Remember, there is no FDA approved vaccine

squatting dog

squatting dog

Remember when... thirty seemed so old.
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I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death. I had to choose between a possible reaction that could've been treated or not...or COVID. I chose the vaccine. I don't want to become another victim of COVID. If that makes me an experiment that can help others later on then so be it.

Personally I think all this tit for tat on this forum about vaxxers & non vaxxers...maskers & anti maskers seriously needs to stop. You make your bed...you lie in it with your decisions. I'm not mad...this is nothing personal against anyone here. Just sick of it. It's bad enough we have to deal with all this COVID crap...fighting on a forum and making snarky remarks to one another isn't going to help. I think everyone needs to take a frickin chill pill and go to their separate corners for a while and give each other a break. JMO
 
Amen to what Marci just said. Enough already, Squatting Dog. Nearly everyone in this country with any common sense has either gotten the vaccine, or is eagerly looking forward to the time when they are eligible. (Even the Trumps got the vaccine, after they had the disease! I guess they don't want a return event.) It appears to be an amazing medical breakthrough; why keep fighting it? Especially, as Marci said, not getting it means running a risk of a horrible (and unnecessary) death, or severe health impairment?

On the one hand, we know we have a worldwide disease that has already killed millions. On the other hand, we have a vaccine that protects everyone who gets it. Admittedly, it's new, but it has been tested and proven safe. (Yes, some people are allergic, etc. but I'm talking about the other 99% of us.) Are we supposed to wait for the entire world population to be wiped out before we decide to give it a try? Which choice makes sense?

And even if the majority of people who get Covid do manage to survive, the business economy will not recover, the schools will not reopen, the masks will not come off, life will not return to anything like normal until we have gotten to herd immunity, thanks to mass vaccinations. So, what are you advocating, by "waiting for side effects to turn up?" Waiting and waiting just means this will go on forever, with many more unnecessary deaths.

Those who originally claimed that the disease was nothing to worry about, it's like the flu, it will be gone in a few months, turned out to be very, very wrong. For some reason, many of those same people are now falsely claiming that the vaccine is untested, unsafe, doesn't work, etc. They seem to be determined to fight against medical science, coming up with one bit of nonsense after another. And the sad thing is that some people believe them, costing them their lives.

Why are you continuing to beat a dead horse?
 

People who choose to gamble on not getting ill by not availing themselves of preventive measures are betting that if they’re wrong, there will be folks ready and willing to take care of them. They may end up being WRONG about that. Personally I consider them to be parasites.
 
I would stop posting but...

"Nearly everyone in this country with any common sense has either gotten the vaccine, or is eagerly looking forward to the time when they are eligible."

Since I'm one of the waiting, I'm accused of no common sense. 🤣🤣🤣

It would be easy to not comment on some of these threads if others didn't constantly make snarky remarks towards those waiting or not wishing to be vaccinated. 🙄
 
I participated in a "teleconference", hosted by our local US Representative a couple of weeks ago. One of the "participants" broached the "theory" that this Virus is a "global conspiracy" by the world governments to actively reduce global populations. He rambled on further that killing off millions of Seniors will keep Social Security from facing a financial crisis in coming years. Amazing!
 
I will not get vaccinated unless it becomes mandatory, and then reluctantly. I never even had a flu shot and seldom get sick. You don't know what you're being injected with. I did a questionnaire to determine my eligibility for free vaccine and it said I don't qualify. The only thing going for me in that sense is I am over 65, but conversely, have absolutely no symptoms and infrequent exposure to others.
 
MarciKS said:
What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death.
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There's a highly effective third option in monoclonal antibodies. I was given a vaccine waiver for work in LTC due to multiple autoimmune diseases and the history of autoimmune complications with mRNA (Covid vaccine type) delivered drugs. I qualify for early treatment with monoclonal antibodies due to those same health problems. Our long-term care residents had very good success in beating Covid with this treatment during our Christmas week outbreak.

Though our culture fosters a binary, 'bash the other side' (as evidenced by both POVs on this board), there is thankfully a viable third option that doesn't even require hospitalization.
 
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AnnieA said:
There's a highly effective third option in monoclonal antibodies. I was given a vaccine waiver due to multiple autoimmune diseases and the history of autoimmune complications with mRNA (Covid vaccine type) delivered drugs. I qualify for early treatment with monoclonal antibodies due to those same health problems. Our long-term care residents had very good success in beating Covid with this treatment during our recent outbreak.

Thankfully, though our culture fosters a binary, 'bash the other side' (as evidenced by both POVs on this board), there is thankfully a viable third option.
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that's good. my mom can't get hers either. what are monoclonal antibodies?
 
The two ladies who give me my news again asked if I was getting the vaccine. I again said yes. They launched into the same stuff about it not being tested enough and dead babies, yes it is made of dead babies. Shocking! After that, they went on to speculate whose skeleton it is walking around our area scaring everyone (them) and that they have put up a cross to try and keep it away from visiting their property. Doesn't a skeleton need muscles and tendons to walk around? No. This one hasn't any. Doesn't have a head either apparently. Oh well...
 
MarciKS said:
What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death. I had to choose between a possible reaction that could've been treated or not...or COVID. I chose the vaccine. I don't want to become another victim of COVID. If that makes me an experiment that can help others later on then so be it.

Personally I think all this tit for tat on this forum about vaxxers & non vaxxers...maskers & anti maskers seriously needs to stop. You make your bed...you lie in it with your decisions. I'm not mad...this is nothing personal against anyone here. Just sick of it. It's bad enough we have to deal with all this COVID crap...fighting on a forum and making snarky remarks to one another isn't going to help. I think everyone needs to take a frickin chill pill and go to their separate corners for a while and give each other a break. JMO
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We're over a year into this. That includes the first 3 months with no social distancing, no staying home & no masks - just gloom & doom news. Anyone who didn't get Covid by now is very unlikely to get it ever - whether the vaccine works or not.
 
Geezerette said:
People who choose to gamble on not getting ill by not availing themselves of preventive measures are betting that if they’re wrong, there will be folks ready and willing to take care of them. They may end up being WRONG about that. Personally I consider them to be parasites.
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You are seeking confidence in your decision by encouraging others to make the same decision you made. And you are trying to shame others into your decision. Funny how people who don't want the vaccine don't try to pressure others into not getting it.
 
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Sunny said:
Amen to what Marci just said. Enough already, Squatting Dog. Nearly everyone in this country with any common sense has either gotten the vaccine, or is eagerly looking forward to the time when they are eligible. (Even the Trumps got the vaccine, after they had the disease! I guess they don't want a return event.) It appears to be an amazing medical breakthrough; why keep fighting it? Especially, as Marci said, not getting it means running a risk of a horrible (and unnecessary) death, or severe health impairment?

On the one hand, we know we have a worldwide disease that has already killed millions. On the other hand, we have a vaccine that protects everyone who gets it. Admittedly, it's new, but it has been tested and proven safe. (Yes, some people are allergic, etc. but I'm talking about the other 99% of us.) Are we supposed to wait for the entire world population to be wiped out before we decide to give it a try? Which choice makes sense?

And even if the majority of people who get Covid do manage to survive, the business economy will not recover, the schools will not reopen, the masks will not come off, life will not return to anything like normal until we have gotten to herd immunity, thanks to mass vaccinations. So, what are you advocating, by "waiting for side effects to turn up?" Waiting and waiting just means this will go on forever, with many more unnecessary deaths.

Those who originally claimed that the disease was nothing to worry about, it's like the flu, it will be gone in a few months, turned out to be very, very wrong. For some reason, many of those same people are now falsely claiming that the vaccine is untested, unsafe, doesn't work, etc. They seem to be determined to fight against medical science, coming up with one bit of nonsense after another. And the sad thing is that some people believe them, costing them their lives.

Why are you continuing to beat a dead horse?
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Ah.....yes. "Everyone with any common sense is doing what I do." So.....if you don't copy me, you have no common sense & aren't as smart as I am.
Shaming others is your confidence builder & your way to feel better about yourself. All put-down artists possess this trait.
 
Geezerette said:
People who choose to gamble on not getting ill by not availing themselves of preventive measures are betting that if they’re wrong, there will be folks ready and willing to take care of them. They may end up being WRONG about that. Personally I consider them to be parasites.
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On the other side of that coin, what about people who gamble and get the shot and then have adverse reactions? Do you know consider them parasites also? SMH
 
squatting dog said:
On the other side of that coin, what about people who gamble and get the shot and then have adverse reactions? Do you know consider them parasites also? SMH
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i for one would not consider anything wrong with waiting.

i just wish everyone would stop bickering about it. it's not helping anyone or changing anything. it's just causing a lot of unpleasantness on the forum.
 

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