Remember, there is no FDA approved vaccine

Sunny said:
Please do not accuse me of fabricating statements, just because you don't like them. I got my information from Dr. Gupta on TV yesterday, who cited that information in his desperate plea for all Americans who are eligible to get the vaccine ASAP. As he and Dr. Fauci are probably the top medical experts in the country on this subject, I tend to give more credence to what he says than to the people that you "personally know."
Click to expand...
Sunny.

I didn't say YOU fabricated the statement I'm just saying the statement is fabricated. So whether you did or not I don't know.
Those Doctors on TV have an agenda. The network they were on has an agenda.
This whole situation is driven by people with agendas.
So you give more credence to someone you saw on TV than the people I personally know that died from the vax?
Go for it.
 

Sunny said:
I wonder if they have any idea how long the antibodies last, in the people who got them by actually having the illness, as opposed to the antibodies produced by the vaccine? In other words, iwill either of them (or both of them) confer immunity forever?

I imagine it's too soon to know.
Click to expand...
I don't think the immunity will last beyond a year no matter which way you had immunity.

Just like the flu Covid mutates and just like the flu vaccine is needed each flu season.

The difference being we have a "flu season", but Covid is year round.. so a shot every 12 months from date of last vaccination?
 
Sunny said:
Please do not accuse me of fabricating statements, just because you don't like them. I got my information from Dr. Gupta on TV yesterday, who cited that information in his desperate plea for all Americans who are eligible to get the vaccine ASAP. As he and Dr. Fauci are probably the top medical experts in the country on this subject, I tend to give more credence to what he says than to the people that you "personally know."
Click to expand...
You mean the one's who have both been well paid by cnn? I won't waste my time doing your research. This example only took 20 seconds on google.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

cnn feed.jpg
 

Others can do as they wish. We are tired of sitting around the house, and we have received both doses of the Moderna vaccine...with no side effects, other than a slight pain in the shoulder for a couple of days. Now, we feel far more confident about visiting the kids and grandkids, and plan to make a casino trip in the next couple of weeks....and start living like we used to.

Insofar as any "government approval" is concerned.....the way the government drags its feet on most things....I would far rather trust the scientists and doctors, than any government bureaucrats.

About the Only question, in my mind, is how long these vaccines will remain active, and if we will have to get an annual booster shot, as this virus evolves.
 
Rather amusing:
"Why did you get the vaccine? To safeguard your health & prevent getting Covid?"
"No. I was just tired of sitting around the house."
 
Don M. said:
I participated in a "teleconference", hosted by our local US Representative a couple of weeks ago. One of the "participants" broached the "theory" that this Virus is a "global conspiracy" by the world governments to actively reduce global populations. He rambled on further that killing off millions of Seniors will keep Social Security from facing a financial crisis in coming years. Amazing!
Click to expand...
Not sure if it's true.. but I heard something similar as well. People are living longer.
 
win231 said:
We're over a year into this. That includes the first 3 months with no social distancing, no staying home & no masks - just gloom & doom news. Anyone who didn't get Covid by now is very unlikely to get it ever - whether the vaccine works or not.
Click to expand...
I pray you are right. I took the Flu vaccine many years ago (over 30 years) and I got VERY sick. I vowed never to take it again and so far, have not gotten the flu. I cannot imagine taking the Covid vaccine.
 
Ladybj said:
I pray you are right. I took the Flu vaccine many years ago (over 30 years) and I got VERY sick. I vowed never to take it again and so far, have not gotten the flu. I cannot imagine taking the Covid vaccine.
Click to expand...
The flu shot topic is similar.
I had the flu 38 years ago & never since, even though I was around people with the flu frequently - running errands for, caring for, visiting, co-workers who came to work sick because they didn't have paid sick leave. I've never had a flu shot. If I was one of those people who rush to get flu shots, I'd probably credit the shot for never getting the flu again. Of course I'd be mistaken. I'm surprised that many people who got the flu shot & got the flu anyway don't question the shot's usefulness.

Just as with Covid, the flu shot is marketed to people with "Preexisting Conditions." My sister & I are both diabetic. She previously got flu shots on the advice of her doctor. But she stopped getting them 6 years ago when she finally connected being sick & bedridden for a week after each shot. Funny - except for an occasional cold, she hasn't been sick since she stopped getting flu shots. Perhaps people with preexisting conditions should not get flu shots. I'm not so sure about Covid shots, either. Personally, I'm not getting one. My sister did get the J & J Covid vaccine. She said, "Even if it's not effective, it's good enough if it makes me worry less about Covid." Well, confidence is half the battle, which is why I tell people, "If it makes you feel confident, go for it."
 
MarciKS said:
What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death. I had to choose between a possible reaction that could've been treated or not...or COVID. I chose the vaccine. I don't want to become another victim of COVID. If that makes me an experiment that can help others later on then so be it.

Personally I think all this tit for tat on this forum about vaxxers & non vaxxers...maskers & anti maskers seriously needs to stop. You make your bed...you lie in it with your decisions. I'm not mad...this is nothing personal against anyone here. Just sick of it. It's bad enough we have to deal with all this COVID crap...fighting on a forum and making snarky remarks to one another isn't going to help. I think everyone needs to take a frickin chill pill and go to their separate corners for a while and give each other a break. JMO
Click to expand...
The vaccine is out there, whether we choose it or not, it’s only a layer of protection, not the cure. I feel, especially for older folks, social distancing, facemasks, and shelter in place is still our only remedy.
 
win231 said:
The flu shot topic is similar.
I had the flu 38 years ago & never since, even though I was around people with the flu frequently - running errands for, caring for, visiting, co-workers who came to work sick because they didn't have paid sick leave. I've never had a flu shot. If I was one of those people who rush to get flu shots, I'd probably credit the shot for never getting the flu again. Of course I'd be mistaken. I'm surprised that many people who got the flu shot & got the flu anyway don't question the shot's usefulness.

Just as with Covid, the flu shot is marketed to people with "Preexisting Conditions." My sister & I are both diabetic. She previously got flu shots on the advice of her doctor. But she stopped getting them 6 years ago when she finally connected being sick & bedridden for a week after each shot. Funny - except for an occasional cold, she hasn't been sick since she stopped getting flu shots. Perhaps people with preexisting conditions should not get flu shots. I'm not so sure about Covid shots, either. Personally, I'm not getting one. My sister did get the J & J Covid vaccine. She said, "Even if it's not effective, it's good enough if it makes me worry less about Covid." Well, confidence is half the battle, which is why I tell people, "If it makes you feel confident, go for it."
Click to expand...
Love your post... exactly. If it makes people feel confident, do what's best for you and I will do what's best for me. I am sure my hubby does not notice but every since he got the flu shot a few months ago..he has had the sniffles and constantly blowing his nose. Again, he feel confident about.. that's what matters. He said eventually he will be getting the COVID. He said, eventually, everyone will have to get it.. I soooooo disagreed with him and the boxing gloves almost came on...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
At this point in time I'm not going to get the vaccine. I'm not one to get flu shots or go for any routine tests of any kind. So far so good, my luck may run out at anytime.
This is my personal choice and I would never impose my decision on others.
If in the future it is proven to be entirely safe I may get it for the sake of others. I will continue to wear my mask and do everything else to protect the people I'm around.
I do have a concern about not getting the vaccine. Right now it is not mandatory but I wonder if in the future people who haven't had the vaccine will be excluded from certain public places.
Do they issue you a card with the dates that you have been vaccinated? I haven't heard. This to me would be a round about way of enforcing people to get vaccinated.
For example, I can see myself in the future going to a museum with my grandkids and being told I need to show proof of my vaccination.
 
Ruth n Jersey said:
Do they issue you a card with the dates that you have been vaccinated? I haven't heard. This to me would be a round about way of enforcing people to get vaccinated.
For example, I can see myself in the future going to a museum with my grandkids and being told I need to show proof of my vaccination.
Click to expand...
Yes they do issue you a card, with the dates you were vaccinated and with which vaccine.
 
Ruth n Jersey said:
At this point in time I'm not going to get the vaccine. I'm not one to get flu shots or go for any routine tests of any kind. So far so good, my luck may run out at anytime.
This is my personal choice and I would never impose my decision on others.
If in the future it is proven to be entirely safe I may get it for the sake of others. I will continue to wear my mask and do everything else to protect the people I'm around.
I do have a concern about not getting the vaccine. Right now it is not mandatory but I wonder if in the future people who haven't had the vaccine will be excluded from certain public places.
Do they issue you a card with the dates that you have been vaccinated? I haven't heard. This to me would be a round about way of enforcing people to get vaccinated.
For example, I can see myself in the future going to a museum with my grandkids and being told I need to show proof of my vaccination.The
Click to expand...
If they want to show proof of a vaccine shot...they will be breaking HIPPA laws.
 
Ruth n Jersey said:
At this point in time I'm not going to get the vaccine. I'm not one to get flu shots or go for any routine tests of any kind. So far so good, my luck may run out at anytime.
This is my personal choice and I would never impose my decision on others.
If in the future it is proven to be entirely safe I may get it for the sake of others. I will continue to wear my mask and do everything else to protect the people I'm around.
I do have a concern about not getting the vaccine. Right now it is not mandatory but I wonder if in the future people who haven't had the vaccine will be excluded from certain public places.
Do they issue you a card with the dates that you have been vaccinated? I haven't heard. This to me would be a round about way of enforcing people to get vaccinated.
For example, I can see myself in the future going to a museum with my grandkids and being told I need to show proof of my vaccination.
Click to expand...
Yes, you are issued a card with the dates on it to prove you are vaccinated.
 
Ladybj said:
If they want to show proof of a vaccine shot...they will be breaking HIPPA laws.
Click to expand...
Not necessarily since showing the card would be up to you. If you do not show prove of vaccination you could be denied entrance to places, just like the lack of shirt, shoes, masks; businesses can deny anyone entrance to their stores as long as it’s not based on sex, religion, color, etc.
 
I also have that card, which I keep in a safe place. But I wonder, if anyone ever really needed it, and couldn't find it, if they could ever replace it?
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top