Safe & Effective: A Second Opinion

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amwassil

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Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion shines a light on Covid-19 vaccine injuries and bereavements, but also takes an encompassing look at the systemic failings that appear to have enabled them. We look at leading analysis of pharmaceutical trials, the role of the MHRA in regulating these products, the role of the SAGE behavioural scientists in influencing policy and the role of the media and Big Tech companies in supressing free and open debate on the subject
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https://www.oraclefilms.com/safeandeffective
 

Here it is October 2022, and new revelations about the vaccine, and the boosters are slowly coming out. There will probably be more.

Scary stuff, and it could explain what our country is facing now ..
We get this:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/c...ersonality-in-young-adults-study-9249771.html


Just the young with personality changes from the vaccine ?? ... I don't think so!
I've wondered for a while about some older people who act/speak differently now.

Vaccines in the past didn't do this kind of damage to people.
 
Bonnie said:
Here it is October 2022, and new revelations about the vaccine, and the boosters are slowly coming out. There will probably be more.

Scary stuff, and it could explain what our country is facing now ..
We get this:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/c...ersonality-in-young-adults-study-9249771.html


Just the young with personality changes from the vaccine ?? ... I don't think so!
I've wondered for a while about some older people who act/speak differently now.

Vaccines in the past didn't do this kind of damage to people.
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Only 7,109 people were in the study. I'm not putting any stock in this.
 

Bonnie said:
Here it is October 2022, and new revelations about the vaccine, and the boosters are slowly coming out. There will probably be more.

Scary stuff, and it could explain what our country is facing now ..
We get this:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/c...ersonality-in-young-adults-study-9249771.html


Just the young with personality changes from the vaccine ?? ... I don't think so!
I've wondered for a while about some older people who act/speak differently now.

Vaccines in the past didn't do this kind of damage to people.
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The Florida State University College of Medicine study doesn't blame the vaccine for the personality changes in young people; it blames the pandemic. In fact, the article doesn't even mention the vaccine.
 
The initial video above is based on UK government data and the sources are identified and can be verified.

Here's a report based on US CDC data. It took 2 lawsuits and a year and a half to get CDC to release this data. Wonder why so?

https://www.icandecide.org/v-safe/

PS: @RadishRose The V-Safe data is based on 10 million individual records/participants.
 
The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) is one of the main anti-vaccination groups in the United States. Founded in 2016 by Del Bigtree, it spreads misinformation about the risks of vaccines and contributes to vaccine hesitancy,[1][2][3] which has been identified by the World Health Organization as one of the top ten global health threats of 2019.[4][5] Arguments against vaccination are contradicted by overwhelming scientific consensus about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.[6][7][8][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_Consent_Action_Network
 
Look at the data. The UK data is from the NHS and the US from CDC. Neither one of those institutions is 'anti-vax'. Neither of them is 'anti-needle freaks'. All-Cause mortality has increased dramatically directly in line with injection rates in multiple countries. Those deaths will be investigated to determine if there is a cause/effect relation with injection rates. It is already known that the more injections you get the greater your probability of being infected, getting more seriously ill, hospitalized and dying than if you had not been injected at all. If you subjected yourself to 2-3 initial injections and a couple more boosters, I can understand you don't want to hear about adverse effects or your personal risk from doing so. And I sincerely hope you remain well and safe. But pooh poohing the data is useless.
 
amwassil said:
Look at the data. The UK data is from the NHS and the US from CDC. Neither one of those institutions is 'anti-vax'. Neither of them is 'anti-needle freaks'. All-Cause mortality has increased dramatically directly in line with injection rates in multiple countries. Those deaths will be investigated to determine if there is a cause/effect relation with injection rates. It is already known that the more injections you get the greater your probability of being infected, getting more seriously ill, hospitalized and dying than if you had not been injected at all. If you subjected yourself to 2-3 initial injections and a couple more boosters, I can understand you don't want to hear about adverse effects or your personal risk from doing so. And I sincerely hope you remain well and safe. But pooh poohing the data is useless.
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Sure, could you provide a link to the data? Not ICAN's interpretation of the data but the data itself.
 
chic said:
If we cannot claim sovereignty over our own bodies, we have no freedom left.
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Hmmm. Did I say you should be required to take the vaccine? No I did not! But I hope you don’t become one of the many reported to have begged for the vaccine while laying on their death bed, or worse yet, give the disease to some unvaccinated child.
 
amwassil said:
Both videos I've linked contain the data sources.
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So you haven't looked at the actual data. You just trust the video, which was made by an organization that has no credibility, whatsoever. They exist to make videos promoting conspiracy theories and profit from spreading misinformation.

Proof that they have no credibility: They claim that the pandemic is a hoax and that the shots are dangerous. They only have four employees. Yet they received $120,000 in PPP loans from the government, which they didn't have to pay back. Why would they need to cover their payroll if the pandemic is a hoax? They'd be able to work as usual.

Sounds like they scammed the government (us) out of $120k.
 
ElCastor said:
Hmmm. Did I say you should be required to take the vaccine? No I did not! But I hope you don’t become one of the many reported to have begged for the vaccine while laying on their death bed, or worse yet, give the disease to some unvaccinated child.
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Yup. You did. Just take the vaccine and the boosters! No thank you. I will decide for myself what goes into my body.
 
There are still a few diehards left on this forum who are fighting against a highly effective and safe vaccine, and will continue to do so with their last breath. Some have a phobia of getting any kind of shots. Some are paranoid, and think there's some big conspiracy out to get them. Some bought into the wrong side of things when this was equated with a political issue, and are too stubborn or embarrassed to admit that they were taken in. Maybe some have religious objections to modern medicine and science, though I haven't seen too much of that on this forum. And some just love to argue.

The vaccine obviously works, amazingly well, and is close to 100% safe. For those who still want to shut their eyes and cover their ears, so they don't have to hear that, it is certainly their right to join the small, suicidal group who are happy with unnecessarily risking their own lives, and those around them.

Incredible that this discussion is still going on here!
 
amwassil said:
https://www.oraclefilms.com/safeandeffective
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This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risk florida 10/7/22
 
Sunny said:
There are still a few diehards left on this forum who are fighting against a highly effective and safe vaccine, and will continue to do so with their last breath. Some have a phobia of getting any kind of shots. Some are paranoid, and think there's some big conspiracy out to get them. Some bought into the wrong side of things when this was equated with a political issue, and are too stubborn or embarrassed to admit that they were taken in. Maybe some have religious objections to modern medicine and science, though I haven't seen too much of that on this forum. And some just love to argue.

The vaccine obviously works, amazingly well, and is close to 100% safe. For those who still want to shut their eyes and cover their ears, so they don't have to hear that, it is certainly their right to join the small, suicidal group who are happy with unnecessarily risking their own lives, and those around them.

Incredible that this discussion is still going on here!
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As we've seen so often, you seek confidence in your decision to be vaccinated by trying to convince others to do the same.
And you ridicule those who don't do as you do because they shake your confidence - which was already shaky to begin with.
 
boliverchadsworth said:
This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risk florida 10/7/22
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That's a quote from Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Ladapo had promoted unproven treatments — hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin —, questioned the safety of vaccines, opposed lockdown mandates, and associated with America's Frontline Doctors, a far-right group known for promoting falsehoods about the pandemic.[8][9][10][19] In a March 24, 2020, opinion column in USA Today, Ladapo argued against lockdowns deriving from his experience in treating COVID-19 patients at UCLA, an assertion he repeated in a later column published by the Wall Street Journal.[20] However, UCLA staff scheduling roster did not have him assigned to treat COVID patients, and several of his colleagues rejected that he had treated any COVID-19 patient at UCLA ever.[20][21]​
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With passage of time, he became a vocal supporter of Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis' COVID-19 policies that ran against mainstream medical consensus.[22][19] On September 21, 2021, he was appointed to be the Surgeon General of the state, replacing Scott Rivkees, pending confirmation by the State Senate. Simultaneously, he was also appointed an associate professor at University of Florida Health in a fast-tracked hiring process, initiated after the Board of Trustees chair — a DeSantis advisor — had sent his resume to the UF Health president.[6] Faculties have since alleged that university administrators downplayed information about Ladapo's controversial views on COVID-19 before the vote on his tenure.[23]​

You can trust government propaganda or you can trust scientists who overwhelmingly recommend getting vaccinated.
 
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boliverchadsworth said:
This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risk florida 10/7/22
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Oracle Films is a Brit religious film company (huh?) -- not the usual authority on the efficacy of vaccines. Here is what the National Health Service (NHS) a recognized British authority has to say on the subject ...
"The coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines are safe and effective. They give you the best protection against COVID-19."
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/

I received my 3rd booster two days ago and my side effect? A sore arm for a few hours. If you are one of those who refuse to be vaccinated, believing the vaccine will kill you or some such nonsense, and are laying on your COVID death bed, please don't bother begging for the vaccine, as many have, it's too late.
 
amwassil said:
Look at the data. The UK data is from the NHS and the US from CDC. Neither one of those institutions is 'anti-vax'. Neither of them is 'anti-needle freaks'. All-Cause mortality has increased dramatically directly in line with injection rates in multiple countries. Those deaths will be investigated to determine if there is a cause/effect relation with injection rates. It is already known that the more injections you get the greater your probability of being infected, getting more seriously ill, hospitalized and dying than if you had not been injected at all. If you subjected yourself to 2-3 initial injections and a couple more boosters, I can understand you don't want to hear about adverse effects or your personal risk from doing so. And I sincerely hope you remain well and safe. But pooh poohing the data is useless.
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It's probably from COVID itself, and long COVID. The effects of COVID can linger in the body even after the person stops testing positive. It weakens the person's over all health. Anyone who got the vaccine could have had COVID before the vaccine or still got a milder form after the vaccine. You can't attribute any data for sure to the vaccine when just about everyone has had COVID at some point.
 


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