Police Test Question. Arrest Fellow Officer For A DUI? Better Answer NO

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A town in Massachusetts hired police who answered they would not arrest a fellow officer for a DUI. It was a question given during interviews for police job.

http://jonathanturley.org/2015/07/2...ledged-not-to-arrest-fellow-officers-for-dui/

I've heard for decades of how police departments not only can rig an interview but how they can set up the written test so their desired or preferred answers are scored higher. A common question on a commonly used written test is if one sees an officer taking a bribe do you confront the officer, arrest the officer,ignore it, turn him for further investigation or tell your immediate supervisor only-confront ignore or supervisor are the only acceptable answers. I heard one always had to take the tell or request a supervisor answer on most situations taking away any discretion from the officer. Also heard they do look for applicants who are willing to use their discretion to avoid arrests when ever possible. And yes they do use "discretion" to rationalize their preferred answers.

Also this type of interview question makes coaching or informing an applicant of the desired answer more likely.

I've seen stories in places like Florida where another department or agency arrested an officer for dui and all heck breaks lose. I think a Florida state cop is currently getting ransacked for arresting a local cop for DUI. Heard stories of a sheriffs deputy arresting a town police officer then a feud develops.

Not only does show what are some of the causes of corrupt policing in America but also shows the how misguided the tact of these HR profiling test within a test type questions are since they are open to abuse.
 

It happens, cops are human and thus susceptible to the same dishonest frailties as everyone. It's just uglier when unethical behavior occurs under the color of the law.
 
It happens, cops are human and thus susceptible to the same dishonest frailties as everyone. It's just uglier when unethical behavior occurs under the color of the law.

I understand that a cop might not want to arrest a fellow cop just as an employee not might want to turn somebody in for criminal or policy violations. But to me this shouldn't even be a question at the interview. It's one thing to hide or slip that question in a written test with it's own subjective scoring/profiling but it is another for that question to be asked by those actually doing the hiring/recommending. As soon as word gets out that is an interview question it sends a message that not arresting a fellow officer is "ok". So before training even starts or department policy is given there are corrupt applicants in that pool of cadets. That question is basically like the movie Training Day where the new cop is constantly tested to see how far they'll go except the interview panel of administrators is the Denzel Washington character.

One of the reasons for this question is loyalty, loyalty to the department as well as fellow officers. If the police officer keeps the department out of trouble from aggressive enforcement & the police looking good the politicians look good and that includes their choice of hires which is darn near everyone in smaller cities & towns. Also those administrators know if they get pulled over the cop will already know what to do avoiding any direct involvement in fixing the case. The case is "dropped" before it even started. It's the code in professional politician world especially. But even more troubling this opens the door to all sorts of unofficial favors or so called professional courtesies. And that could include anything from ignoring major crime in certain areas/with certain people, inside confidential information, bribes and/or all around negligent behavior.

Some are also arguing it's an honesty test from the interviewer. But isn't that what polygraphs, background checks, psychological tests & interviews are there for?
 

When I applied for my position with the Pennsylvania State Police, I was never asked any type of question regarding as to what I would do if I encountered a fellow officer committing an illegal act. I interviewed for my position as a Cadet twice. The second interview was conducted before a panel of officers and they asked a myriad of questions.

Truthfully, I was always 100% committed, proud and loyal to the State Police and can say with complete honesty that only once was I embarrassed to be a State Policeman. In 2007, I believe, we had a police officer, Kevin Foley, that killed his girlfriend's husband. That fact alone would be enough to be embarrassed, but it wasn't the first time that a PA State Policeman was charged with murder. What really upset me was that it was discovered that a few of his fellow Troopers were covering for him by knowingly withholding important information and evidence. To me, an officer cannot stoop any lower than to cover up or lie about a crime.
 
That question & answer now potential evidence

One of things that puzzles me by using and/or allowing questions like this is that it is evidence to help show a cop is corrupt, biased or enforces the law unequally. It could also be used to show a department pattern or policy of corrupt and unequal enforcement of the law.

All heck would break lose if a drunk cop was let go or out of a dui arrest drives on to have a serious/fatal accident. Now a lawyer has evidence that it was the officers non intent at a traffic stop to arrest a fellow officer for DUI. Same for the department being negligent in that they didn't take into account a "NO" answer to a arresting a fellow cop for a dui. It's potential evidence in a lawsuit or criminal investigation.
 
This came about partly because of a lawsuit against the department. In that lawsuit is a perfect example of the patronage/who you know to get a government job. Just read page 3 of the complaint and you see who knows who including all the relatives. Also noted that 8 of those hired scored below the complaining police officer candidate/applicant.

http://www.mass.gov/anf/docs/csc/decisions/bypass/2015/phillips-michael-070915.pdf

This is a microcosm of what goes on in small town & big city America across the country.
 
Would you snitch on a brother/sister officer who has your back every day?

Does 'have your back' mean cover/help while in dangerous criminal situations or help keep my butt out of legal trouble from my own misdeeds & screw ups? This is an employment exam, not even a job orientation. If it turns out to be the unofficial unwritten code amongst the actual employees themselves then so be it but this is an employer telling potential employees it's ok to cheat or ignore the law and is the official code/policy.
 
The same community seems to forget

Methuen, the city in question seems to forget or ignore their own recent history involving police dui's.

An ex federal law enforcement/border patrol agent and Methuen auxiliary police officer was arrested for dui and was apparently vociferous about all the police he knew in attempt to get out of the charges.

http://www.newburyportnews.com/news...cle_eb1b1b38-fe6b-5b28-98ba-72ee6a869b22.html

Gee, do you think he was doing what he observed as officer in Methuen.

Then about a year before this recent police test and interviews Methuen had a fatal accident involving a cop with a dui. The cop was from Lowell MA and a previous dui.

http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/news/ci_26396908/lowell-officer-charged-fatal-crash

One must wonder was this officer let go before under the guise of professional courtesy in which those hiring seem to using to rationalize their mentality.
 
This is what happens when a colleague is given a free pass when they should've been treated like everyone else. A cop from New Jersey killed two in a Staten Island Expressway accident. The cop who was probably not ticketed as a so called professional courtesy had two previous DUIs but NO tickets NO points and more stunningly was NOT ticketed for DUI in the accident that killed two. Three duis and no tickets???

http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2...r_still_has_valid_license_s.html#incart_river

Is this what the citizens of Methuen Massachussets really want or any other community that has been using this corrupt hiring criteria for decades?
 


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