Prince Andrew sued by accuser (Epstein scandal)

For the life of me, I cannot conceive of Andrew going after a 17yr. old at all. Girls began swarming over him when he reached his teens and were just crestfallen when he married Fergie. If and I think it's a big if, he had anything at all to do with this girl, he had to be under the impression that she was older. Further, she went to London quite willingly, not forcibly at all and had a checkered history already. Something very fishy about all this. Especially 20 yrs. after the fact.
 

Andrew is older now, no longer attractive. His swarming says long gone. As for the girl’s behaviour, I think it is difficult to understand what went on in that girl’s mind. It is very common, also, for decades to pass before victims of abuse find the courage to come forward, particularly when accusing people of wealth and privilege.
 
Lewkat said:
For the life of me, I cannot conceive of Andrew going after a 17yr. old at all. Girls began swarming over him when he reached his teens and were just crestfallen when he married Fergie. If and I think it's a big if, he had anything at all to do with this girl, he had to be under the impression that she was older. Further, she went to London quite willingly, not forcibly at all and had a checkered history already. Something very fishy about all this. Especially 20 yrs. after the fact.
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Have you seen the photo of a sauve Andrew with his arm tightly wrapped around the victim? He claimed it is doctored. Fat chance since his friend, Ghislane Maxwell (Balliol College alumna), is also in the photo. When she goes on trial in NYC in November, I would bet the prosecutor is going to ask her about that photo.
 

Shalimar said:
I know from personal experience how terrifying it can be to feel helpless in the “hands“ of the rich and powerful. 16/17 year olds have immature minds, easily manipulated. It is speculative to suggest she was a willing participant or that she was cash hungry. Please, let us not perpetuate the stereotype of blaming the victim for their own abuse.
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I believe that it's widely considered that the brain is not fully developed by that age. Probably not even by 18 but that is usually the age someone is considered an adult. So I agree, it's young and someone can be very easily manipulated and not even realize it.
 
Why did his wife divorce him when their children
were very young?

There was great speculation at the time.

Mike.
 
Nosy Bee-54 said:
Have you seen the photo of a sauve Andrew with his arm tightly wrapped around the victim? He claimed it is doctored. Fat chance since his friend, Ghislane Maxwell (Balliol College alumna), is also in the photo. When she goes on trial in NYC in November, I would bet the prosecutor is going to ask her about that photo.
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I believe it will be Numero Uno Exhibit....
 
Lewkat said:
For the life of me, I cannot conceive of Andrew going after a 17yr. old at all. Girls began swarming over him when he reached his teens and were just crestfallen when he married Fergie. If and I think it's a big if, he had anything at all to do with this girl, he had to be under the impression that she was older. Further, she went to London quite willingly, not forcibly at all and had a checkered history already. Something very fishy about all this. Especially 20 yrs. after the fact.
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I'm not condoning, or supporting PA in any way.. believe me I've met him and he's an arrogant piece of whatsit... but I've always believed he was under the impression that the girl was of legal age
 
I wish I could believe him, but there is just something about it, that makes me doubt him.
He protests too much and with such arrogance.

Although technically she was of the age of consent in many countries and was not held against her will.
Her parents signed for her passport and travel documents.

I believe she was groomed into prostitution by Epstein and she missed her chance to sue him or his estate.
She didn't do herself any favours by accusing the Mexican President under oath and then recanting it.
The law and the press do not take purgery lightly.
My heart breaks for her, it really does.
 
mellowyellow said:
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London Metropolitan Police chief Cressida Dick said the force would review the claims, after previously opting not to open an investigation. Ms Dick told LBC radio: "As a result of what is going on, I've asked my team to have another look at the material. No one is above the law…..

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/uk-police-to-review-prince-andrew-allegations
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the met police and particularly Ms Dick, are as useless as a Chocolate fireguard....
 
Ghislane Maxwell would recruit these girls right in front of their schools. The girls, some as young as thirteen, would be standing around waiting for the bus and Ghislane would appear to be waiting also, then start chatting with the girls and begin telling them about amazing jobs, learning to give massages at resorts, or in the homes of the very rich. So the girls would show up to learn how to give massages and Epstein or Maxwell would soon be talking them into doing more.

What I can never figure out is -- what were the girls' parents thinking? Did they have no idea where their daughters were going nights and weekends? Even if they were doing legitimate massages, don't people need a type of medical training for that? In any case, who would think that was a good job for a young girl?

I'm not sure what Prince Andrew thought, old men paying young women for sex is repulsive to me, but I don't know if he committed a crime. She could easily pass for 18 in those pictures.

The person who is really beneath contempt is Ghislane. A woman purposely procuring school girls is just despicable.
 
I suspect she's hoping for the normal American out of court settlement buI don't think HM will approve.

The only possible offence in the UK is procuring, and since he wasn't the procurer any charge will be difficult to sustain.

She also looks so happy and relaxed in his company that coercion or drugs would be hard to prove.

Of course if he ever visits US administered territory you'll string him up by his dangly bits, but that ain't going to happen!
 
hollydolly said:
I know a secret about Prince Andrew.. ( which could have been what ended his marriage)... however annoyingly for you all I can't reveal the secret for fear of being sued...
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I have to say I am not usually much interested in anything to do with British Royalty or most of the Rich and Famous. But your post did perk my interest a bit...

Don't suppose you will ever tell us, and maybe that will keep it intriguing.
 
Cressida Dick has a few skeletons in cupboard in various
places, she is not a good example of policing, if the media
can be believed, but there is no smoke without fire!

Charles Menendes comes to mind, a Brazilian electrician who
was shot dead on the tube, by her team.

Mike.
 
Lewkat said:
For the life of me, I cannot conceive of Andrew going after a 17yr. old at all. Girls began swarming over him when he reached his teens and were just crestfallen when he married Fergie. If and I think it's a big if, he had anything at all to do with this girl, he had to be under the impression that she was older. Further, she went to London quite willingly, not forcibly at all and had a checkered history already. Something very fishy about all this. Especially 20 yrs. after the fact.
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Haha , had to laugh at your comment lewkat......then you don’t know our royal family very much....where do I begin 🙄🤐
 
Lewkat said:
For the life of me, I cannot conceive of Andrew going after a 17yr. old at all. Girls began swarming over him when he reached his teens and were just crestfallen when he married Fergie. If and I think it's a big if, he had anything at all to do with this girl, he had to be under the impression that she was older. Further, she went to London quite willingly, not forcibly at all and had a checkered history already. Something very fishy about all this. Especially 20 yrs. after the fact.
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Not that I don't believe the complainant, but the court filing linked in the OP reads more like a gossip column than a legal document.
 
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