Philadelphia woman stabbed 20 times from behind but her death still ruled a suicide

[IrishEyes]

If you have HULU, you can watch the story here on their True Crimes segments
Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?

 

[OldFeller]

"Simon’s [Author of the MEO report] conclusion stands in direct opposition to the recent opinion of Dr. Marlon Osbourne, the very pathologist who performed Ellen’s autopsy in 2011. Earlier this year, Osbourne signed a sworn statement saying her death “should be designated as something other than suicide.”

Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, who has closely followed the case, said the city’s renewed suicide ruling defies both science and common sense.

“It continues to be a travesty of justice, a cover up for someone with alot of influence — either because of money, position or friends in high places,” Lieberman told TheIndependent."

"Simon’s findings also run contrary to the opinions of five of seven forensic experts whose reports she reviewed – most of whom concluded the death was indicative of homicide or “not biomechanically consistent with suicide.”

Above from Yahoo News 10/14/25

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.​

 

[Sunny]

Remember the old TV show Jonathan Creek? He was a magician/amateur detective, very odd and quirky, who lived in a windmill and was a genius at solving cases like this. I think they used to call them locked room mysteries. This sounds like one of his cases.

 

[Coco]

Watched the documentary and was so sad about the ending. I suppose I could do more research but poor Ellen will still be dead and her family forever changed.

 

[Alice November]

I think an ‘Undetermined‘ label is better than suicide because that seems so unlikely and so harmful for the grieving loved ones. It must be very difficult to actually positively determine suicide in many cases I would think.

 

[hollydolly]

Remember the old TV show Jonathan Creek? He was a magician/amateur detective, very odd and quirky, who lived in a windmill and was a genius at solving cases like this. I think they used to call them locked room mysteries. This sounds like one of his cases.

Yes I know the actor Alan Davies very well.....even as an actor and not a detective he's a shrewed clever guy... lol


I think maybe Poirot could have solved this case as well

 

[Born_To_Lose]

Maybe she was like the lady at the carnival I saw once. She could turn herself into a pretzel.

 

[OneEyedDiva]

"Simon’s [Author of the MEO report] conclusion stands in direct opposition to the recent opinion of Dr. Marlon Osbourne, the very pathologist who performed Ellen’s autopsy in 2011. Earlier this year, Osbourne signed a sworn statement saying her death “should be designated as something other than suicide.”

Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, who has closely followed the case, said the city’s renewed suicide ruling defies both science and common sense.

“It continues to be a travesty of justice, a cover up for someone with alot of influence — either because of money, position or friends in high places,” Lieberman told TheIndependent."

"Simon’s findings also run contrary to the opinions of five of seven forensic experts whose reports she reviewed – most of whom concluded the death was indicative of homicide or “not biomechanically consistent with suicide.”

Above from Yahoo News 10/14/25

What I bolded was my first thought Mack. Seems like a ridiculous conclusion. I thought, oh there really are dumb cops like we see on T.V.
@Alice November I agree that leaving it as a suicide must be so traumatic for her family, especially knowing it's not likely or possible that she killed herself. I'd be terribly angry.