Progress on Australian Same Sex Marriage Bill

fuzzybuddy said:
Sunny, you are totally correct. If the baker, FOR ANY REASON, did not want to bake a cake for a customer, he could come with some lame excuse- he's over booked, etc. He does not say, "According to my religion, God denounces you as sinners. And because you are such deviants sinners, my religion prevents me from using my talents to bake you a cake". That is what you say when you want a Supreme Court case.
The short version of this is "my religion allows me to discriminate against you"
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Is that what he said. Or did he just say it's against my religion. Don't embellish. State the exact facts.
 

This issue is such a can of worms that I think the only solution is the one I originally proposed: Let the guy turn down the customers if he wishes. But let word of mouth go out about it, and he will pay the price in lost business.

Of course, this could backfire. Some people might start using his shop just because he turned down the gay couple. The end result would depend on which group is in the majority in that area.

And pitting the "religious" beliefs of one person against the civil rights of another? Sometimes hard to answer. If the "religious" person is, say, driving a public bus and refuses to allow gay people to sit together, he is clearly violating their civil rights. But what if he is, for instance, a cab or Uber driver? Who gets to make the rules?
 
I think the couple could have got a cake somewhere else or decorated one themselves.

There is no special exemption just because they want to complain about it.
 

The fact that you own a business does not entitle you to discriminate others. Tell me why, if you own a business; you can't put up a sign, which says, "We don't serve no N*g**rs. It's against my religion." Don't you own the business?
 
Not together but between them they already have four children from previous marriages.

The wedding is a big deal because Christine Forster and her brother Tony Abbott are both high profile politicians and campaigned on opposite sides of the SSM debate. They are newsworthy in their own right and everyone was wondering whether Tony would even attend the wedding but, as you can see from the article, he was there with his wife and mother, who was also the mother of one of the brides.
 
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