People That Commit Suicide

OlderThanDirt said:
I saw Tim Buckley in concert at the Fillmore East back in the day. He stumbled onstage, attempted a song, and then stumbled off. I was so disappointed. It was the Fillmore, so there were two other acts, but I had gone to see him! I think the other acts were Jeff Beck and maybe a group called Rhinoceros? I should look this up!
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replying to myself! Can't find anything about that Tim Buckely show- maybe it was Tim Hardin? I'm confused (also ancient).
 

If I was there I probably had dinner first at Seed, across from the Fillmore; Second Ave. on E. 6th St. I loved that place! @OlderThanDirt. Could you possibly recall that? They served tea, free, to anyone and had the best tempura!
 
Pepper said:
If I was there I probably had dinner first at Seed, across from the Fillmore; Second Ave. on E. 6th St. I loved that place!
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I'm veering way off topic but- best show I ever saw at the Fillmore East was The Incredible String Band. They were the only act. It was magical. Saw them also at Drew University and again, magical. Sigh. I was such a hippie chick with my long hair and peasant blouses etc. etc. etc. Crazy times. I enjoyed myself!
 
Pepper said:
If I was there I probably had dinner first at Seed, across from the Fillmore; Second Ave. on E. 6th St. I loved that place! @OlderThanDirt. Could you possibly recall that? They served tea, free, to anyone and had the best tempura!
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Oh, no, I don't remember that restaurant, but you know, it was the 60s. I do remember sitting on my boyfriend's lap for an entire show due to the fact that Bill Graham had apparently oversold the venue. Good times.
 
Bill Graham always oversold; that's why about 100 people were always hanging out on the balcony floor, outside the balcony, near the restrooms. @OlderThanDirt Personally, I always had a first, second or third row seat. Always.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I too have personal experience with suicide. My Mother ( by accident ), my step-Mother, my Father, and older brother ( by accident ), and friends. Were they mentally ill? Who is to judge this? My feeling is that sometimes it is probably a mistake to try to kill yourself, but if your situation becomes intolerable and the suffering too much I feel like it is up to the individual. Helping someone with a horrid condition just to keep them alive seems wrong to me. Putting them in an institution and keeping them sedated is wrong IMO.
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So difficult. I struggle with the idea of suicide myself. I see my future ahead of me as increasing disability and loss of independence due to age and I wonder just how far I want to go with that. I think my dad would have been better off if he'd died before his slow decline due to Alzheimers. It was horrifying to watch and so rough on my mom, especially. I keep telling my family to push me off a cliff if I become demented (and I'm high risk, obviously).
 
Pepper said:
Bill Graham always oversold; that's why about 100 people were always hanging out on the balcony floor, outside the balcony, near the restrooms. @OlderThanDirt Personally, I always had a first, second or third row seat. Always.
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I remember having a second or third row seat for my precious Incredible String Band- although that might have been at the University not Fillmore east. Years later I moved to San Francisco and a very good friend of mine started working for Bill Graham presents. Graham had learned how to produce in the meantime- his shows in SF were very well run, I felt. I got to hear a lot of live music with extremely good seats in SF. Was there from 74-90.
 
When I was a student, I saw the Incredible String Band and wasn't impressed..... but back to the topic...

Mrs. L worked in an infant school and one of the parents asked her to 'keep an eye' on her young son because things were bad at home.
Apparently the father had been busted for possessing drugs but his court hearing kept being postponed. As a result he was very depressed and threatening suicide. When his case was postponed again, he went to the park opposite the school one evening, and hanged himself.

For some time afterwards, the son would draw a man hanging from a tree, saying that was his dad. I related this story to a police sergeant whom I knew and his response was, He was a heroin junkies. Good riddance, that's one less piece of filth we have to deal with.
 
ohioboy said:
Attempted suicide is not a criminal offense, so the law is basically powerless, except what 911 pointed out.
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On the other hand ( in Canada ) it is a criminal offence to assist or advise someone how to commit suicide. There is a case before our courts at this time, that involves a man who was advertising and selling suicide kits on the internet. The kit contained a material that (when used properly) is a meat preservative. Taken in a concentrated form it is a poison. This Canadian man is now facing 23 charges of first degree murder, regarding 23 deaths in Canada. There are more cases that took place in other countries around the world. Here is a link.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/14/world/canadian-man-charged-suicide-kits

JimB.
 
hollydolly said:
Not everyone who takes their own lives have mental health issues.

My mother took her own life.. she was in a terrible abusive marriage and had attempted suicide several times and had always been found before she died.. The first was when I was just around 4 years old.. she succeeded when I was 18 years old..

The second suicide was my ex husbands' eldest son who was born after we divorced and he was in a new relationship. My daughters' half brother

The boy grew to have an addiction to gambling just like his father.. and in his early 20's with a partner and new baby couldn't see his way out of it , and took his own life...
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I'm so sorry, you have lived through a lot. I have too. That's why we are who we are, hopefully stronger for our experiences, wiser too, but in my case, deeply saddened by what human nature can be and the endless pain of the human condition.
 
Assisted Suicide or euthanasia IS legal in Canada BUT you have to be very careful who you talk to about this otherwise you could find yourself in the mental ward in hospital.

Death by starvation is completely legal though. Nobody can force you to eat if you don’t want to.
 
I've had both friends and family members commit suicide and even one of my neighbors. Sometimes people are just alone and overwhelmed by unhappiness. I think more people would be successful opting of this world if we still had access to barbituarates like in the old days when so many Hollywood stars overdosed. Just my thoughts. I don't have answers.
 
chic said:
I've had both friends and family members commit suicide and even one of my neighbors. Sometimes people are just alone and overwhelmed by unhappiness. I think more people would be successful opting of this world if we still had access to barbituarates like in the old days when so many Hollywood stars overdosed. Just my thoughts. I don't have answers.
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Luckily, street fentanyl is readily available.
 
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