Preppers, could they be right?

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Her family of four have been living in their self-sufficient home for the past year. Instagram: @roguepreparedness.

Morgan Rogue, 37, from Alaska moved her family off-grid to help train them for a possible disaster that could result in the world ending. Morgan has been preparing for a life-changing disaster since 2010 and already has enough canned food to last six months.

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Moran hunts her own food

After being unable to charge her phone during a brief power outage eleven years ago, she realised how dire her situation would be if her electricity was permanently shut down. So she began to do research into ways to stay prepared, and eventually, she and her husband became involved in the prepping community – a group of people who share tips on doomsday prepping…….

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inside-doomsday-preppers-family-home-in-offgrid-alaska-home/news-story/b3b7c6964331092bf51b6f4c1f6d7e8f
 

Someday there may be the sort of disaster she's preparing for, or, after living off grid for fifty years, she may die thinking she missed a lot for no reason. I can understand people who want to have a year's worth of food stored in the basement, but I don't really see the point in living like disaster has already happened.
 

If you predict and prepare for the same event year after year at some point you will probably be right.

Living off the grid and being self-sufficient is just a comforting illusion for some.

The truth is that sooner or later you will need to make a run to Home Depot, order from Amazon, etc...

I prepare for what's likely to happen, but I will certainly perish if we enter into the zombie apocalypse and I'm ok with that.
 
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# 4 Aunt Bea 'sooner or later...'

Food for six months, good for you, what happens after six moths?
You have seeds to plant crops, you have a working knowledge of agriculture. you have a source of water...
Your guns tell me your prepared to to use deadly force: 'Oh it is for game.' :rolleyes:

Electrical grid, yea we've got ourselves in a terminal dependency on electricity, but Water, Water, Water...

HD says six months stash of food, that's just good sense.

Preppers are neat to read about, but doomsday?
I must have books, Preppers have libraries?
 
Aunt Bea said:
Living off the grid and being self-sufficient is just a comforting illusion for some.

The truth is that sooner or later you will need to make a run to home depot, order from Amazon, etc...
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So very true.

When we lived at our off grid cabin, I knew, if SHTF, we'd be in as much trouble as anyone.
Maybe stave off a few extra months, but, no real longevity.
The air and water were pure, and the beauty was unmatched, but living without things needed to buy?
Nada

Preppers, could they be right?​


There's an element of 'right' within every faction
Doesn't make the cause worthy
 
jerry old said:
# 4 Aunt Bea 'sooner or later...'

Food for six months, good for you, what happens after six moths?
You have seeds to plant crops, you have a working knowledge of agriculture. you have a source of water...
Your guns tell me your prepared to to use deadly force: 'Oh it is for game.' :rolleyes:

Electrical grid, yea we've got ourselves in a terminal dependency on electricity, but Water, Water, Water...

HD says six months stash of food, that's just good sense.

Preppers are neat to read about, but doomsday?
I must have books, Preppers have libraries?
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"Food for six months, good for you, what happens after six moths?" Exactly.

The dumb TV show "Doomsday Preppers" made the act of those prepping sound like a bunch of idiots. A true "prepper" prepares for situations like natural or even man made disasters not zombie attacks, however they probably would be in a good situation to defend against zombies if even a thing such as that ever happened. 🤪
 
I like to allow each to his own thinking and needs. I live in the high desert, there is not much to live off the land here. If the power were out for just a couple weeks, most people would be in a world of hurt. Livestock would die from lack of water. The river is 20 miles away and how many containers do most of us have at home? The well stocked freezer would spoil within three weeks. I can manage for six months with stored food but what of the neighbors?
Can I turn the unprepared people away? What about when they become desperate?

A friend was at his family home in Kabul when Afghanistan fell in 1996. His family had a walled compound of six homes and other buildings. They had to protect themselves from their neighbors within a week with guards on the walls and gates. Those that were not prepared had to resort to the unthinkable to try and feed their families. I know it sounds far fetched to us today as it did for them too.
I do not live in fear and my mantra when people get stressed about the free ride so many politicians are creating is that "Everything is ok on my corner of the world." And I am prepared for a day when it is not.
 
I think when the end of the world comes, I'll just go quietly. I don't want to survive only to find all the others out there are a bunch of paranoid crazies who are armed with giant automatic weapons looking to eliminate me before I steal their canned beans 😟
 
I am torn.
Read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" and know someday individualists will have to do this for freedom from Communist China.
There WILL BE a third World War and it will be devastating, but we don't know WHEN!
Could you live happily if all around you were dying, starving, homeless while you and your family lived comfortably and were well fed?
Wouldn't you rather spend your last days helping others ?

Most of the people living in the "bush" in Alaska are pretty self-sufficient. I almost did that myself!
 
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If a global catastrophe were to hit, and threaten virtually everything, what would be the use of trying to stave off the inevitable? Sure, its a good idea to have plenty of food in the house, and even a generator to supply some basic power for a few hours/days....but if the world is collapsing around me, I would Not want to have to try to survive in a Dark Ages environment.
 
Becky1951 said:
"Food for six months, good for you, what happens after six moths?" Exactly.

The dumb TV show "Doomsday Preppers" made the act of those prepping sound like a bunch of idiots. A true "prepper" prepares for situations like natural or even man made disasters not zombie attacks, however they probably would be in a good situation to defend against zombies if even a thing such as that ever happened. 🤪uy
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Remember Toilet Tissue and Lysol???? You can find both in abundance. There will never be a shortage of anything. It's called "Impose buying" when the news report a shortage...jmo.
 
I couldn't be a prepper though I know a guy who is living off grid. I doubt there will be a zombie apocalypse, but I can see why people might live this way to protect themselves from the government over reach going on globally right now. 🤔
 
Gaer said:
I am torn.
Read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" and know someday individualists will have to do this for freedom from Communist China.
There WILL BE a third World War and it will be devastating, but we don't know WHEN!
Could you live happily if all around you were dying, starving, homeless while you and your family lived comfortably and were well fed?
Wouldn't you rather spend your last days helping others ?
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I would love to help others but I have found it is impossible to help some people. Due to some people will not accept your help. I was in the store about a year or so ago and was going to pay for a lady grocery, she refused - I insisted, again - she refused. Nothing else I could do. We mean well but some people, do not want or will accept our help.
 
Shero said:
Personally, I would not go the way of the preppers. I have seen videos of people fighting over toilet paper during the pandemic. Imagine what would happen if there is a war. Anyway, if there is WW3, it will be over so quickly that all the preparation in the world will not help.
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Good point! However, I would rather have than not. Can't live on "if". I live in the here and now :D
 
There's nothing wrong with living off the grid if you can, since housing is so expensive and in most areas, you have to spend so much of your time working just to pay the bills. Living in the wild without having to hold down a regular job sounds pretty good. I understand that completely.

Hopefully, the kids are getting a good enough education. When I hear of people homeschooling their children, too often, the parents don't seem all that bright, so what kind of education are the children actually getting, and how are they going to fare when they need to provide for themselves? Are they getting sufficiently prepared for college if they choose that route?

And to live in fear of economic collapse or whatever other disaster, that's just weird. But, to each his or her own! As long as they don't hurt anyone. I don't think hunting with an AR-15 is too honorable, either, but as long as they eat what they kill, oh well.
 
Irwin said:
There's nothing wrong with living off the grid if you can, since housing is so expensive and in most areas, you have to spend so much of your time working just to pay the bills. Living in the wild without having to hold down a regular job sounds pretty good. I understand that completely.

Hopefully, the kids are getting a good enough education. When I hear of people homeschooling their children, too often, the parents don't seem all that bright, so what kind of education are the children actually getting, and how are they going to fare when they need to provide for themselves? Are they getting sufficiently prepared for college if they choose that route?

And to live in fear of economic collapse or whatever other disaster, that's just weird. But, to each his or her own! As long as they don't hurt anyone. I don't think hunting with an AR-15 is too honorable, either, but as long as they eat what they kill, oh well.
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"And to live in fear of economic collapse or whatever other disaster, that's just weird."

Preppers I know are not living in fear. When you think about it, its not so different then some of our ancestors. They prepared for a year or 2 ahead by growing large crops and canning, butchering game or domestic livestock and preserving it. To be prepared in case food was not so readily available due to bad weather preventing planting or disease of crops or livestock etc.

With global warming causing unusual weather patterns we don't know for sure what will be available in our future.

Having extra food and not needing it is better then needing it and not having it. Nothing goes to waste if you rotate what you have.
 
The Prepper movement in the 60's & 70's grew out of a mistrust of the production of food, the military industrial complex, teaching curriculums that brainwashed youngsters into becoming slaves to big business, and all for health, and well being. As @Becky1951 pointed out most all prepping before that was for survival planning. Now I can sense a new movement brought about by SHORTAGES. We are having to stock up on foods and essential goods because a lot of time they are out of stock. Which also leads to an inevitable result, living more simply so that others might live.
 
Not to mention that it doesn't have to be an end of the world scenario. We were in Los Angeles in 1994 during the 6.7 magnitude Northridge earthquake. Imagine a huge earthquake hitting in the middle of the night, and holding on to the headboard as your dresser pitched forward, watching the drawers flying out (and the glass of water on top sliding into a drawer, which cleverly closed when the dresser pitched back towards the wall).

And ... then the electricity shut off. Getting dressed and feeling our way downstairs in the dark, only to find that the front door had been jammed shut, so we had to climb out over the sliding glass door which had conveniently popped out of its tracks, and climb over the wall. Love it. Plus many, many aftershocks, making the pool water slosh over the edges.

Lovely to meet a neighbor, who felt that what we all needed was tea, which he arranged on his outdoor broiler. What a sweetheart.

And ... days of aftershocks. No going to a restaurant or somewhere for food or just to sit, as the whole area had no electricity.

Anyway, too long a story. But it's something to know that credit cards won't do in a situation like that. And to be prepared as best you can.
 
One of our elderly neighbours related how once the power was off for three weeks during a severe winter. A mobile grocery van managed to get part way through and was abandoned. When the owner returned, the van was empty, but a list of things taken, and the correct money was left for him. Now, I suspect that if the mobile network was down, half the population would die because they didn't have an 'app' to tell them everything they need to survive.
 
Capt Lightning said:
One of our elderly neighbours related how once the power was off for three weeks during a severe winter. A mobile grocery van managed to get part way through and was abandoned. When the owner returned, the van was empty, but a list of things taken, and the correct money was left for him. Now, I suspect that if the mobile network was down, half the population would die because they didn't have an 'app' to tell them everything they need to survive.
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I believe you're right. Recently I watched a Youtube Video where a 'prepper'' was talking about losing Electricity.. and how to prepare for it and her number one instruction was ... ''write down your contacts names , addresses and phone numbers on paper''... I laughed out loud,:LOL: to think that nowadays people just don't do this..because they have all contacts stored on their phones and computers .

I have all my contacts on my phone like anyone else, but I also have a back up written in longhand.. but when I thought about it , I realised that I bet even if I was to ask my very intelligent 45 year old daughter , I'd find that she too has her contacts stored only electronically..
 
Becky1951 said:
Preppers I know are not living in fear. When you think about it, its not so different then some of our ancestors. They prepared for a year or 2 ahead by growing large crops and canning, butchering game or domestic livestock and preserving it. To be prepared in case food was not so readily available due to bad weather preventing planting or disease of crops or livestock etc.
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Good points, Becky. You reminded me of Joseph, in the Bible, who dreamed about a famine, told the Pharaoh his dream, and so they collected seven years worth of grain and stored it.

How in the world did people manage before freezers and canned food? Imagine living for years on a steady diet of something like fish jerky and oatmeal.

I just went to the store two days in a row because I decided to make cookies and kept needing more ingredients. I had depleted my baking goods for health reasons so I had to buy; flour, white sugar, brown sugar, baking soda, Crisco, butter, eggs, chocolate chips -- and go back for vanilla.

A few years ago, just before Thanksgiving, I walked into Kroger and actually choked-up a little. The produce shelves were not only full to overflowing, most items had extra bins in front. We live with such abundance all the time and usually take it for granted.
 

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