Revenge? A question.

[Gaer]

Don't we all have a responsibility to each other? Surely by dismissing bad behaviour and letting karma takes its course (hopefully), we are not doing the criminal any favours? This is why bad behaviour in children needs to be dealt with immediately; they need to be taught right from wrong, otherwise they will move on to more serious crime.

Yes, Good point. We were speaking of "revenge".

You are speaking now of teaching right from wrong. This is a different subject.
If you speak of the behavior of children, one with the knowledge that what the child is doing will cause harm,
Yes, You must tell him in a spirit of help, of love, of kindness and of love. If this is not given, the parents
(or adult) has not done his duty in the development of the child.
"Dealt with" should be teaching right from wrong without doing harm. I'm not advocating freedom to do as
the child wishes here. It's the parent's responsibility to advise and teach; show right action, stopping the child.

Let's say you lost your temper and beat a child every time he did incorrectly. Action and reaction are equal.
The child feels discord, cruelty, hatred. Multiply this disharmony. If everyone angered and beat their child,
(and the child feels this so much more than the adult) this influence of suffering and hate would affect the
entire world. (which it already has).

On the forum threads where people talk about their childhood, most, I'd say, have horrible stories of beatings,
and surroundings of hate, which stays with the person even into old age. All this goes into the atmosphere
and affects everything in the entire world!

 

[Happy Retiree]

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.

BS again if someone hurts a member of my family, who the heck cares if I'm honorable. I will get even.

 

[Rose65]

There is a favorite saying that revenge is a dish best served cold. IE. - unexpectedly and maybe when the person is least able to cope with this karma, if you will. I believe this is possible but what of those of us who react quickly to pain and someone doing us serious wrong? Some don't want to wait and I get it. Wouldn't you just like to lash out and maybe knock 'em out cold? What are your thoughts on this.

I retreat from nasty people because I believe they will get back what they dish out in due course. Just wait patiently.

 

[squatting dog]

 

[hollydolly]

 

[win231]

Seeking justice is often confused with seeking revenge. There is a big difference.

 

[Disgustedman]

 

[chic]

Seeking justice is often confused with seeking revenge. There is a big difference.

In a civilized society, justice is what we are offered in lieu of satisfaction.

 

[chic]

I'm confused. What do you mean by pain and serious wrong? Are you speaking of a physical attack?

Yes, I am speaking of physical injury done by one person to another.

 

[SeaBreeze]

Yes, I am speaking of physical injury done by one person to another.

Well, if I was being physically attacked, I would fight back in the moment to stop it. I wouldn't wait and plan revenge for the future. I am not in favor of 'revenge' as you describe it, unless it's something that can be dealt with in a court of law after the fact.

 

[Remy]

I don't believe in karma.

Have I been so angry I wanted to punch someone or let them know what they did to me as a child? Of course. But I'm not going to hit anyone and luckily that usually passes. People who harm others don't get it anyway. It's no use. Especially the personality disorders and enablers.

I don't think revenge works. I've wondered what is wrong with people, why we war with each other. Seems everyone has. I'd rather let people think they got me if it makes them feel so superior. The thing is, they didn't. They are just cowards that used their position and power (like in the workplace) to exact their meanness and control.

 

[Shalimar]

I am torn. The therapist in me eschews revenge, but the feral child within remembers there was no Justice for all those dead children. Should any of the monsters remain alive, and I hear of their whereabouts, I know which Shali would respond.

 

[charry]

 

[PeppermintPatty]

‘Tis why I bought a punching bag.

 

[David777]

With psychological behavioral issues including "revenge", black and white thinking has limits given common wisdom exceptions. It is true that what most understand revenge to be usually is counterproductive only worsening situations. A personal revenge story of teaching others a lesson will do...

Over two decades ago, 3 of us were summer backpacking into the High Sierra of Kings Canyon National Park. Over a couple days we camped at a most magnificent remote nameless lake in a rocky timberline canyon surrounded by dramatic snow dappled peaks. The lake has a good population of uncommon larger golden trout. Some others were also camped in that zone. A large group of urban men with their sons arrived and set up camp. They were part of a Boy Scout organization but on an unofficial self organized trip.

I like most backpackers, have long developed environmental values and am well read in what is policy and acceptable. A modest short trout spawning stream flows into the lake that at the time had fair numbers of active fish. Fish are blocked from advancing very far up the stream due to a ten foot or so high waterfall cascade with a plunge pool below.

In late afternoon, we walked over to that inlet stream plunge pool and found several boys about to wash using a container of detergent, cooking utensils, pots, and pans full of very greasy bacon like leftovers directly in the stream. The boys pointed to men maybe 100 feet away at their camp as to who directed them to do so. I calmly advised them to carry water then do so uphill well away from the stream and camp. Three men seeing we two talking to the confused kids, came over and angrily threatened us.

The next day both we and the other group were on our ways east over a difficult trail less pass near 12,000 feet with a small icy snowfield to cross and a known tricky route down a minor canyon on the east side. The urban group had asked others in the area how to cross the pass. As a long time photographer, I tend to rise at dawn and by sunrise we were on our way climbing east. The urban group noticed and soon had a few ready members of their party following us maybe a quarter mile behind that we obviously noticed and understood why. After climbing over 1000 feet to the pass, a few other groups were stuck there trying to figure out how to cross the ice. Over maybe 20 minutes, I pounded with granite rock some steps into the hard icy snowfield crossing then we and others began crossing. By time the following urban group reached the pass, we were well below in the mostly barren sand and rock canyon. Knowing the correct route through the tricky section a mile plus below, I hatched a revenge plan to teach them a lesson.

We 3 carrying heavy packs full of gear rambled down the route and could see the other spread out group following in the distance. At the tricky section that is not visible too far above, one must traverse turning out of the canyon over to an adjacent canyon just north lest below unseen, topographic map ignorant will descend considerable unpleasant steep boulder fields. At the tricky section, we quickly traversed on the route out to the canyon rim, where we could view below unseen in trees. We that had been pushing to keep ahead, needed to take a rest and snack break regardless. Over the next half hour, others in the large group arrived and maybe 200 feet below us in the canyon were bewildered as they no longer saw us below. However due to the terrain, they wouldn't be able to see us if we were below, so upon grouping, continued down the canyon as from that point it looked easiest haha. Well we 3 watched until they were maybe 300 feet below, ended our break, and came out into the open where the stream fouling group could see us above laughing down at them below.

 

[squatting dog]