People of Color, Innocent or Non Violent Who Were Killed By Police

Pepper said:
They could have called a relative to come pick him up. There was no point in arresting him. I lived in rural areas. I've known many a white person who just pulled over somewhere to sleep it off & no legal interventions were ever involved, even when spotted by local police.
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If he had pulled over to sleep it off, he might have been ok. Instead he passed out in the Wendy's drive-through lane and a black "Karen" called the police to complain.

In my day, the manager of the Wendy's would have dealt with the problem by waking him up, driving his car into a parking place, giving him a cup of coffee and sending him on to his sister's house. Now everybody is afraid of everything so they call the police.
 
Keesha said:
Yet their aim is good enough for an instance kill? 🙁🙄
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They are taught this: If you shoot, shoot "center mass" (largest area of the body). Least chance of missing and having the bullet go elsewhere. Or of having a large, angry, drunken man grab your gun and using it on you.

Don't get me wrong, I think the situation is/was awful and the man should have been Ubered home. Maybe have his car impounded. One thing led to another, with tragic consequences for all.
 
Sunny said:
OK, I googled, and found the following:

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

It says in 2019, blacks were 24% of the number of people killed by police, despite being 13% of the population.
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From your link:

99%
of killings by police from 2013-2019 have not resulted in officers being charged with a crime.

There is no accountability

(The graphic below is from Sunny's link)


This is something that I saved previously: Qualified Immunity

"On May 25, Minneapolis police killed George Floyd. While two officers pinned the handcuffed Floyd on a city street, another fended off would-be intervenors as a fourth knelt on Floyd’s neck until — and well after — he lost consciousness.

But when Floyd’s family goes to court to hold the officers liable for their actions, a judge in Minnesota may very well dismiss their claims. Not because the officers didn’t do anything wrong, but because there isn’t a case from the 8th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court specifically holding that it is unconstitutional for police to kneel on the neck of a handcuffed man for nearly nine minutes until he loses consciousness and then dies.

And such a specific case is what Floyd’s family must provide to overcome a legal doctrine called “qualified immunity” that shields police and all other government officials from accountability for their illegal and unconstitutional acts.

The Supreme Court created qualified immunity in 1982. With that novel invention, the court granted all government officials immunity for violating constitutional and civil rights unless the victims of those violations can show that the rights were “clearly established.”

A virtually unlimited protection
Although innocuous sounding, the clearly established test is a legal obstacle nearly impossible to overcome. It requires a victim to identify an earlier decision by the Supreme Court, or a federal appeals court in the same jurisdiction holding that precisely the same conduct under the same circumstances is illegal or unconstitutional. If none exists, the official is immune. Whether the official’s actions are unconstitutional, intentional or malicious is irrelevant to the test."

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fuzzybuddy said:
I question the police actions before he bolted. They determined that suspect was impaired, probably due to alcohol detoxification. His well being became their responsibility at that moment. While his cooperation may have aided the police, the suspect should have been cuffed, and under control. Neither happened, and he bolted.
As far as racism is concerned, in the heat of the moment, if a white suspect acted in the same way, would that be a factor. Who knows?
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It began as he was being cuffed.
 
Lewkat said:
It isn't a matter of aiming so much as the bullet's trajectory once it enters the body. I doubt the cop was aiming as both were running, but as I said, after the missile hits you, many organs are torn apart.
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Also worth noting that a shot in the leg can hit the femoral artery, resulting in bleed out and death.
 
I received a radio call that a car was stopped at a light that had changed 3 times to green and the driver never moved, so one of the other drivers behind him went up to the car and pounded on the window, but couldn’t get a reaction from the driver. When I arrived on the scene, I also tried pounding on the window and didn’t get a reaction. I then tried the door, but it was locked.

I went back to my car and took my electronic megaphone out of the trunk and put it against the window and yelled at the top of my voice. Finally, he slowly moved around and then was able to unlock the door. When I got him out of the car, I had him taken to the hospital. A few hours later, I was able to interview him. He told me that he had worked 20 consecutive hours at the paper mill in the small town where we were. He said that he was drinking power drinks and highly caffeinated drinks. He said after he got in his car and started driving home, he just crashed. The doctors at the hospital told me that his bp was abnormally high, but his pulse was abnormally low and he could have died.

It just goes to show us how powerful these caffeinated drinks can be. The doctors believed that he also may have taken some pills, but I didn’t request a toxicology report. I never believed looking for trouble. He did spend the night in the hospital for observation.

In this case with the Atlanta driver, as a police officer, I wouldn’t like the idea of a drunk running around town with a loaded Taser. Those things have been known to kill people. When we first got ours, I volunteered to be Tasered. I only took 35,000 volts, but it’s an experience that you never forget.
 
JimBob1952 said:
They are taught this: If you shoot, shoot "center mass" (largest area of the body). Least chance of missing and having the bullet go elsewhere. Or of having a large, angry, drunken man grab your gun and using it on you.

Don't get me wrong, I think the situation is/was awful and the man should have been Ubered home. Maybe have his car impounded. One thing led to another, with tragic consequences for all.
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That was my husbands point of view that maybe the police officer panicked thinking now they had a drunk man with a dangerous weapon wandering around but I can’t help but think it could have been handled better. Then again I’m not a police officer. It seems like they both panicked and bad choices were made. Very sad! I feel for the dead man’s family and friends.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I guess you could compare it to a baseball major league pitcher who makes millions of dollars, trains a lot, yet manages to throw balls that walk players or create fouls that players hit. You can not win them all.
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i agree you can't win them all, but would your team hire a man who couldnt bat?..ok yes a pitcher..lol... but our on the street police are batters, the pitchers are on the other end of the radio...
 
Mahatma said:
i agree you can't win them all, but would your team hire a man who couldnt bat?..ok yes a pitcher..lol... but our on the street police are batters, the pitchers are on the other end of the radio...
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Lots of highly trained batters miss as well.
 
win231 said:
One of the aspects of police work is that it attracts people who crave power & control. It also attracts racists who can exercise & express their hatred through brutality - and often get away with it under the guise of "Fighting Crime," & at the same time, be admired as a hero because many (ignorant) people view any cop as a hero.
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You are exactly right Win!! I had a friend who left the force for those reasons. I also had three cousins who were officers and the father of two of them was a detective (three are deceased, one retired). I also know there are still good cops in this country (of all races) and I thank God for them.
 
911 said:
Maybe he (the cop) wanted to shoot him in the butt, however, he’s just a terrible shot.
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That seems to be the way of society today, always making up excuses to excuse cops in order to mitigate their actions or inactions.

Let me guess, you're a cop or used to be a cop?
 

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