing I can see is about 40 feet away.
 
The injury I have from falling into the garage is something the doctors refer to as a "bumper Injury," because it's usually caused when a car hits the pedestrian in the knee. It broke the tibia, the femur, knocked the cap out of place and tore all four big leg ligaments. Yes I'm permanently messed up and have to walk with a cane, plus it gets worse every day because nothing around the joint is aligned correctly anymore.

And yet -- I park far away where I can pull through, even though it makes a long painful walk to the store for me.

All of Wheaten's prey would have been killed by me because when I back up in my Neon the closest thing I can see is about 40 feet away.
My father was born in 1908. In the late 1930s (before me) he was involved in two accidents. The first was as a truck driver, when some debris came off a truck and injured him. A few years later, a bus ran into his car and he was severely injured. This was all of course before workers compensation, personal injury lawyers, widespread insurance coverages, etc. He never received any financial compensation. The result was that he became a hunchback and could not turn his head to either side. And because nothing was aligned correctly, his internal organs were "compromised" (according to my older sister who knows more about both incidents than I do). He died at age 73, mostly from emphysema, due to a lifetime of cigarette smoking (which I have avoided) but also from the permanent injuries he sustained as a young man.
 
WheatenLover, you're very observant. As you noted, people just keep walking when a car is backing up on them. I don't understand why they don't see the danger. 2 tons of car vs flesh and bone. And what's weird is that we probably all do it. That fact that most of us aren't run over is because drivers, when backing up, are more aware of their surroundings than us walkers are
 
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Some folks fail to grasp that when the back-up lights come on the car is going to back up. Perhaps the back-up lights need to flash brightly.
 
WheatenLover, you're very observant. As you noted, people just keep walking when a car is backing up on them. I don't understand why they don't see the danger. 2 tons of car vs flesh and bone. And what's wierd is that we probably all do it.
I don't do it. As I walk behind a line of parked cars, I look in each car. If someone is sitting in the driver's seat, I make damn sure they're not getting ready to back up. And if the Reverse lights are on, I wait.
 
They are just in their own little world apparently. Darwin at work, it's amazing so many of them are still around.
Some folks fail to grasp that when the back-up lights come on the car is going to back up. Perhaps the back-up lights need to flash brightly.
Perhaps what's needed is a siren and a loudspeaker. First the siren goes off, then over the loudspeaker, "Pay attention, you idiot! Look where you're going, there are cars moving here! Look up from your freaking phone for a split second. Pay attention, so you don't get run over!" Despite that, most people would probably think you weren't directing it at them. :rolleyes: It's hopeless.
 


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