Roe vs. Wade....again

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Aneeda72 said:
Does anyone think this new legislation is connected with the “browning of America?” As the white population decreases in the US this would be a way a sneaky backdoor way to increase it. Just curious.
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Anything is possible but I think it has more to do with religious nutcases trying to force their religious beliefs on the country in general. A simpler solution would be to encourage education regarding birth control along with easy access and affordable birth control methods. but the anti-abortion folks don't want this either??
 

And then there's the irony of the "right to lifers" murdering clinic staff and doctors. :rolleyes: They should be busy adopting and raising those unwanted children.
 

DaveA said:
Anything is possible but I think it has more to do with religious nutcases trying to force their religious beliefs on the country in general. A simpler solution would be to encourage education regarding birth control along with easy access and affordable birth control methods. but the anti-abortion folks don't want this either??
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[h=1]“Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth, and you should save it for someone you love.”[/h]
― Butch Hancock​
 
And now Missouri is about to pass an eight week bill, ie no abortions after eight weeks of pregnancy.
 
Butterfly said:
That seems very intrusive, oppressive and insulting to me. A child born within 9 months from his death would have been assumed to be legally his here in NM. If there was any question, DNA would have solved the matter.
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I guess 43yrs ago that was the rule where we lived. I don't know if that has changed now,but that's the way it was in 1976.
 
Well, I think that if states are going to pass such drastic laws, then they should be required by law to DNA test all males the mother identifies as the possible father and then garnish the father's wages for 18 years for child support; if he doesn't have a job, make him get one, or make him work picking up litter or something to earn the money for the support of the child.

I think the reasons males are so eager to pass laws like this are (1) they want to control women, and (2) it's easy for a father of a child to just shrug his shoulders and walk away from the responsibility for a child he fathers, whereas the woman can be stuck supporting the child on her own and/or with taxpayer money until the child grows up. "No skin off my nose" says the father as he rides off into the sunset.
 
MannyGT said:
I agree, but one must understand that morality is an important bases for the support of religion.
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I don't agree. The basis of religion is control of "the masses". Always has been. "Morality" in that case is only what helps them do that. Atheist societies know that and is why they need to outlaw them. Example was the Soviet Union. There can only be one God, which is the State. And, guess what? THE STATE and much of the little states work on that premise. And it does happen to be males, because they resent women. Underneath it all, that's what it's all about.
 
Butterfly said:
Well, I think that if states are going to pass such drastic laws, then they should be required by law to DNA test all males the mother identifies as the possible father and then garnish the father's wages for 18 years for child support; if he doesn't have a job, make him get one, or make him work picking up litter or something to earn the money for the support of the child..
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AMEN!! I'm with you 110% on this. Everyone talks about the women involved, but no one mentions the so-called "father". An increasingly number of children are being born to unwed mothers....in some ethnic groups, that percentage is approaching 70%. Many of those kids will grow up never knowing who their father really is, and quite often, they grow up on the "streets", and become the next generations criminals, and welfare recipients. Unwed mothers should be Required to say who the father is, and that male should be required to support the child. If the "sperm donor" refuses to accept responsibility, he should be given a free Vasectomy....If these fools want to behave like rabbits, society should Not have to contend with the results of their animal behavior.
 
Trade said:
“Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth, and you should save it for someone you love.”


― Butch Hancock​
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LOL..that is a funny quote...I noticed that Butch's last name is HANCOCK. :lofl:
 
Olivia said:
I don't agree. The basis of religion is control of "the masses".
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There are many reasons why one takes up religion, control is simply one of them.


Example was the Soviet Union. There can only be one God, which is the State. And, guess what? THE STATE and much of the little states work on that premise. And
it does happen to be males, because they resent women. Underneath it all, that's what it's all about.
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Soviet policy toward religion was based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which made atheism the official doctrine of the Communist Party. However; the Soviet law
and administrative practices extended some tolerance to religion and forbade the arbitrary closing or destruction of some functioning churches. As the founder of the
Soviet state, Lenin, put it: Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern
religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class.
 
C'est Moi said:
Ugh. That reminds me of back in the '80s when I went into the hospital to have my tubes tied having had all the kids we wanted. They would not operate until my husband signed the PERMISSION page. I was madder than eff and spewed plenty of expletives in that hospital. Of course, my husband signed, but still... what the actual hell?? I am no one's property, and that wasn't so long ago. It still steams my oats to think of that.
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HUh?.... what would have happened if you didn't have a husband?.. :confused:
 
Pepper said:
Payback for the importation of slave labor throughout the Americas. The meek shall inherit the earth.
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Oh what a crock. I don't understand why anyone believes that the descendants of those who did things that were later deemed to be morally reprehensible should in any way be held accountable for wrongs that happened centuries ago. If you travel far enough back in history, I'm sure that ALL our ancestors were slaves, serfs, indentured, blah, blah.
 

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