Prince Andrew & Virginia Giuffre Reach Agreement

hollydolly said:
The daily mail says 7.5 million...
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It's all guess work, Holly. The reality may be that she had her lawyer's fees paid and some travel expenses, the remainder of which I doubt is very much to charity, as his lawyers demanded that the original picture of her and supposedly Andrew be brought forth. She definitely demurred on that, stating she did not know where the original was. There's always much more to these tales than we'll ever know. I don't why she picked a British Prince to go after. The Brits would never pay up a lot of dough for so sordid a story and he has to rely on public funds to a great degree. If he had his mother's money, that would be a different kettle of fish, but he was just a sailor and nothing more.
 

Lewkat said:
It's all guess work, Holly. The reality may be that she had her lawyer's fees paid and some travel expenses, the remainder of which I doubt is very much to charity, as his lawyers demanded that the original picture of her and supposedly Andrew be brought forth. She definitely demurred on that, stating she did not know where the original was. There's always much more to these tales than we'll ever know. I don't why she picked a British Prince to go after. The Brits would never pay up a lot of dough for so sordid a story and he has to rely on public funds to a great degree. If he had his mother's money, that would be a different kettle of fish, but he was just a sailor and nothing more.
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...yet he has plenty of money, enough to have sold his chalet for multi millions to pay off his bill.... anyone who thinks he's living on a Helicopter Pilot, and Ships' captains' retirement wages is very much mistaken. He also gets paid almost a 1/4 million pounds for his royal duties and that's not counting all the other side jobs he gets paid for ...and being a British Royal, up until this latest expose ..he probably never had to spend a penny of his salary.. on anything very much. People all too willing to give freebies to Royals...
 
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hollydolly said:
Prince Andrew has dramatically settled the bombshell sexual abuse lawsuit with Virginia Giuffre after he agreed an undisclosed deal said to be worth £7.5million with his accuser without admitting her accusations.

Court documents filed in New York this morning revealed the Duke of York and Mrs Giuffre have reached a 'settlement in principle' in the civil sex claim - but royal experts said it was 'very, very unlikely' that there was a way back to public royal life for the Queen's son.

And one royal source told MailOnline: 'I'm sure that Charles has had enough and blown a gasket. Charles would have said to him that he needed to get this sorted out as soon as possible and before the Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebrations begin. Charles did not want this hanging over the Royal Family this year.'

Andrew will now make a 'substantial donation' to Mrs Giuffre's charity supporting victims' rights, and praised her 'bravery' and that of other trafficking victims, saying he has 'never intended' to malign her character.

Mrs Giuffre, previously known as Virginia Roberts, sued him last August, alleging he sexually abused her more than two decades ago when she was 17, a minor under US law, while the late financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking her.

Although the parties have settled, the agreement is not an admission of guilt from Andrew and he has always strenuously denied the allegations against him.

And the Duke, 61, said in his statement today that he 'regrets his association with Epstein' and pledged to demonstrate this 'by supporting the fight against the evils of sex trafficking, and by supporting its victims'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ed-settlement-principle-Virginia-Giuffre.html
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He is only 61? :oops: Looks like he is at least 71. Lots of hard partying I'd guess.
 

hollydolly said:
I see your point and I would agree if it was someone more naive and innocent and had been snatched off the street to work as a sex slave. None of these things happened to her, it was her choice to do this to earn money.. the shame is that she didn't have a parent figure to guide her in the right direction..but she knew what she was doing, and she made a lot of money from it..

What is more surprising is that she doesn't seem to be suing any of the other John Does' with whom she was servicing ( excuse the vernacular) ..perhaps because they weren't rich enough..or famous enough.. but she did get 1/2 a million in compensation already from Epstein..and now allegedly 7.5 million from PA.. she knew then what she was doing, and she knows now... IMO
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Your point of view is very much the same as many of my friends and family and, you may all be right.

We don't know what happened to Virginia or other youngsters like her to set her on the path she subsequently took, we also do not know that she was neither naive or innocent when she found herself being drawn into a circle of older people who seemingly had no conscience when it came to abusing teenage girls.

I don't think it is surprising that she is not suing other John Does. Her legal team would no doubt be orchestrating proceedings and I imagine they thought it best to put their resources into pursuing the bigger fish. On that score, I agree, it is a pity that they have not all been held to account.

You are correct of course, it is a matter of record that she got a payment from Epstein but, in my view, no amount of money changes the fact that at 17 years old she was, in my opinion, a victim of abuse.
 
Trish said:
I know my view is an unpopular one and I am not trying to bait anyone here but, my feeling is one of sadness that a 17 year old girl could ever be regarded as anything other than a victim, regardless of whether as a teenager she thought it was okay or not. Virginia Giuffre has, in my opinion, had the courage to speak up and I hope she and other victims can now move on and that her charity will continue to offer support and help to those who need it.
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QFT. ❤️❤️❤️
 
The majority of seventeen year olds lack the maturity to make fully adult decisions. It is sad when some people expect them to do so. In my opinion, focus for blame is better shifted to those adults who were truly culpable in her victimisation. It is very easy for predatory individuals to manipulate and gaslight vulnerable adolescents.
 
Re the photo:

"Before he settled out of court last night, Prince Andrew was set to be dealt a major blow in his US sex case thanks to Ghislaine Maxwell.

A leaked email from the prince's friend and now convicted sex trafficker appeared to confirm the authenticity of an infamous picture of the duke standing with his arm around his accuser, Virginia Roberts.

The photograph, said to be taken in Maxwell's London townhouse in 2001, had been questioned by Andrew and just this week his legal team had demanded Miss Roberts turn over the original."
 
hollydolly said:
Miss Roberts has stated she no longer has the photo in her possession...
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This is not the first time that photo has been published over the years. Surely if it had been a fake, it would have been disputed years ago.

"On a dramatic day of developments yesterday, it was claimed that Miss Roberts had lost the original copy of the image.

But that was disputed by her legal team, who said the hard copy was with the FBI and that Miss Roberts misplaced a CD containing a copy of the image.

The photo was set to be a key piece of evidence in her claims for battery and infliction of emotional distress against Andrew, 61, which he had denied."
 
UK newspapers twisted the knife on Wednesday with numerous headlines suggesting the deal amounted to anywhere between £10 and 12 million ($13-$16 million). The Daily Mail splashed with "Duke's final '£10 million humiliation," The Sun newspaper ran with "His final disgrace," while The Daily Telegraph reported "Queen to help pay for £12m settlement."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/uk/prince-andrew-sex-abuse-case-analysis-intl-gbr/index.html
 

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