Pope Says 'We Abandoned the Little Ones', in Response to Child Abuse Findings

Several priests were found to have been abusers here in N.J. At least one was from a parish in my vicinity. Knowing that it went on so close to home was even more disturbing. Reading the stories of the men affected was heartbreaking. One of the priests was killed, maybe by a disgruntled family member. I blame those who covered it up just as much as the perpetrators. The mental health and sanity of children were sacrificed to save face for the Catholic church. 🤬
 

DaveA said:
Falcon - - I didn't need glasses 'til I was in my early 40's. Was that a good or bad sign, regarding past behaviors ??:confused:
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I was born very nearsighted. So....I must have masturbated before birth.
 

We have beaten this topic to death. But, what you can not deny that is the number of pedophiles in the clergy. I've begun to ask why. Why are pedophiles attracted to the clergy? And another thing I've been tossing around in my head is that pedophilia isn't a main stream sexual persuasion, or what ever . Most men aren't pedophiles. So, if so many little boys were abused, what about little girls? Is there another huge cache of abused kids yet to be discovered?
 
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It's probably logical that disgusting perverts choose lines of work where they're most likely to encounter potential victims.

However, there could be an additional reason: while the Catholic Church isn't unique in focusing on "Paul said" over "God said," the Catholic Church doesn't seem to realize commitment to the priesthood involves an abnormal way of life.
 
Depending on the Order , most priests take a vow of celibacy, not chastity. The difference being that priests cannot get legally married, rather than having no sexual partners. This is because when the clergy was allowed to be married, when they died; it was difficult to decide what assets were the priest's, and which were the church's. If you can't legally marry, you can't have legal heirs. If you notice the vow is not to marry, but that leaves an awful lot still on the table.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Depending on the Order , most priests take a vow of celibacy, not chastity. The difference being that priests cannot get legally married, rather than having no sexual partners. This is because when the clergy was allowed to be married, when they died; it was difficult to decide what assets were the priest's, and which were the church's. If you can't legally marry, you can't have legal heirs. If you notice the vow is not to marry, but that leaves an awful lot still on the table.
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Are you saying that priests are permitted to have sexual relations as long as they don't marry or procreate?

I'm not a Catholic, but that's sure different from they way I've understood priests' vows.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Depending on the Order , most priests take a vow of celibacy, not chastity. The difference being that priests cannot get legally married, rather than having no sexual partners. This is because when the clergy was allowed to be married, when they died; it was difficult to decide what assets were the priest's, and which were the church's. If you can't legally marry, you can't have legal heirs. If you notice the vow is not to marry, but that leaves an awful lot still on the table.
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I never heard of that.
 
Sunny said:
It does happen in other religions, StarSong, but certainly not to the extent that it does in the Roman Catholic church. Probably a large part of the reason is the refusal to allow priests to marry, or to be women. Incredible that in this day and age, the church is still holding fast. The Pope says:



So, how about starting with a Papal edict that says priests may marry, and they may be women, as the clergy are in nearly every other religion?
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Marriage has nothing to do with it. You either prefer children or you don’t.
 
The history of the pope's is a long study.
Somewhere the train went off the tracks, in the Middle Ages and there are a lot of horror stories regarding events in
monasteries and convents. Remember these facilities were often the only alternative to starving. It was a tough time to
be alive.

The Crusades exhibited the political power of the Popes, not unnoticed by those seeking political power.
In the Renaissance the pope was a political office-period.

The history of the popes and monks is a narrative driven by
the events of their times.
Our modern era is but a particle of the church's history.

Their are many devout priests, monks and nuns seeking a method to honor and serve God; the Catholic Church meets that need.

I am not defending the Catholic Church's hierarchy.
I only wish to point out that chastity is an expectation
far beyond the capacity of most people.
If compliance is anticipated, something is wrong with the
hierarchy and the lay people.
 

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