Racial Injustice?

Nate007 said:
I'm sorry you had to go through all of that. I can only imagine how difficult it was to live through it. I've had friends who have been through those tough times. While growing up, if they were to speak up about it, there's always a few people trying to silence them or accuse them of lying.

What's being reported now isn't just from the news. It's a lot of personal anecdotes told through social media. These stories don't surprise me at all, having witness some of these incidents.
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My school days were filled with kids who also were discriminated against .. Italian, German, East Indian and Chinese. We all hung out together and formed a close bond. You could say that racial discrimination brought us together.
 

I have seen instances of not just racial injustices, but other types of injustices, as well. Passengers asking to be moved because the person next to them is the wrong color, wrong religion, too fat, too talkative and on it goes. People can be cruel and have no remorse. Too many people have the feeling of entitlement.
 
oldman said:
I was watching a part of the "Today Show" this morning and they did a segment on how the Chinese population in our cities are being yelled at, threatened and cursed because people think they should not be allowed to be out and about. Have we become that insensitive to our fellow man? What is it about some people where they believe stereotyping a race is a way to fix a problem?

I watched as one American woman yelled at a young Chinese female, "Go home and take the virus with you." There was also a young male doctor that was being threatened with bodily harm, but luckily for him, a larger man stepped in and calmed the situation.
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Well, I don't know of any Chinese in this area, and haven't talked to family/friends in other areas lately, but one friend who's originally from a not-well-known city that has a diverse population and for some unknown reason a lot of racism told me that's exactly what's going on there- that the virus is just another excuse to discriminate against and mistreat that particular group.
 

Pinky said:
My school days were filled with kids who also were discriminated against .. Italian, German, East Indian and Chinese. We all hung out together and formed a close bond. You could say that racial discrimination brought us together.
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Having taught young children, I know that discrimination is also taught. Without this negative training, the children in my classes showed no such tendencies. It isn't inately human, in my opinion.
 
Em in Ohio said:
Having taught young children, I know that discrimination is also taught. Without this negative training, the children in my classes showed no such tendencies. It isn't inately human, in my opinion.
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Correct, it’s their parents or a friends parents or a family member, but keep in mind that other, hmm, colors discriminate against white people as well. It is not a one way street.
 
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Lewkat said:
During WWII after Pearl Harbor we sent American born Japanese families to internment camps. This did not work out well at all. They lost everything. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail now.
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Well......there is the other side. Put / keep all your perceived enemies in one place. And besides, if their brethren / homeland? Had not bombed Pearl....it never would have happened, as such, the monster's in the mirror. There were Germans rounded up as well....When Germany declared war on us.


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Internment of German resident aliens and German-American citizens occurred in the United States during the periods of World War I & World War II. ... Many more had distant German ancestry. During WWII, the United States detained at least 11,000 ethnic Germans, overwhelmingly German nationals.
 
I'm a 3rd generation Japanese-Canadian. Parents were 2nd generation JC's. Japan was not their "homeland". The government seized properties (houses, fishing boats, businesses), breaking their promise to return them after the war. Instead, they sold those properties, and kept the money from the sales. My father joined the Canadian Army .. and that's the only reason my mother was not interned in a camp. She was sent to a sugar beet farm.
 
My 25 yo granddaughter has been on the end of racial abuse due to the virus
My daughter married a man from Vietnam who has lived in Australia since he was a baby
(They divorced a long time ago ) they have 2 daughters .

I lived in the city of Adelaide ( suburb) years ago when the GD were young one day we were waking to the park and a man who lived further down the street came outside and demanded I walk on the other side of the street with the girls as he didn’t want “kids like that waking now his side of the street “
 
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oldman said:
I'll tell you what. As soon as I feel it's OK to do so, I'm going back to my favorite Chinese restaurant "China Village" and have me some Orange Chicken over white rice. It's the best I ever had.
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Can't wait for the Chinese restaurants to reopen,love the stuff!!!!!
 
Pinky said:
I'm a 3rd generation Japanese-Canadian. Parents were 2nd generation JC's. Japan was not their "homeland". The government seized properties (houses, fishing boats, businesses), breaking their promise to return them after the war. Instead, they sold those properties, and kept the money from the sales. My father joined the Canadian Army .. and that's the only reason my mother was not interned in a camp. She was sent to a sugar beet farm.
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A shameful Canadian past. I’m sorry this happened to you. It’s a horrible thing to haze to go through.
Kadee46 said:
a man who lived further down the street came outside and demanded I walk on the other side of the street with the girls as he didn’t want “kids like that waking now his side of the street.”
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🙁How sad.
 
Pinky said:
I'm a 3rd generation Japanese-Canadian. Parents were 2nd generation JC's. Japan was not their "homeland". The government seized properties (houses, fishing boats, businesses), breaking their promise to return them after the war. Instead, they sold those properties, and kept the money from the sales. My father joined the Canadian Army .. and that's the only reason my mother was not interned in a camp. She was sent to a sugar beet farm.
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"Japan was not their "homeland".

Never said it was....But right after the attack, I doubt anyone cared....dare i say it....your family looked just like those that flew the planes, and those that were actually in the white-house negotiating an agreement on the trade embargo. How could we trust anyone that looked like the enemy ? Cold / harsh, yes, I get it but....true just the same. As for the seized property? Yes I think they[govt] could have held it for a few years, till the war was over.....then returned to those that posed no threat.

I'm sorry that it happened to your family, but Japan should have never attacked us . And Germany should have never got as close as they did @ the Aleutians &/or Long Island,the Gulf etc.
 
rgp said:
"Japan was not their "homeland".

Never said it was....But right after the attack, I doubt anyone cared....dare i say it....your family looked just like those that flew the planes, and those that were actually in the white-house negotiating an agreement on the trade embargo. How could we trust anyone that looked like the enemy ? Cold / harsh, yes, I get it but....true just the same. As for the seized property? Yes I think they[govt] could have held it for a few years, till the war was over.....then returned to those that posed no threat.

I'm sorry that it happened to your family, but Japan should have never attacked us . And Germany should have never got as close as they did @ the Aleutians &/or Long Island,the Gulf etc.
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I think it was wrong what happened to German Americans as well.

You have your opinion, but it doesn't make what was done, right.
 
Pinky said:
I think it was wrong what happened to German Americans as well.

You have your opinion, but it doesn't make what was done, right.
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I do also. Canada made a huge mistake. These were Canadian citizens. It’s unfortunate that innocent people had to suffer for the mistake of others.
 
rgp said:
I never stated "my opinion"....only what happened. Please do not put words in my mouth.
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Pardon me .. it appeared you agreed with what was done. In any case, you sound as though you are putting forth an argument that justifies it.
 
Keesha said:
I do also. Canada made a huge mistake. These were Canadian citizens. It’s unfortunate that innocent people had to suffer for the mistake of others.
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Sorry Keesha...burning the toast is a mistake......sending 353 fighter bomber airplanes to drop tons upon tons of bombs on [@ that time] non-combatant innocent people is an absolute act of aggression / war! The defending country has every right to defend itself, as it sees fit.
 
rgp said:
Sorry Keesha...burning the toast is a mistake......sending 353 fighter bomber airplanes to drop tons upon tons of bombs on [@ that time] non-combatant innocent people is an absolute act of aggression / war! The defending country has every right to defend itself, as it sees fit.
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Well .. bombing Hiroshima put an end to it all, didn't it?
End of discussion for me.
 
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Pinky said:
Pardon me .. it appeared you agreed with what was done. In any case, you sound as though you are putting forth an argument that justifies it.
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Can't speak for Canada / Canadians but down here.....people were scared silly after the attack....I seriously doubt they were worried about political correctness.

And again, I expressed no personal thoughts or opinion......you are assuming.....I really wish you would not do that.
 
rgp said:
"Japan was not their "homeland".

Never said it was....But right after the attack, I doubt anyone cared....dare i say it....your family looked just like those that flew the planes, and those that were actually in the white-house negotiating an agreement on the trade embargo. How could we trust anyone that looked like the enemy ? Cold / harsh, yes, I get it but....true just the same. As for the seized property? Yes I think they[govt] could have held it for a few years, till the war was over.....then returned to those that posed no threat.

I'm sorry that it happened to your family, but Japan should have never attacked us . And Germany should have never got as close as they did @ the Aleutians &/or Long Island,the Gulf etc.
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rgp said:
I never stated "my opinion"....only what happened. Please do not put words in my mouth.
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Japan was not their homeland?
These people belonged in Canada. It WAS ‘their’ homeland.


It IS an opinion when you say :
I doubt anybody cared?
You don’t know that for sure. You weren’t there so YES it’s then considered a personal opinion.

Your family looked just like those who flew the planes?
Another personal opinion. How do you know?
Again, you weren’t there so it’s hearsay.

How could ‘we’ trust anyone that looked like the enemy?
Another personal opinion. YOU can’t speak for an entire country.

I’m sorry this happened to your family but Japan should never have attacked us?
Once again, a personal opinion.
Her family didn’t attack you !
 
Pinky said:
Well .. bombinb Hiroshima put an end to it all, didn't it?
End of discussion for me.
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Actually Nagasaki but....And Japan had been given several warnings to stop / surrender before the big-bombs were dropped.

Glad that did end it....likely millions of lives were saved avoiding ground warfare.....Now that is opinion by me, and those more knowledgeable than myself.
 
Keesha said:
Japan was not their homeland?
These people belonged in Canada. It WAS ‘their’ homeland.

Pinky said it was not their homeland....not me...and I never said that they did not "belong" in Canada.


"It IS an opinion when you say :
I doubt anybody cared?
You don’t know that for sure. You weren’t there so YES it’s then considered a personal opinion."

Ok, change that to I know for sure no body cared....I remember all too well, hearing my parents talk about it, as well as the war era guys i worked with for years....they just plain did not care.

Your family looked just like those who flew the planes?
"Another personal opinion. How do you know?
Again, you weren’t there so it’s hearsay."

It is not opinion to say that one person of a certain decent , does look like another person of that decent.

How could ‘we’ trust anyone that looked like the enemy?
"Another personal opinion. YOU can’t speak for an entire country."

Read it again...it was a question.

I’m sorry this happened to your family, but Japan should never have attacked us?
"Once again, a personal opinion."
Her family didn’t attack you !

Read it again, I never said her family attacked anyone.....I said Japan should have never attacked us.
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rgp said:
Sorry Keesha...burning the toast is a mistake......sending 353 fighter bomber airplanes to drop tons upon tons of bombs on [@ that time] non-combatant innocent people is an absolute act of aggression / war! The defending country has every right to defend itself, as it sees fit.
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Not when "as it sees fit" includes harming its own citizens.
 
Rgp! You don’t know for sure that nobody cared because you can’t speak for everyone. In your personal opinion ; from your perspective , it may have appeared like nobody cared about them but you don’t know that for certain. Do you not think any of these people had friends or acquaintances? Church fellowship? Nurses / doctors / social services ?
Not everyone instantly hates others because governments decide to.

According to your personal opinion, everyone in the country hated her family merely because they have Japanese heritage.

It certainly IS an opinion when you make broad sweeping generalizations about a race of people. Thats like saying all white people look the same.
No they don’t.

Yes you said that Japanese shouldn’t have attacked us..... meaning that’s all the justification needed for treating anyone ‘you’ ‘they’ deemed as the enemy.

My main argument with you is that you don’t understand or recognize that your posts ARE racist. Yes I completely understand there was a war and this is how you were all trained but that doesn’t mean everyone in an entire country felt that same hatred as you and those you knew. That’s something you are assuming which is basically stereotyping an entire nation.
 

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