Religions ongoing war on the left

So.... how close to a Theocracy do they want? never mind.

What happens to the millions and millions of couples who were married by judges? Would their marriages be voided?
 
oakapple said:
Gay marriage is legal here, from the State's point of view, but not allowed by the Church.
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And that's fine... The Church has a right to not allow Gay marriage.. But they also do not want Gays to be able to be married by the State... ie.. No civil ceremonies... and that is over stepping their bounds IMO.. That is dictating policy to the State and more than steps all over the Constitution.
 
QuickSilver said:
And that's fine... The Church has a right to not allow Gay marriage.. But they also do not want Gays to be able to be married by the State... ie.. No civil ceremonies... and that is over stepping their bounds IMO.. That is dictating policy to the State and more than steps all over the Constitution.
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Yeah! Where's our Constitution Scholar, BobF?
 
QuickSilver said:
And that's fine... The Church has a right to not allow Gay marriage.. But they also do not want Gays to be able to be married by the State... ie.. No civil ceremonies... and that is over stepping their bounds IMO.. That is dictating policy to the State and more than steps all over the Constitution.
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A religious group cannot dictate to the State though, even if it tries, can it?
 
oakapple said:
A religious group cannot dictate to the State though, even if it tries, can it?
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No... not according to the US constitution, but that has never stopped them from trying their darnedest.. Seems only PARTS of our constitution need to be followed to the letter.... others... well.. not so much.
 
Don't even get me STARTED on the infestation of ultra conservative bible pounding maniacs trying to take over this country's government. Anyone remember 'separation of church and state' from that little document we all like to imagine that we base our lives upon?! I always ask these self-righteous purveyors of unbridled hatred how they can claim to follow a god who allegedly loves EVERYBODY, while they are doing absolutely everything they can to encourage vicious legislation against LGBT's, immigrants, blacks and the chronically ill.

Read the bible much, guys? I have, and I really kinda liked it. Nothing in there about persecuting anyone who doesn't see things your way, though. Fundamentalist and Evangelical Christians are the overarching reason I am an Atheist!
 
With a decision on same-sex marriage from the U.S. Supreme Court expected before the end of the month, a lawmaker in Michigan is proposing a bill that would require all marriages in the state be performed and signed by a religious leader.
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Jim, based on your link, the evidence is very thin that religion is waging an ongoing war on the left. Can you name the churches/denominations/religions that have made representations in support of a bill to only allow marriages performed by a religious leader?

Over here a lot of Christian ministers are saying the opposite - that all marriages should be civil marriages to be legal and people may have a second marriage according to their religious beliefs if they so desire.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Jim, based on your link, the evidence is very thin that religion is waging an ongoing war on the left. Can you name the churches/denominations/religions that have made representations in support of a bill to only allow marriages performed by a religious leader?

Over here a lot of Christian ministers are saying the opposite - that all marriages should be civil marriages to be legal and people may have a second marriage according to their religious beliefs if they so desire.
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Once again geography seems to be the missing bridge to understanding. If you are asking me to do a full scale search to show you the evidence of my claim, I choose not to. You, on the other hand, have every right to suggest I am unable to support my charge.
 
AZ Jim said:
Dame Warrigal said:
Jim, based on your link, the evidence is very thin that religion is waging an ongoing war on the left. Can you name the churches/denominations/religions that have made representations in support of a bill to only allow marriages performed by a religious leader?

Over here a lot of Christian ministers are saying the opposite - that all marriages should be civil marriages to be legal and people may have a second marriage according to their religious beliefs if they so desire.
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Once again geography seems to be the missing bridge to understanding. If you are asking me to do a full scale search to show you the evidence of my claim, I choose not to. You, on the other hand, have every right to suggest I am unable to support my charge.
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Which we do, Jim.
 
truespock said:
Don't even get me STARTED on the infestation of ultra conservative bible pounding maniacs trying to take over this country's government. Anyone remember 'separation of church and state' from that little document we all like to imagine that we base our lives upon?! I always ask these self-righteous purveyors of unbridled hatred how they can claim to follow a god who allegedly loves EVERYBODY, while they are doing absolutely everything they can to encourage vicious legislation against LGBT's, immigrants, blacks and the chronically ill.

Read the bible much, guys? I have, and I really kinda liked it. Nothing in there about persecuting anyone who doesn't see things your way, though. Fundamentalist and Evangelical Christians are the overarching reason I am an Atheist!
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Great post, Truespock, except you left out a major group of people these idiots encourage vicious legislation against - a major group that is, in fact, the majority - WOMEN!
 
Glinda said:
Great post, Truespock, except you left out a major group of people these idiots encourage vicious legislation against - a major group that is, in fact, the majority - WOMEN!
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DAMMIT! I just KNEW I was leaving somebody important out.

By the way, Glinda, I have a major crush on you from your profile picture, but I let Shalimar distract me when I was here three months ago. Wanna hang out?
 
truespock said:
DAMMIT! I just KNEW I was leaving somebody important out.

By the way, Glinda, I have a major crush on you from your profile picture, but I let Shalimar distract me when I was here three months ago. Wanna hang out?
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Get in the long line of senior members Spok man.
 
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